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Infinite or endless possibilities don’t mean anything without many worlds theory
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It does mean something, because in shadow the hedgehog, the actions generate ramifications or time lines, besides that in sonic 06 the time lines were said.Infinite or endless possibilities don’t mean anything without many worlds theory
The definition of limitless can mean multiple things as I had sent earlier (well, I assume it went through, I was tired when I sent it, so maybe I forgot to). It can mean no limits or a lot of. Even if we assume the former, it holds true within Sonic's world.
Sure, they could be reading this right now, let them ask their questions. It's fine.
Except its not argument from ignorance and now you're misusing it. I EXPLICITLY stated there's no proof that it does or DOESN'T exist. You're committing the proving non-existence fallacy by trying to make me prove the non-existence of something: https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Proving-Non-Existence
You're also committing proof by example fallacy by assuming that since some examples of concepts existing in Sonic means EVERY concept exists in Sonic which is entirely irrational reasoning. In addition, you're using argument from ignorance fallacy yourself by assuming that since there's no proof they don't exit that they must exist.
Sure, some authors who don't care much about the lore of their story will say yes if random people tweet them random questions about cosmology if they know a little bit about what is being mentioned. I agree. Which is what I feel makes them less credible, similar to people harassing people who worked on Dragon Ball stuff for random stuff they don't care about or know little about.
It's an answer talking about Sonic's world to a question relating to Sonic's world. It's very much logical to assume it was in reference to Sonic's world when both the question and answer were about Sonic's world. I feel you'd need to be discord debate goon (which is understandable, its funny to do) or be someone who really cares about wanking Sonic to the highest level possible to think otherwise.
Or Modal Realism which Ian confirmed Sonic’s world is compatible with.Infinite or endless possibilities don’t mean anything without many worlds theory
Most of the evidence for many worlds was stuff like ‘06 (where timelines can mean time axes/points in time rather than separate universes), and Classic Sonic being from a different dimension now, which was retconned back to him being from the past.It does mean something, because in shadow the hedgehog, the actions generate ramifications or time lines, besides that in sonic 06 the time lines were said.
and the penguin guy literraly made a blog about MWT in sonic
Most of the evidence for many worlds was stuff like ‘06 (where timelines can mean time axes/points in time rather than separate universes), and Classic Sonic being from a different dimension now, which was retconned back to him being from the past.
Not enough evidence for many worlds yet.
yes,the end of the universe,a universe which is infinite(according to the end there is countless planets,stars and lives)On an unrelated note, should the Paradox Prism have MFTL+ shatter attack speed? It shattered the entire universe in a timeframe of about 34 seconds in-episode, meaning it had to reach the edge of the universe in that time to shatter all of it.
He isn’t from another dimension, they retconned it.The 06 thing should already be enough to prove its existence,also,seriosly,why it will removed the fact that is still sonic from another dimension?
what everHe isn’t from another dimension, they retconned it.
And with ‘06 timelines could just be a mistranslation of time axes.
You forgot the one I showed earlierNope there’s only a few definitions of limitless.
Oxford: without end, limit, or boundary.
Merriam Webster: : without being controlled or stopped : without being limited (without limit)
or
as in infinite
being or seeming to be without limits (limitless)
Dictionary.com: without limit; boundless
If I said all concepts didn't exist in Sonic, my mistake. But I clarified in the comment before the one you replied to here that neither could be true without evidence. So this didn't just come out of left field:I’m not misusing it you’re shifting the goal post, you were clearly saying it was one thing before and now it’s neither? There are choices now choose. Nonsense you can easily show something doesn’t exist in a fictional series by showing contrary evidence there’s no fallacy there.
Perhaps it would've been better to bold it in the initial comment, but I know a lot of people find it redundant for me to bold messages I refrained from it this time around.No, Occam's razor doesn't dictate all concepts that exist irl exist in a fictional setting. This can be dismissed via Hitchen's razor anyway. No proof it exists in the world means it can similarly be dismissed without evidence. One can't assert they do or don't exist in the world without evidence supporting either claim.
That is entirely proof by fallacy. Your example also isn't very comparable. What you're saying is that since we saw an Octopus in Sonic's world, that every animal that exists in our world exists in Sonic's. In the case of just Octopus', sure, it's common sense since the Octopus would need bare minimum parents in order to exist and thus multiple would logically exist.That’s not proof by example fallacy that’s just common sense, if you see an octopus in Sonic as an example then that’s proof that an entire species of octopuses are able to exist within the world of Sonic unless there’s proof that octopus is the only one that exists in the entirety of the series.
That's only part of the issue. Them harassing them for non-serious answers about stuff they hardly know about so they can wank the verse is the bigger issue. They're trying to take claims that likely aren't even viable/trustworthy to try to inflate the cosmology or power of the verse.Except the people asking the Dragon Ball people questions are asking irrelevant authorities, it would make sense if they asked writers or authorities like that but they’re not.
The question was about the Sonic verse. By default the presumption is that the question is about the verse. It'd be the equivalent of saying "Hey, in Sonic, is Maginaryworld able to encompass every concept in Sonic?". It's entirely redundant to add that when the question in question is about the series in question. There's nothing semantical about it. This is just common practice when discussing topics. We naturally assume the person is referring to the topic in question, that being the series of Sonic.The question asked if all sizes and concepts existed in Fourth Dimensional Space not if all sizes and concepts that exists in Sonic exists in Fourth Dimensional Space this is a semantical goon argument and I personally think you’d need to be in denial to think otherwise. Both assertions made are logical but the difference is how each assertion ties into what the question asker said and meant and my assertion actually does that.
Which is alright. I just wanna see more people waste their time and money to try and get unreliable statements to try and wank a verse.Plus even if we say you’re right, the concepts that were already confirmed to exist in Sonic would make MaginaryWorld Tier 1-0 easy.
And what’s the source? I don’t remember seeing it.You forgot the one I showed earlier
Aside from that, yeah.
If I said all concepts didn't exist in Sonic, my mistake. But I clarified in the comment before the one you replied to here that neither could be true without evidence. So this didn't just come out of left field:
Perhaps it would've been better to bold it in the initial comment, but I know a lot of people find it redundant for me to bold messages I refrained from it this time around.
Contrary evidence of every single concept that exists in the world. I'd be here forever in order to do that. Besides, not every concept would have visible contradictions. It'd be like asking me to prove there's not an mouse somewhere off in space 34 lightyears away from Sonic's planet.
That is entirely proof by fallacy. Your example also isn't very comparable. What you're saying is that since we saw an Octopus in Sonic's world, that every animal that exists in our world exists in Sonic's. In the case of just Octopus', sure, it's common sense since the Octopus would need bare minimum parents in order to exist and thus multiple would logically exist.
That's only part of the issue. Them harassing them for non-serious answers about stuff they hardly know about so they can wank the verse is the bigger issue. They're trying to take claims that likely aren't even viable/trustworthy to try to inflate the cosmology or power of the verse.
The question was about the Sonic verse. By default the presumption is that the question is about the verse. It'd be the equivalent of saying "Hey, in Sonic, is Maginaryworld able to encompass every concept in Sonic?". It's entirely redundant to add that when the question in question is about the series in question. There's nothing semantical about it. This is just common practice when discussing topics. We naturally assume the person is referring to the topic in question, that being the series of Sonic.
Which is alright. I just wanna see more people waste their time and money to try and get unreliable statements to try and wank a verse.
And what’s the source? I don’t remember seeing it.
Oh, the context doesn’t fit the latter.
Alright.
You wouldn’t be here forever, regardless if you’re going to assert something you have to prove it otherwise it’s Hitchens Razor regardless of how long it would take. The mouse example doesn’t work because there would need to be reason to assert there is a mouse out there, there’s a possibility that there is a mouse out there but asserting that it’s correct because it’s possible would be appeal to possibility would it not?
So you’re now going to say I claimed something I never said? I never said every ANIMAL exists in Sonic’s world by proxy of one octopus existing, I said an entire species of octopus exists in Sonic by proxy of an octopus being shown to exist that’s common sense. Things like the concepts of duality and plurality (which basically contains every other concept) is implied to exist by Ian
My issue is they’re not even linking up the right authority although what you said also holds true.
Like I said, what we both said is logical, both interpretations are tie and knot in terms of how they can tie into the context of the question. It would just be best to ask the original question asker what he/she meant then go around in circles.
Yeah but should I really note some of the things that would put the verse at Tier 1-0?
Concepts of Higher Dimensions
Concepts Of Physical Dimensions
Dimensions within Dimensions
All concepts of Sets and Sequences
Concepts of Mathematics
Concepts Of Arithmetic
Concepts of Numbers
Concepts of Logical Operators
Concepts of Duality and Plurality
Level 4 Multiverse
Concepts of Parallel Universes
Transfinite Mathematics
Modal Realism
I’m not sure if I named everything but you get the general idea. Sonic doesn’t need all concepts to get Tier 1-0 but your thoughts are fair enough.
No. I don’t even know who that is. My knowledge comes from the Tier 1-0 Sonic document that was posted here a few days ago it has what was just mentioned.who you are,wixzers from csap?
ah okNo. I don’t even know who that is. My knowledge comes from the Tier 1-0 Sonic document that was posted here a few days ago it has what was just mentioned.
You agree with it?No. I don’t even know who that is. My knowledge comes from the Tier 1-0 Sonic document that was posted here a few days ago it has what was just mentioned.
i think is obvios yesYou agree with it?
Personally I think some of the methods used to tie some things together is goony but it’s overall fine. I don’t think this site is going to accept it but it’s good for research.You agree with it?
I did use arguments from there but I wouldn’t say it was obvious.i think is obvios yes
Fair enough.Personally I think some of the methods used to tie some things together is goony but it’s overall fine. I don’t think this site is going to accept it but it’s good for research.
I think you can reliably argue Low 1-C to 1-C Sonic with it.
Platonic Forms are 1-A in most sites not Low 1-C to 1-C. But I agree we should move up the ladder one or two at a time.Maybe focus on getting game to 2-A before starting on platonic concepts.
sonic prime.Platonic Forms are 1-A in most sites not Low 1-C to 1-C. But I agree we should move up the ladder one or two at a time.
Someone should make a content revision thread on 2-A Sonic on Endless Possibilities and Modal Realism (which would make those possibilities actual worlds) existing in Sonic. Then we can talk about moving up.
Lets say he was: that would still be 2-A. Concepts of Parallel Universes exists in Sonic as well with the fourth dimension book which you can argue is canon.I feel Ian was referring more to the concept of parallel universes existing in general, rather than a many worlds theory equivalent
Got a scan?sonic prime.
there is a apparences of a ancient creature who is part of a clan that is in charge of the paradox prism,he says:
the shatterverse is a much bigger place than you think, there are not 10, nor 20, nor 100, nor a thousand, it is like a crystal that generates infinite reflections,but the same crystal is increased into infinite
literraly i invented,just for a example,Got a scan?
Oh.literraly i invented,just for a example,
I say that there will be a maximum of 20
Why would that be true, parallel universes existing doesn’t mean there’s an infinite amount by default.Lets say he was: that would still be 2-A. Concepts of Parallel Universes exists in Sonic as well with the fourth dimension book which you can argue is canon.
He said there was Infinite Possibilities, why wouldn’t there be an infinite amount of them?Why would that be true, parallel universes existing doesn’t mean there’s an infinite amount by default.
ahBecause I don’t think he was saying that the possibilities equated to universes
He’s used Infinite/Endless Possibilities before on his old forum to say that the Multiverse is infinite so doubtfulBecause I don’t think he was saying that the possibilities equated to universes
Why would that matter? He still used infinite possibilities to say the multiverse itself is infinite. So if infinite possibilities is what makes a multiverse infinite in his eyes and he says Game Sonic has infinite possibilities then that refers to universes most likely.This is for Archie.
In addition he’s also used infinite possibilities to describe the multiverseWhy would that matter? He still used infinite possibilities to say the multiverse itself is infinite. So if infinite possibilities is what makes a multiverse infinite in his eyes and he says Game Sonic has infinite possibilities then that refers to universes most likely.
Can you prove that?Endless possibilities could just not lead to endless universes in game, a differentiation from Archie