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RoF?plus I was talking about RoF
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RoF?plus I was talking about RoF
The fact that even Eggman helps Sonic more than Vegeta helps Goku is really saying something (and don't mention Vegito or Gogeta since Goku basically have to play the card of "either we do that or everyone dies")Vegeta literally didn't fight Freeza together with Goku, in fact they never fight together
Revival/Resurrection of FriezaRoF?
Plus you are using an example of when he didn't have his memories yet using it as a point when he has them?
Comander Tower isn't Eggman, Shadow didn't knew him plus he wasn't lying
No? Shadow has 4 stages, in the Radical Highway he already had his goal (the emerald), in White Jungle ditto, he already had set the explosives, in Sky Rail his goal was just to follow the tornado, and in Final Chase it was to get to Sonic, your point is only valid to the latter
He has his equipment, but that doesn't mean he has prep time, simply that he just has them
one he followed Eggman flying, something he wouldn't do,
2 because of his compassion, by telling him he wouldn't be bad,
with someone he knows inside out versus a black hedgehog that tricked him in his first appearence
He doesn't see Colors as a major threat, correct, and he was correctAlso, on that note, Shadow wanted to work with Sonic to defeat the Biolizard but not against Eggman in Sonic Colors. Current Shadow, from Sonic Battle, has all the memories from SA2. Shadow does not see Eggman as a major threat.
Ressurection of FRoF?
Yeah, because if doesn't work when he is easily influenced it isn't working nowMe using? I used the Maria Card and you the time when Shadow didn't have his memories as evidence the Maria/Gerald card wouldn't work
He literally lied about him being an android, something you agreedHow often has Eggman ever lied to Shadow? None at all?Tower is an Archie name, not Game canon name
No, I am saying Shadow is focusing on his goalsSo... what are you using in this example? Sonic's goal is always running to the end of the stage. Are you claiming every Sonic game, Sonic doesn't fight a single enemy?
He already built them, we treat as if he never lost themHe had to have built them and know the machines he'll be using for a vs match
Sonic isn't Shadow, and even then Chaos Blast would wipe them out in one shotAgain, Eggman's army would slow him down like Super Sonic. Sonic's goal is always reaching the end of the stage in every game, yet Sonic Unleashed cutscene has him taking out ships while chasing Eggman, proving attacking Robots while going through stages isn't game mechanics.
Yes, why would he care about Eggman when he killed his entire ******* race my man?Yes, because Shadow has no compassion for anyone, including his last living relative (Sarcasm)
Yet in the same game Shadow can literally kill him in all endings, you are overhyping Eggman into an almost fanfiction version of him, while ignoring that for Shadow, basically you are highballing him but lowballing the hedgehogEggman knows better due to doing research like making the Shadow Androids. ... Shadow? Not enough evidence of what Shadow knows better about Eggman. Also, Eggman has a lot more data on Shadow since SA2
You shouldn't remove the votes, they are still valid, we went through this in other threads, someone having an different opinion is not enough to make votes invalid, unless he can bring something that is objectively correct that debunks my reasoning, they shouldn't be removed, and he hasn'tWell, I'll hold off the votes for now.
I'll remove all of them for now. When you two can summerize the arguments for Shadow and Eggman clearly, then please post them here
this has wasted enough of my time
different opinion
Hm....................................... . ... rude
Those votes were opinions that first came into the thread were not supported by any facts. I've actually taken the time to support my "different opinion" through canon material
That's just the problem of the FRA system, but I can't be a hypocrite because of what I said in other threads
like arguing a character wins via an ability they don't have for example
Shadow's won game tends to differ, he tries to manipulate him into being his android so he can follow himo game has Shadow with interactions or knowledge that Dr. Eggman likes taking advantage of any trust place on him
Shadow's won game tends to differ, he tries to manipulate him into being his android so he can follow him
still don't buy Shadow getting trapped by the CEC since all he needs to do to get out of it is Chaos Control
stop time while the machine is activating
since it's an objective fact he spams Chaos Contol unlike Sonic.
Pulling the Maria/Gerald card at best would only distract him for a few seconds
even then just seeing Eggman activating the button should snap him out of it and get him to focus.
heck Shadow may get pissed that he brings up the Maria/Gerald card since they were good people who strived to help while Eggman is being Eggman and pretty much spitting on their wishes.
he learned from his mistakes and told Mephiles to **** off when he tried the same.
Also, this assumes Shadow can't manipulate Eggman himself, in SA2 he tricked him to get the Chaos Emerald and then end up destroying the world while making Eggman believe he would conquer him(Elixir: What? Don't you mean "believed Shadow was working for him", not conquer?)
Ok stop acting like Sonic and Shadow would do the same thing in the exact same situation
the two act and use their powers differently.
And no, Sonic didn't use the Chaos Control to escape because he rarely uses it
Normally yes, but since the sides are still arguing for the reasons between Shadow and Eggman, I decided to not conclude the match just yetGrace is over I’m pretty sure right?
Hey, I just want the bracket to continue(Could call this a stomp based on the wincons everyone voted for but...)