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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

or it could be another rush game, but if it is another advance, i would like to explore more of emerl's past, since chronicles is non canon now, i would like to know what they would come up with, maybe conections to the ancients? emer does look like chaos
 


Ken Penders once said something about suing Paramount for some scenes of the movie that "looked like the comic" and specifically "Chaos Emerald-powered Echidna looks like Enerjak". I wonder if that made them double down on "we can't talk anything Archie-related at any level.
Ken Penders is such a pathetic joke.
To me? He's just eternally salty that other writers for the Archie comic like Ian Fynn took his ideas and actually made something out of them, that's the reason why characters like Scourge, Enerjak and Mammoth Mogul are popular outside the Archie fan community
 
Hello, idk if i'm in the right place to ask this, if not my bad.
I was wondering: Does MaginaryWorld contains only sleep dreams or dreams as a whole?
Cause in the game the whole point is when the main cast fall asleep (or not?)
If so, won't the dreams that Illumina mentions (ambitions, possession, domination) only relate to the dreams when someone is asleep? (Like idk dreaming about conquering the world istead of being an actual ambition (so like dreaming about an ambition))?

Sorry if this sounds weird but i had these questions in my mind for quite a bit now.
 
Hello, idk if i'm in the right place to ask this, if not my bad.
I was wondering: Does MaginaryWorld contains only sleep dreams or dreams as a whole?
Cause in the game the whole point is when the main cast fall asleep (or not?)
If so, won't the dreams that Illumina mentions (ambitions, possession, domination) only relate to the dreams when someone is asleep? (Like idk dreaming about conquering the world istead of being an actual ambition (so like dreaming about an ambition))?

Sorry if this sounds weird but i had these questions in my mind for quite a bit now.
It's not the dream depot from Mario. The dreams in Maginary World have everything to do with goals and ambitions and nothing to do with sleeping.
 
It's not the dream depot from Mario. The dreams in Maginary World have everything to do with goals and ambitions and nothing to do with sleeping.
Alr thank you. So if this is how things work, does Maginary World have the ambition of Mephiles/Solaris to nuke the cosmology?
 
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plus this
 
Transcending is a vague term unless used in the context of DT, which so far only extends to the fourth dimension.
 
I’m pretty sure by this site’s standards (without more context) we’d interpret that as him simply creating an Eggmanland outside of space-time, not some giga Tier 1 rating
 
Alr thank you. So if this is how things work, does Maginary World have the ambition of Mephiles/Solaris to nuke the cosmology?
It should. I commented on that. This should either boost the cosmology countless times higher into 2-B... or into High 1-B....
 
It should. I commented on that. This should either boost the cosmology countless times higher into 2-B... or into High 1-B....
idk if were you that said this: "For what it's worth, Mephiles/Solaris' dream of consuming all existing timelines until nothing remains should absolutely be inside of Maginary World. The implication of that is kind of confusing though. If the dream to destroy all of Maginary World is inside Maginary World, does that mean Maginary World contains itself infinitely? In that case, when Solaris nukes the cosmology, is he also nuking the MW dream-verse in which he successfully does the same thing and consumes all timelines? What a mind-****. Did anyone else ever think about how paradoxical this is? If Maginary World really works how it claims to work, Mephiles/Solaris' dream would make it infinitely layered....... Solaris' ambition to destroy MW is within MW, which is within the scope of of Solaris' destruction, which is within MW, which is within the scope of Solaris' destruction, and so on."

I want to add...if Solaris wants to nuke the cosmology, doesn't MaginaryWorld contain itself infinitely?

I dunno why this didn't get accepted as something valid cause this actually makes sense (in its weirdness)
 
Also can i share with you a 10D scaling arguments i found some time ago? Just to know what you think about it
 
I’m pretty sure by this site’s standards (without more context) we’d interpret that as him simply creating an Eggmanland outside of space-time, not some giga Tier 1 rating
trascending is already surpassing,why will be higher in the tier,and not just the tier 1
 
Probably 2-A more likely.
How so?
why High 1-B?
Because of what I said earlier in the thread being:
idk if were you that said this: "For what it's worth, Mephiles/Solaris' dream of consuming all existing timelines until nothing remains should absolutely be inside of Maginary World. The implication of that is kind of confusing though. If the dream to destroy all of Maginary World is inside Maginary World, does that mean Maginary World contains itself infinitely? In that case, when Solaris nukes the cosmology, is he also nuking the MW dream-verse in which he successfully does the same thing and consumes all timelines? What a mind-****. Did anyone else ever think about how paradoxical this is? If Maginary World really works how it claims to work, Mephiles/Solaris' dream would make it infinitely layered....... Solaris' ambition to destroy MW is within MW, which is within the scope of of Solaris' destruction, which is within MW, which is within the scope of Solaris' destruction, and so on."
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Maginary World should be infinitely layered, and every layer has a super-dimensional Solaris on higher level of reality than the last, which is just a dream by comparison. According to the FAQ, if lower levels of reality are akin to dreams or otherwose meaninglessly small objects, they are qualitatively inferior.
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...pKjk0otUyx2ZNR-9E/edit#heading=h.z838g8oob2l8 Special Stages have different laws of physics. Dimensions with entirely different laws of logic are 9D. Special Stages are even stated hyperspaces

Well...maginary world itself isn't the 4th dimension, https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Maginaryworld#:~:text=Fourth Dimension Space: This world is where dreams are stored. Here, Sonic and friends must gather the Precioustone fragments to prevent the constellations from falling out of place. They also battle Void in the Temple of Light. It's the other way around, the 4th dimension is only one location in the MaginaryWorld, we know it's a dream because...it's called a dream, this would inevitably prove that the Universe, of an infinite size can be embedded as a flat projection in the nexus of reality and dreams. This is by default 5-D since higher dimensional models such as the ADD state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_extra_dimensions#:~:text=In particle physics,higher dimensional space. that a universe on a lower membrane exists in a bulk, or space in where the 4-D brane, is an infinitesimal "thin" shell on an extended physical plane, which by default must be infinite in size according to the connotation that it is a hyperspace for the lower continuum using this we can find out that maganryworld the space that contains everything would be a dimension higher than 5 meaning its 6d and since time>space
  1. The Sonic Multiverse is 7 to 10 dimensional. Maginary World is the 7th dimension, and the special stages are the ninth, but it also has time which means the time of the special stages are the 10th dimension. The container of all these dimensions would be 11 dimensional. The regular sonic universe due to being parallel would be 7 dimensional But this could go higher The reason this isn’t valid, is because Sonic’s universe is parallel to the special stages. This means that Sonic’s universe is actually 9th dimensional And has 10th dimensional time Sonic’s Universes and the Time Dimension + Special Stages: 9 to 10D The fourth dimension: 12 dimensional since higher dimensional models such as the ADD state (using the evidence you found, it would be above regular time since it’s relative to your 5D argument) Maginary World: Due to containing everything, it would be 13 dimensional. It’s time would be 14 dimensional

  2. Conclusion Sonic’s Universes and the Time Dimension + Special Stages: 9 to 10D The fourth dimension: 12 dimensional since higher dimensional models such as the ADD state (using the evidence you found, it would be above regular time since it’s relative to your 5D argument) Maginary World: Due to containing everything, it would be 13 dimensional. It’s time would be 14 dimensional Time Dimension (06): This would be a 15-16 dimensional place due to containing all the multiverse(s) in the sonic verse. A multiverse itself is a timeline that contains timelines in Sonic; this makes it a 15 dimensional timeline. The time dimension from 06 contains all the entire cosmology, which is 16 dimensional. White Space: White Space exists outside of time itself, and is above the time dimensions. White space is 17 dimensional because of this Null Space: A space closed off from all dimensions gains the possibility of being 14-17 dimensional Sonic is above White Space or at least on the level, so he is 17-18 dimensional (Hyperversal)
Let me know what you guys think i'm curious about your opinions.
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/...pKjk0otUyx2ZNR-9E/edit#heading=h.z838g8oob2l8 Special Stages have different laws of physics. Dimensions with entirely different laws of logic are 9D. Special Stages are even stated hyperspaces

Well...maginary world itself isn't the 4th dimension, https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Maginaryworld#:~:text=Fourth Dimension Space: This world is where dreams are stored. Here, Sonic and friends must gather the Precioustone fragments to prevent the constellations from falling out of place. They also battle Void in the Temple of Light. It's the other way around, the 4th dimension is only one location in the MaginaryWorld, we know it's a dream because...it's called a dream, this would inevitably prove that the Universe, of an infinite size can be embedded as a flat projection in the nexus of reality and dreams. This is by default 5-D since higher dimensional models such as the ADD state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_extra_dimensions#:~:text=In particle physics,higher dimensional space. that a universe on a lower membrane exists in a bulk, or space in where the 4-D brane, is an infinitesimal "thin" shell on an extended physical plane, which by default must be infinite in size according to the connotation that it is a hyperspace for the lower continuum using this we can find out that maganryworld the space that contains everything would be a dimension higher than 5 meaning its 6d and since time>space
  1. The Sonic Multiverse is 7 to 10 dimensional. Maginary World is the 7th dimension, and the special stages are the ninth, but it also has time which means the time of the special stages are the 10th dimension. The container of all these dimensions would be 11 dimensional. The regular sonic universe due to being parallel would be 7 dimensional But this could go higher The reason this isn’t valid, is because Sonic’s universe is parallel to the special stages. This means that Sonic’s universe is actually 9th dimensional And has 10th dimensional time Sonic’s Universes and the Time Dimension + Special Stages: 9 to 10D The fourth dimension: 12 dimensional since higher dimensional models such as the ADD state (using the evidence you found, it would be above regular time since it’s relative to your 5D argument) Maginary World: Due to containing everything, it would be 13 dimensional. It’s time would be 14 dimensional

  2. Conclusion Sonic’s Universes and the Time Dimension + Special Stages: 9 to 10D The fourth dimension: 12 dimensional since higher dimensional models such as the ADD state (using the evidence you found, it would be above regular time since it’s relative to your 5D argument) Maginary World: Due to containing everything, it would be 13 dimensional. It’s time would be 14 dimensional Time Dimension (06): This would be a 15-16 dimensional place due to containing all the multiverse(s) in the sonic verse. A multiverse itself is a timeline that contains timelines in Sonic; this makes it a 15 dimensional timeline. The time dimension from 06 contains all the entire cosmology, which is 16 dimensional. White Space: White Space exists outside of time itself, and is above the time dimensions. White space is 17 dimensional because of this Null Space: A space closed off from all dimensions gains the possibility of being 14-17 dimensional Sonic is above White Space or at least on the level, so he is 17-18 dimensional (Hyperversal)
Let me know what you guys think i'm curious about your opinions.

someone can read this
 
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