Sonic vs Goku

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Even if could erase Sonic (which he still can't), Xeno Goku NEVER uses hakai in-character even if he does know it. The only one to actually do it is ChouKu and even for him it was only after everything else failed against God Zamasu and is still super ooc for him

 

[GarrixianXD]

Well, you should make a CRT about it.

 

[elhermanopadre]

Even if could erase Sonic (which he still can't), Xeno Goku NEVER uses hakai in-character even if he does know it. The only one to actually do it is ChouKu and even for him it was only after everything else failed against God Zamasu and is still super ooc for him

IN CHARACTER, here WE GO AGAIN. It was in a thread talking about how xeno goku can use goku's ability including the hakai (I will have to verify that).

 

[elhermanopadre]

Well, you should make a CRT about it.

I will verify again , I'm not too sure.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

When is this version of Goku said to have the hakai?

 

[Roun12]

Yes I see , I will drop the blitz argument. I could say the same thing for xeno goku , slap demigra would transcended to beats world , depending on the interpretation , it could be outerversal are in the complex-multiversal-hyperversal ranges.

What multitudes ? not goku win still win even with fate hax , hakai takes care of that.

You gotta be playing with outerversal. The absolute best you could argue for is 6D, MAYBE 7D, Beat's world with extreme wank.

Xeno Goku doesn't know Hakai. Sonic's passive ring aura can restore his physical and spiritual essence. Also, Super Sonic can use and resists EE on a Conceptual level and has causality manipulation on top of that.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Doesn't Super Sonic also attack with conceptual manip? No one in Dragon Ball can hope to resist that

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

some serious big brain over here

 

[elhermanopadre]

You gotta be playing with outerversal. The absolute best you could argue for is 6D, MAYBE 7D, Beat's world with extreme wank.

Xeno Goku doesn't know Hakai. Sonic's passive ring aura can restore his physical and spiritual essence. Also, Super Sonic can use and resists EE on a Conceptual level and has causality manipulation on top of that.

Nop , it isn't wank my friend , it isn't maybe 7d , it's likely to be far more than that. That sucks , because of sonic's bs fate , and xeno goku not having hakai in is profil than I guess , he will lose because of that reasons.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

He could be 1-A for all I care, but if he's still physically 3D (which he is), then 3D hax will definitely affect him

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

1-A goku

pog.

Seriously tho,stomp FRA.Goku cant do anything against fate hax.

 

[Sonicflare9]

should I add keysword for goku to make it more fair?

 

[00potato]

Can’t he just incap?

 

[elhermanopadre]

He could be 1-A for all I care, but if he's still physically 3D (which he is), then 3D hax will definitely affect him

Nop , definitely. He will overpower it .

 

[elhermanopadre]

should I add keysword for goku to make it more fair?

Could be used, if only this goku could use hakai to get rid of the annoying fate resurrection.

 

[elhermanopadre]

1-A goku

pog.

Seriously tho,stomp FRA.Goku cant do anything against fate hax.

Yes , he only wins because this goku isn't granted hakai , not because he's more powerfull.

 

[00potato]

Wouldn’t fate still prevent hakai?

 

[elhermanopadre]

Wouldn’t fate still prevent hakai?

He said that it only destroy is body , so if goku is given hakai , the fight is over.

 

[00potato]

But fate would prevent that.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Yeah no. His fatehax includes power nullification, which will break any magic or curse put on him.

Also sealing is just putting something in another thing, so Sonic can just break free from the keysword due to his immense AP advantage. Not that fate would even allow Sonic to be trapped in the first place

 

[elhermanopadre]

But fate would prevent that.

?

 

[00potato]

Yeah fatehax would prevent hakai since it counts as him dying, he would need to incap, which should be possible but unlikely.
Voting The fast.

 

[Zencha9]

fate hax is a bitch
i vote sonic if not a stomp

 

[elhermanopadre]

Yeah fatehax would prevent hakai since it counts as him dying, he would need to incap, which should be possible but unlikely.
Voting The fast.

But hakai's destroy the existence, so even if his existence (soul etc..) is gone so fate will bring him back ?

 

[elhermanopadre]

fate hax is a bitch
i vote sonic if not a stomp

He only wins because of hax nothing less , he's still inferior in raw power.

 

[00potato]

But hakai's destroy the existence, so even if his existence (soul etc..) is gone so fate will bring him back ?

Yeah, fate should stop that.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Sonic has resistence to EE, soul, concept destruction, so hakai not work

 

[Zencha9]

He only wins because of hax nothing less , he's still inferior in raw power.

i hate to be that guy but it's not on the profile xeno goku is still baseline 2-A

 

[elhermanopadre]

Sonic has resistence to EE, soul, concept destruction, so hakai not work

But hakai's potency is linked to the users raw power , so since he's stronger there is great chance it will kill him.

 

[00potato]

i hate to be that guy but it's not on the profile xeno goku is still baseline 2-A

In base or with transformation? Those make a big difference.

 

[elhermanopadre]

i hate to be that guy but it's not on the profile xeno goku is still baseline 2-A

Yes I know , it's a matter of time before that gets updated.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Archie has a FAR bigger scaling chain then Xeno Goku can even hipe for. Sonic is so much stronger it's not even funny

 

[Zencha9]

In base or with transformation? Those make a big difference.

im pretty sure that amps don't work like that with 2-A

 

[00potato]

Actually Goku might actually blitz and one-shot (funny right.) since he starts in base (profile calls it 2-A.) and could easily transform.

 

[00potato]

im pretty sure that amps don't work like that with 2-A

Why? It should work the same as the other Super Sayin forms.

 

[GarrixianXD]

1-A goku

pog.

Seriously tho,stomp FRA.Goku cant do anything against fate hax.

*High 1-A

Son Goku (Canon, Jump Force)/SSJRyu1

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう Son Gokū), born Kakarot (カカロット Kakarotto), is the main protagonist of Dragon Ball. Goku is a Saiyan originally sent to destroy Earth as an infant. However, a head injury at an early age alters his memory, ridding him of his initial destructive nature and allowing him to grow...

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[elhermanopadre]

Archie has a FAR bigger scaling chain then Xeno Goku can even hipe for. Sonic is so much stronger it's not even funny

So much stronger were ? xeno goku can be argued to be outerversal to boundless at mid-ball , to far above 2-A and there is this scan , it might but all the games characters far stronger than they are.

 

[elhermanopadre]

*High 1-A

Son Goku (Canon, Jump Force)/SSJRyu1

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう Son Gokū), born Kakarot (カカロット Kakarotto), is the main protagonist of Dragon Ball. Goku is a Saiyan originally sent to destroy Earth as an infant. However, a head injury at an early age alters his memory, ridding him of his initial destructive nature and allowing him to grow...

character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com

oK.

 

[00potato]

Actually what is the gap between SS and base Goku?

 

[elhermanopadre]

Actually what is the gap between SS and base Goku?

You meant ssj ? since SS is saint seiya I think , but ssj grade 1 is 50 times.