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Spider-Man General Discussion

Lizard only appears in the 3rd game. He was planned to have a larger part in the SM2 game with a giant sewer system included, but that was scrapped
Ah, must have misread that.

Question, know of any way to calculate the force to push that S-02 that far back? It just looks impressive.
 
I previously tried calculating the Slayers volume by calculating it's different shapes and whatnot, although now i realize it would be easier to just take the weight of a ladybug and upscale it
 
I previously tried calculating the Slayers volume by calculating it's different shapes and whatnot, although now i realize it would be easier to just take the weight of a ladybug and upscale it
Is that what the Spider Hunter's are based off of? I know the S-01 is a crab/whatever, and the s-02 is a worm/snake, but that's just funny to think the Hunters are based on ladybugs.
 
Tbh that only looks 9-A, since it looks like he sent only it's head flying and not the whole body
Ok so there's about 9-10 segments of the S-02 that are shown on the side Peter is fighting on the building. From the push, it seems like most if not all of these segments are pushed backwards, along with the head. If you're able to use that S-02 size calculation, maybe you could find the weight and size that Spidey had to kick to figure out the AP?
 
When he returned as a silent serial killer tying up loose ends and going after people targeting his hospitalized son. He'd lost much of his sanity and his ability to talk, so he gave a letter of his to Spidey for his son (though the letter was written in spots).

He left the scene, never to be seen again.

...Until his next appearance where he was a very different character (I don't expect many characters these days to be handled well anyway).
 
My only experience of Spot comes from the animated series
it's honestly incredible how many obscure characters that series had
 
It's the D-Lister grindset to never have any development stick.
Unfortunately, though I'd say that only really started being problematic in the 90s.

Characters like Grizzly who had this hype of being tougher than the Rhino were suddenly pathetic by that point, but before that whenever they showed up the writers treated them with some modicum of respect.

My only experience of Spot comes from the animated series
it's honestly incredible how many obscure characters that series had
Is it? Considering it set out to be a love-letter to the Ditko-Lee-Romita era I'd say it's to be expected
I don't think Spot was particularly obscure if you weren't too deep into the Spidey comics. Mind-Worm is obscure, not so much Spot. Characters who made only one or two appearances (like Fusion/Twin Terror) are definitely obscure, but TAS definitely made sure people didn't forget about him and his incredible powers, the Time Dilation Accelerator becomes a huuuge plot device throughout the series, especially in Turning Point and in Spider-Wars.
 
Unfortunately, though I'd say that only really started being problematic in the 90s.
Meh not really, 80s also just invented shit on the fly to service their own plot, only 70s were kinda consistent with the characterization.

This is also ignoring 60s which retconned Golden Age so much it's not even the same verse.
Characters like Grizzly who had this hype of being tougher than the Rhino were suddenly pathetic by that point, but before that whenever they showed up the writers treated them with some modicum of respect
Nah, Grizzly was a loser by the fourth appearance by the 80s, where Spidey had to pretend he lost to him, to cope.
 
Meh not really, 80s also just invented shit
They developed upon previous concepts but they (almost) never retconned things on characters that were before, at least for Spider-Man. It was definitely far more prominent in the 90s and following years.

This is also ignoring 60s which retconned Golden Age so much it's not even the same verse.
tbf I think that was done moreso to benefit the story rather than retconning for retconning's sake (or because writers didn't want to go back and read all those Golden Age comics, I can get that especially back then it was pretty difficult, assuming Timely or Atlas still owned any copies of those 40s comics). The characters were still more or less the same personality wise (especially with stuff like Cap's return, considering Kirby co-created him and also drew his return in the Silver Age).

Nah, Grizzly was a loser by the fourth appearance by the 80s
That is very different from being seen as a joke, that story still took him seriously and Pete says as much. Granted, Spidey was also going easy on him, which doesn't make much sense since Grizzly's suit presumably got a boost, but I guess I could let that slide with Spidey just getting better all the time. That story also ends on a nice note, almost everything after that with Grizzly has been very comedic.

That was also December 1989 so I'll take it as 90s :p
 
They developed upon previous concepts but they (almost) never retconned things on characters that were before, at least for Spider-Man. It was definitely far more prominent in the 90s and following years.
Mmm not really? Kraven immensely got reworked from the kinda cheap **** with ego to being a hyper-capable and honorable hunter, and Sandman got ALOT of character shifts from being a dumb brute to a punch-clock villain.

And yeah if you not isolate to exclusively Spidey sphere, you have Iron Man villains with drastically different personalities every appearance, X-Men characters that went through complete revamps of their personalities under Clairemont, Strange and Captain Marvel who were getting whiplashed every few years due to their comics not selling, and Daredevil, good God, don't make me start on Daredevil going from "I'll have her back by 6 pm" to "She calls me Dare-Daddy too"
tbf I think that was done moreso to benefit the story rather than retconning for retconning's sake (or because writers didn't want to go back and read all those Golden Age comics, I can get that especially back then it was pretty difficult, assuming Timely or Atlas still owned any copies of those 40s comics). The characters were still more or less the same personality wise (especially with stuff like Cap's return, considering Kirby co-created him and also drew his return in the Silver Age).
I mean the writers ALSO WROTE the Golden Age comics, and also it's not like present-day writers retcon for retconning's sake, they're doing it in benefit of their story and not wanting to read all thr silver age/bronze age comics, literally equivalent logic.

Also no lmao, Golden Age Namor is a different beast, he's written like a kaiju more than any superhero (which imo is a lot more cooler than the whiney brat he is usually)
That is very different from being seen as a joke, that story still took him seriously and Pete says as much. Granted, Spidey was also going easy on him, which doesn't make much sense since Grizzly's suit presumably got a boost, but I guess I could let that slide with Spidey just getting better all the time. That story also ends on a nice note, almost everything after that with Grizzly has been very comedic.
Meh I mean I'd argue even his appearances in 90s and modern day tend to have him get a nice ending. Dude is basically a reformed superhero modern-day.
That was also December 1989 so I'll take it as 90s :p
bad, comics 90s began mid-90s anyways uwu
 
When he returned as a silent serial killer tying up loose ends and going after people targeting his hospitalized son. He'd lost much of his sanity and his ability to talk, so he gave a letter of his to Spidey for his son (though the letter was written in spots).

He left the scene, never to be seen again.

...Until his next appearance where he was a very different character (I don't expect many characters these days to be handled well anyway).
Spot’s best appearances have always been great. His powerset is legitimately creative and effective. I have confidence in the writer’s for SV here
 
Tbh I can’t think of a lot of Marvel characters with a Rogues Gallery comparable in quality to Spider-Man. Not shading the other villains, but Peter has had a lot of interesting opponents
 
My favorite comic trope is when they bring back E-lister villains only to kill them in tragic ways

Examples being Mindworm and that dude in the ape costume
 
And about the Raimi games profiles, should we split them into seperate profiles?
 
Naw they'd all be one profile
Are there any good feats to calc from da games? I know Kingpin has a good one but are there any other ones?
 
Naw they'd all be one profile
Are there any good feats to calc from da games? I know Kingpin has a good one but are there any other ones?
I'd kind of prefer a separate profile tbh?

The live action Spider-Men get s many misconceptions at this point, I feel like adding game stuff would muddy the waters more
 
But then again, aren't the games technically canon to each other when you think of it in the canon story?
 
Should we also include the feats from the GBA games? Or only the console ones?
 
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