Sonic vs. Cronus

[Epsilon_R]

Almost necro bump

 

[ShakeResounding]

They both have Fate Manipulatuon and neither have Type 4 Acausality, so... Yeah. Weird scenario here.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Not sure if Cronus's fate hax is applicable, also Sonic now has non-physical interaction and resists conceptual manipulation.

 

[ShakeResounding]

I've read through the profile, and Sonic resists a fair amount of what Cronus does.

His Aura can restore his physical and spiritual essence, as well as resists Soul Manipulation, so the Soul Draining is a no-go. Not sure how that would stack up against the Pragma Spathe, though.

Sonic is also explicitly stated to retain his Life Force, so any life-draining might not be as effective. Not trying to say tt won't work entirely, cuz that seems NLFish.

Cronus has no answer towards Holy Manipulation or Fate Manipulation.

If I'm wrong on something, feel free to correct me.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Pretty sure the Pragma Spathe negs Mid-Godly through conceptual manipulation. Thing is, Sonic resists type 2 conceptual manipulation and Cronus can only manipulate concepts up to type 3. OOF.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Really? His Conceptual Manipulation isn't even labeled, so I assumed it was Type 2. Where's the Type 3 stated? On other profiles?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It should be added to the profiles. Saint Seiya abstracts are Aristotelian so manipulating them would be type 3.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

You know, does Cronus even have a way of killing Sonic when Sonic tanks his bread and butter, and he has no answer to being nullified by passive holy manipulation?

TBH this feels kind of stompy.

 

[ShakeResounding]

No answer towards Fate Manip either, but I'm not sure if it'd be a stomp.

Sonic can only kill him with Conceptual Manipulation, so it isn't like he has a wide variety of thing to take him down. That's basically why his battle against M wasn't a stomp despite M essentially embodying darkness, because Conceptual Manip was the only answer there too. If it really is a stomp, then I'm okay with this being closed I guess.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sonic can also BFR outside the multiverse and Cronus lacks the range to get out of it.

As for M, being a type 5 acausal helps him neg Sonic's fate hax and he's also massively above baseline, so that one was certainly more fair in comparison.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Oh yeah, forgot about Type 5.

BFR would also work, yeah... Could this really be a stomp?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'd ask Matt

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I mean, Cronus pretty much gets used as a punching bag here.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'd ask Matt

 

[MrLuk2000]

Necro bump

 

[Davidgumazon]

Can I ask something - How can holy manipulation hurt/kill human? What's the effect?

This "holy" powers and stuff had been bothering my brain for weeks cuz I absolutely don't have any idea. (Im referring the "holy" powers from Sonic and holy based powers from Isekai manga/novel, I dunno... I confused ??o_0?????)

 

[MrLuk2000]

Sonic FRA

 

[MrLuk2000]

So is this a necro?

 

[MagicCloud6]

Necro bump possibly?

 

[ElixirBlue]

So much has been worked on since the original time this match was made.

 

[MYHERO]

Why revive this? Sonic already had the edge, and now he just stomps with even more additions. Dead threads should stay dead for a reason.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Mod close this?

 

[Epsilon_R]

This thread is still alive?

Edit: No longer alive