Sonic vs Kirby

[Coolboy6]

Is This thread a stomp anymore? Idk, sonic’s 4-A key did get upgraded though
Both 4-A, speed equalized
Blue hedgehog:

Pink puffball:

sonic’s AP: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>465 exafoe

Kirby’s AP: borderline 3-C

this may or may not be a stomp

 

[ShakeResounding]

Whoa whoa whoa, you reversed the > sign there bucko. They upscale from it heavily like that, not downscale

 

[Coolboy6]

Whoops my mistake

 

[ShakeResounding]

I'd say hold off on this match, though. Kirby's AP is currently going through revisions iirc

 

[sanicspood]

what does kirby start with?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

There’s a slight Kirby AP upgrade going on right now

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

If Kirby is going through an AP revision, then it's best to close the match until it's over

 

[The_Pink_God]

There’s a slight Kirby AP upgrade going on right now

That... Literally won't change absolutely anything about Kirby current AP

 

[The_Pink_God]

Is This thread

The link doesn't work

 

[The_Pink_God]

Btw the way this is still a stomp AFAIK
Kirby still ridiculously high into 4-A enough to one-shot Sonic, he still has High-Mid and Low-Godly regen and still resists all Sonic's haxes

 

[DragonLord]

Btw the way this is still a stomp AFAIK
Kirby still ridiculously high into 4-A enough to one-shot Sonic, he still has High-Mid and Low-Godly regen and still resists all Sonic's haxes

Don’t think Kirby resists Sonic’s Time Stop actually considering it has resistance negation

 

[The_Pink_God]

Is it in character?

 

[DragonLord]

Is it in character?

he’s used Time Abilities quite a few times, like 06 and Generations have there own time related abilities he uses, so I guess maybe after slugging it out for a bit

 

[DragonLord]

Does Kirby have an option out of BFR?, the Chaos Emeralds can send people to different worlds

 

[The_Pink_God]

Does Kirby have an option out of BFR?, the Chaos Emeralds can send people to different worlds

Warp Star has Dimensional Travel so yes he has

 

[sanicspood]

leaning towards kirby for now

 

[DragonLord]

Warp Star has Dimensional Travel so yes he has

Hm, should be on Kirby’s profile then since I couldn’t find it

would it work if Sonic sent Kirby outside Space and Time?, that’s another thing Chaos Control can do, Sonic also has Durability Negation with the One Hit Kill Move in Sonic Battle

 

[The_Pink_God]

what does Kirby start with?

Friend Heart of which sonic doesn't resist

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Friend Heart of which sonic doesn't resist

How does Friend Heart works?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Btw the way this is still a stomp AFAIK
Kirby still ridiculously high into 4-A enough to one-shot Sonic, he still has High-Mid and Low-Godly regen and still resists all Sonic's haxes

Sonic's durability >>>>> Sonic's AP (as he no selled attacks from Metal Overlord, who no selled attacks from 3 Super forms and could only be damaged by their combined blast) >>>>>>> Final Egg Blaster (The Chaos Emerald's power was described as "unimaginable" by Eggman, who can create machines like the FEB) = 465 ExaFoe

How high Kirby scales into 4-A? Like I would like to get the numbers please

 

[sanicspood]

nigh galaxy level ig

so he’d one shot even if sonic massively up scales from 400 exafoe tbh

 

[The_Pink_God]

How do Friend Heart works?

Kirby throws a Friend Heart and when it lands in someone they become Kirbys friend

Hm, should be on Kirby’s profile then since I couldn’t find it

The Warp Star has Dimensional Travel, not Kirby, but Kirby can summon the warp star at any time so eh

would it work if Sonic sent Kirby outside Space and Time?

Probably not

that’s another thing Chaos Control can do, Sonic also has Durability Negation with the One-Hit Kill Move in Sonic Battle

The question remains, is it in character? Cuz, if it isn't Kirby, would just one-shot right off the bat even if the Friend Hearts don't work

How high Kirby scales into 4-A? Like I would like to get the numbers, please

Can't really give a number as he's "Borderline 3-C" but at the very least he's 16 times one starry sky multiplied by 100 to 1000, which gives him a borderline 3-C rating

 

[DragonLord]

The question remains, is it in character? Cuz, if it isn't Kirby, would just one-shot right off the bat even if the Friend Hearts don't work

he Uses the move all the way through Sonic Battle, it’s basically the Super Move or “Final Smash” of the game

Probably not

any reason why not?

 

[The_Pink_God]

he Uses the move through Sonic Battle, it’s the Super Move or “Final Smash” of the game

Well if he uses the move first I can see it, OHK'ing Kirby, but there's still Kirby High-Mid and Low Godly regen, can sonic somehow bypass that?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Kirby throws a Friend Heart and when it lands in someone they become Kirbys friend

What stops Sonic from dodging that or just flicking it away with his Passive Forcefield?

Super Sonic boost would also deflect it away from him

The Warp Star has Dimensional Travel, not Kirby, but Kirby can summon the warp star at any time so eh

What's the range of Kirby's Dimensional Travel?

Can't really give a number as he's "Borderline 3-C" but at the very least he's 16 times one starry sky multiplied by 100 to 1000, which gives him a borderline 3-C rating

1600 times Starry Sky AP is just flat 3-C, and 16,000 times is even higher into the tier

I would also like to hear the reasonings and explainations for that

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Well if he uses the move first I can see it, OHK'ing Kirby, but there's still Kirby High-Mid and Low Godly regen, can sonic somehow bypass that?

Yes. BFR-ing him with a Chaos Control to a Special Stage, that is 2-C in range, or seal him with either the Chaos Emeralds or the Magic Hands

 

[The_Pink_God]

What stops Sonic from dodging that or just flicking it away with his Passive Forcefield?

Super Sonic boost would also deflect it away from him

First, that is a Homing Attack but yeah passive Forcefield would stop the attack

What's the range of Kirby's Dimensional Travel?

Low Multiversal

1600 times Starry Sky AP is just flat 3-C, and 16,000 times is even higher into the tier

I would also like to hear the reasonings and explanations for that

Basically, 1 Jamba Heart scales to Magolor feat which is 16 starry skies, VT is made of hundreds if not thousands of those, then there's this chain scaling

Whispy Woods (At least when powered by a Jamba Heart piece as he can take hits from a Friend Star, which is created by 4 Star Allies whereas a Warp Star can just be made by Kirby. The later 2 amps 2 different Jamba Heart pieces gave were portrayed as something even one of them could do, so they should all be each as strong)<King Dedede (Powered by a Jamba Heart, fought longer when its power visually manifested than what he could without it. The Jamba Heart also made him grow in size & musculature)<Meta Knight (Powered by a Jamba Heart, same case as with DDD except he could duplicate and use TK instead of growing in size & musculature)<Pon & Con<Francisca<Flamberge<Zan Partizanne<Whispy Woods (This is another Whispy Woods, they're a race. A Jamba Heart is in front of him before its fights and this will keep happening with future bosses; with Kracko we specifically got text saying that something about his energy was different and that the Star Allies had to stay on their guard, so this should likely imply that all those bosses got corrupted by a Jamba Heart, and maybe amped by it too. This Whispy Woods can just be as strong as the other one shown though<Yggy Woods (Fought right after the other boss, should be at least stroger than it and maybe even stronger than Zan Partizanne on her first fight)<Goldon & Silvox<Grand Mam<Francisca (Second fight. Said to be "tougher than ever before")<Kracko<Flamberge (Second fight)<Zan Partizanne (Second fight)<Hyness (Weaker than Zan Partizanne in-gameplay, he tossed her while she was already defeated but still able to take attacks from the Star Allies. He's most likely weaker to an unknown extent, and still able to take hits and harm the Star Allies)<Hyness with the energy from the Three Mage-Sisters [Francisca, Flamberge & Zan Partizanne] absorbed (Now he's a much more notable boss than even Zan Partizanne)<Void Termina (Devil form. Is composed of the combined energy/condensed power of from most Jamba Heart pieces [like 75% of the full Jamba Heart], Hyness, and the Three Mage-Sisters [Francisca, Flamberge & Zan Partizanne], all of which were merged, which completed the Jamba Heart [So nevermind how the Jamba Heart wasn't complete before]. This now full Jamba Heart turned into Void Termina, the important parts to note his power being that 1. The complete Jamba Heart is made of several dozens or even hundreds of Jamba Heart pieces, and 2. Again, each Jamba Heart piece scales to what the ones that powered Dedede and Meta Knight could do)<Void Termina (First Core form. May be his second phase but he's just being fought from the inside, he could just be comparable to his other form. Alternatively, since it's his core it may use power more easily)<Void Termina (Angel form)<Void Termina (Final Core form. In his Devil and Angel forms he creates things in a very specific manner that disappear in the same way, but it turns out those forms were in turn created by him in his Final Core form)

And that's gives the Borderline 3-C rating

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Low Multiversal

How high into 2-C?

Sonic's BFR is Hundreds of Universes

 

[DragonLord]

Super Sonic matches often do involve a lot of Dodging on Sonic’s side with projectiles and physical Attacks and such and Kirby is like 8 Inches Tall, even with Speed Equal I think it would be likely Sonic would stay in the match for a long time with his dodging skills and extra skills like Flying and Teleporting to point out a weakness or tactic

 

[sanicspood]

idk why were talking bout hax when sonic never starts with them.

 

[The_Pink_God]

How high into 2-C?

Sonic's BFR is Hundreds of Universes

Just a few dozens

 

[The_Pink_God]

IDK why we're talking bout hax when sonic never starts with them.

That's true, he just starts my head bumping his opponents tbh

 

[DragonLord]

That's true, he just starts my head bumping his opponents tbh

I mean, not always, he pacified Chaos with his Emphatic Manipulation, he’s Reflected Attacks many times, he usually has a passive forcefield, a lot of his boss fights in fact do have Sonic wait out for opening, he used Chaos Control to stop the Arc, he pointed out the specific attacks needed to break down Solaris’es core

if Sonic lives out the match I’d think he’d start using Hax

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Just a few dozens

So he isn't escaping for this since the Warp Star lacks the range to bring him back

 

[The_Pink_God]

I mean, not always, he pacified Chaos with his Emphatic Manipulation, he’s Reflected Attacks many times, he usually has a passive forcefield, a lot of his boss fights do have Sonic wait out for the opening

if Sonic lives out the match I’d think he’d start using Hax

Keyword: if
cuz if not hell just get one-shotted

 

[The_Pink_God]

So he isn't escaping for this since the Warp Star lacks the range to bring him back

Bit sad innit?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Keyword: if
cuz if not hell just get one-shotted

Not so sure about that, since Sonic scales massively above his AP, which basically makes 465 ExaFoe look like a joke in comparison, and his durability is MUCH higher than his AP, as he can no sell attacks from characters more than 3 times as powerful as him

 

[DragonLord]

Keyword: if
cuz if not hell just get one-shotted

Like I said most Super Sonic matches Do often start with dodging and maneuvering Attacks, which wouldn’t be hard due to how small Kirby and there attacks are, plus the addition of natural flight and teleportation and the such, being hard to get is one of his general character points

I’d also say we’d need the numbers to say if he’s one shot

 

[sanicspood]

why was when sonic was weaker people just ruled this match out instantly cuz it was a stomp and kirby resists everything sonic has but now that he’s stronger he suddenly has wincons again lmaoooo

 

[The_Pink_God]

Not so sure about that, since Sonic scales massively above his AP, which basically makes 465 ExaFoe look like a joke in comparison, and his durability is MUCH higher than his AP, as he can no sell attacks from characters more than 3 times as powerful as him

Pretty sure his Dura isn't "Borderline 3-C"