- 10,398
- 4,564
I'm telling you, get those numbers to Duncan, watch him go higher.That's 671 Septillion for Base and 73 Decillion for Super, for my numerically challenged people out there...
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I'm telling you, get those numbers to Duncan, watch him go higher.That's 671 Septillion for Base and 73 Decillion for Super, for my numerically challenged people out there...
what do you suggest then?I think you should also redo the calculation of sonic outpacing the ad infinitum maze.
because that calculation is based on the fact that this is sonic idw and not the merge,also the fact that the badniks could have more stamina that just assuming they last 2 months
i suggested we take into account the speed of sonic since the timeline of that arc,meaning the ''FTL speeds''are gonna be taking for the calculation.what do you suggest then?
this is what happens when you give the ben 10 writers power over another franchise lolI'm telling you, get those numbers to Duncan, watch him go higher.
ok, go to the person who made the calc and suggest a recalc then, let us see where does that goi suggested we take into account the speed of sonic since the timeline of that arc,meaning the ''FTL speeds''are gonna be taking for the calculation.
That's 671 Septillion for Base and 73 Decillion for Super, for my numerically challenged people out there...
how fast is that guy anyway?eventually Sonic shall outpace the invisible dragon
2.805119934004477e+226 times the speed of light, or 28 Quattuorseptuagintillion or in other wordshow fast is that guy anyway?
if sonic's accelerated development allows him to be stronger every second,tecnically he should be at least 4 times more powerful every second(this is just a estimation based on the rings amplification)just run faster ?
for **** sake dude2.805119934004477e+226 times the speed of light, or 28 Quattuorseptuagintillion or in other words
28051199340044770000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
If I'm not mistaken
It visibly does amp his speed tho. When he uses it, THAT'S when he starts to see everything in slow motion. Not to mention if that was his natural speed, the amp of Spin Dash wouldn't have helped Sonic as the Eggforcers would be able to react. Not to mention when he helped his friends use the Spin Dash, even Sonic moved in slow-mo from their perspective. I think it seems clear that when Sonic uses amps his reactions are enhanced too. Otherwise we'd only be arguing his travel speed is the only thing affectedThat's understandable. Thank you for the response.
I don't really agree with Spindash increasing his reaction speed, but you definitely have a point that, if his reaction speed did naturally scale, then the robots' would as well, thus creating an issue. So, I feel it makes sense that it's a full amp, so to speak, because of that.
Sure. All I did was divide the Eggforces real speed by the speed they were visibly moving at in slow-mo. That shows us the dilation of time and thus the increase Spin Dash provides. I got the Eggforcers speed through official statements of Sonic being lightspeed/ftl due to calc stacking not being allowed (Because duh, would lead to every verse being wanked to hell and back)@LaserPrecision Could you explain this calc to me?
No, I'm just using officially stated speed since calc-stacking isn't allowed as that leads to wank. As for how I did it, I explained above and it's shown in the calc.If I may ask, are your calculations being done by taking whatever speed VS Battles buys for base and multiplying by 1billion?
If it helps, e+20 means there's 20 0's/digits following the number before e. So 9e+20 means 9 followed by 20 zeroes. 7.531e+20 means 7 is followed by 20 digits but the first three digits after 7 is 531. Everything after is zeroes.i had trouble with this a couple of days ago, like, i didn't had the fuckest idea of what the hell "e+20" even meant lol, it got me into a lot of trouble for my little dumb head lmao
The calculation doesn't use Sonic's speed to get the maze size. It uses an assumed speed for Badniks. Travel speed specifically. Given Sonic >>>> 99% of the verse in travel speed, it's doubtful they'd be able to run at lightspeed or FTL. However, their battery possibly lasting longer is entirely valid. I could do three ends ranging from a couple months up to a year (6 months would be mid-end given Forces showed the Egg Empire can fight for 6 months straight albeit we don't see much of what happens in that time)i suggested we take into account the speed of sonic since the timeline of that arc,meaning the ''FTL speeds''are gonna be taking for the calculation.
Imo, the way Sonic's AD works is that it's faster when around far faster/far stronger opponents. Thus when in games he's facing people only comparable, he barely develops physically (Some people might note that he improved, but that's about it), but in a game against an opponent ludicrously faster or stronger, like Sonic Battle, he jumps from his current tier to Multi-Solar in less than a second by ******* talking to Ultimate Emerl. Man jumped from Small Star level to Multi-Solar pretty much instantly by talking. Then he caught up to Infinite who would scale above his Spin Dash and was thus over a billion times faster and caught up by doing nothing but being tortured in prison for 6 months. Classic Sonic instantly caught up to near Modern Sonic level by just BEING around Modern Sonic. Thus why I think Sonic's AD is similar to Garou's in that he needs someone strong or fast compared to him for it to kick in have the most noticable affects.if sonic's accelerated development allows him to be stronger every second,tecnically he should be at least 4 times more powerful every second(this is just a estimation based on the rings amplification)
now,put that in a calculator and i get,1.32E+36 times the first sonic used,so,it will be useless for sonic even with that amplification(unless in sonic prime sonic increases is power and speed to the point of having 300%power and speed even when they stole at least 1/4 of his power and speed by absorption, that is, a 12 times power and speed increase)but even then that is still to low.
Uhhh, depends on when the other Sonic scholars wanna do it. Namely Shake among a few others.when's the thread?
I read like a few pages of Invisible Dragon and tapped out before my brain melted away. It legit reads like a child who lost the "no you" contest at school, I know it sounds rude but I couldn't really think of a more tactful way of describing that "level" of writing.for **** sake dude
Uhhh, depends on when the other Sonic scholars wanna do it. Namely Shake among a few others.
They shouldn't just be ''mach 1'' either since you take sonic almost being caught by them into account,also,the robots din't show in the series get out of stamina or energy,they can probably last indeterminatelyThe calculation doesn't use Sonic's speed to get the maze size. It uses an assumed speed for Badniks. Travel speed specifically. Given Sonic >>>> 99% of the verse in travel speed, it's doubtful they'd be able to run at lightspeed or FTL. However, their battery possibly lasting longer is entirely valid. I could do three ends ranging from a couple months up to a year (6 months would be mid-end given Forces showed the Egg Empire can fight for 6 months straight albeit we don't see much of what happens in that time)
btw i did some quick maths with the google calculator and well..................
base sonic would go to 671.388.910.000.000.000.000.000.000c
and super sonic, if we already make him faster than the above value since he would logically naturraly be faster than anything base sonic can do would be 734.588.800.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000c, yeah i think that this is the 3rd or the 4rd fastest finite value of speed on the wiki lol
edit: i forgot a zero lol
Base Archie right now:That's 671 Septillion for Base and 73 Decillion for Super, for my numerically challenged people out there...
I took into account they caught up to a casual Sonic. There's a manual stating Sonic chooses to normally run at supersonic speed. Not lightspeed or anything like that. If we see a robot from Eggman (a fodder badnik) catching up to 100% serious Sonic running as fast as he can? Then sure, I'll assume FTL travel speed. Otherwise, no.They shouldn't just be ''mach 1'' either since you take sonic almost being caught by them into account,also,the robots din't show in the series get out of stamina or energy,they can probably last indeterminately
The thing is though, the audience sees the Eggforcers move all the time, meaning cinematic timing is always in effect. Meaning you can't just divide like that, at best you can get some multiplier for statuing them.Sure. All I did was divide the Eggforces real speed by the speed they were visibly moving at in slow-mo. That shows us the dilation of time and thus the increase Spin Dash provides. I got the Eggforcers speed through official statements of Sonic being lightspeed/ftl due to calc stacking not being allowed (Because duh, would lead to every verse being wanked to hell and back)
KLOL said it was viable and was the one who confirmed my method was okay. It was also accepted/evaluated on top of that.The thing is though, the audience sees the Eggforcers move all the time, meaning cinematic timing is always in effect. Meaning you can't just divide like that, at best you can get some multiplier for statuing them.
I took into account they caught up to a casual Sonic. There's a manual stating Sonic chooses to normally run at supersonic speed. Not lightspeed or anything like that. If we see a robot from Eggman (a fodder badnik) catching up to 100% serious Sonic running as fast as he can? Then sure, I'll assume FTL travel speed. Otherwise, no.
And evidently these robots don't have infinite fuel as Eggman said their power would run out before they could finish the maze.
That's kinda weird but alright I guess.KLOL said it was viable and was the one who confirmed my method was okay. It was also accepted/evaluated on top of that.
99% of things in a fictional setting are slowed down to be visible for the viewer. Such as bullets, lightning, etc. Yet for calcs where a character statues them, we can use the same method and that's fine. The same would apply for Eggforcers here.
but....wouldn't the boat go flying?
but....wouldn't the boat go flying?
That doesn't make sense. If you're saying lightspeed is his minimum speed, you're assuming the slowest he can or will go. When it's stated he actively/normally chooses to run at supersonic speed. So we know that's the speed he prefers to run at in most cases (Though he can obviously go faster when desired).sonic's minimum speed could be light speed, and not just supersonic speeds,also,I am 99% sure that the reason why they lost the fuel is rather something of fiction and its strange logic. That somehow infinite energy characters can lose all that energy is still fiction after all.
okThat doesn't make sense. If you're saying lightspeed is his minimum speed, you're assuming the slowest he can or will go. When it's stated he actively/normally chooses to run at supersonic speed. So we know that's the speed he prefers to run at in most cases (Though he can obviously go faster when desired).
No, it's not fiction or strange logic. It's just contradictory. If something with infinite battery can run out of battery, then that just means the battery doesn't have limitless energy. Simple as that.
I might throw Sage against this thing.Who would be a good versus matchup now that 2-A Sonic is accepted?
Laser was planning on it but I think he got caught up on scan searchingif no one is going to do the thread for the 1 000 000 000x amp, should i?
It’s only inevitable before Sonic gets matched up against FFI just know someone is going to throw Sonic against Pokemon again.
who?It’s only inevitable before Sonic gets matched up against FF