Considering that Chaos Control is a power that can be used by Metal Sonic/Metal Overlord by copying Shadow, it really makes me think that maybe they could have Shadow using actual Chaos Control, even if on a smaller scale just by using his own power. Maybe could remove the Inhibitor Rings to match the power of one Emerald Chaos Control if he had to. Because really, with how much Black Doom could do on Shadow Generations without an emerald really puts things into perspective, especially if they continue to downplay the power of a single emerald because eventually, you could even say Black Doom alone is stronger than a Chaos Emerald since what he did far surpassed with what they often say a single emerald could do.
He never needed an emerald for either of those. Honestly outside of The End and the Time Eater, he may be the strongest non-emerald user in the series.
If I might ask: why would he be stronger than the likes of Solaris? Not that I don't have a problem with that, of course, but I am curious to know your line of thinking.
Solaris is an emerald user.
Ah...I was confused there for a second, thanks for clarifying what you meant by that. But yeah, I can see Doom being the strongest non emerald user outside the two others you mentioned.
Add the Black Comet in instead of MORE Radical Highway.
No, Metal overlord and Time Eater can stop/slow them in time with no problem
Personally, I'd do the Evil Foundary, and I'd invest in a single Stage of Two Acts from the next planned Title after Shadow Generations to act as a hype booster/teaser of a Stage since the events of the game affect all of Time, with this new location potentially giving hints as to what the gimmick or story may be from things in the background or minor dialogue of character observations.
You can break out of Overlord's pretty damn quickly if you mash,so there should be some resistance. Not only that but Super Sonic Power(Team Blast) cancels it if you pull it off while he's activating it.
That can be argued they just pull it off before he executes it.
while Completed Shadow breaks off instantly without any trouble, aka, Super's don't scale, specially since Shadow's isn't a Chaos Energy form at all
I suppose so,it should already be active already,but crazy-ass speed is obviously a thing.
We're talking about forms that are the apex of the series that consistently asspull unprecedented techniques to specifically counter the enemies they battle.
and that use a Power Source that has nothing to do with what Complete Shadow is using at all, nor does it have any reason to outscale it in terms of anything but power, specially when Neo Devil Doom is already arguably superior to many of the Chaos Emerald users we saw so far in the series
They have literally every reason to outscale when they've consistently been seen as the win button swiss army knife of reality warping & countering techniques. Also, Base Sonic did Chaos Control with a paper weight ages ago.
yeah, they are much more powerful in raw power than anything else.............and Completed Shadow and Neo Devil Doom are equal, if not superior, to beings empowered by them, making this comparison not work here
....dope? doesn't really have anything o do with anything here
Where is this implied? I haven't played the game or read all the dialogue yet.
Doom affects White Space and warps it so he's very likely 6D.
I thought it was agreed that the hypertimeline is superior to white space. I'm so confused
Then everyone should be 6D then. Why is it such a crucial plot point that Shadow needs a singular emerald if he & Black Doom just completely shit on & outscale all 7?
He's either 5D or 6D. I don't know exactly where affecting White Space puts you at.
Black Arms physiology is strong. Simple as.
yeah it is......and due to him Altering Space Time enough to bring the old timeline back, he is very likely altering the Hypertimeline, plus some "i am the perfect being" lines would suggest > to the likes of Time Eater and Solaris as, him altering space time on that scale, would make him likely aware of them
there is actually, he grows as strong as Shadow grows, so he is just as strong in comparison to Shadow as he was back in the day
So Sonic's speed can cure viruses, move so fast it fixes all of space-time, and refills Chaos Emeralds to their full power.
We had Mecha Sonic literally do that in Scrapnik lmao.
He does say this verbatim. Black Doom is only as strong as he is at the end because Shadow himself literally grew to that level. And then Shadow...still beats him anyway somehow. Because Ultimate Lifeform, baby.
Fair point.
I guess this is a skill feat more than anything.
That's what I'd go for as well, but JJ seems to advocate for 1-C base forms instead. As much as I hate it, I do see some merit in it, especially now that we know Sonic's speed can restore the Chaos Emeralds to their full power...
Nah, Perfect Chaos specially has a bunch of statements and showing saying otherwise, and MO is > Chaos
