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Shido just lost against Dante. Give this poor man a break. Goku wins.
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Son Goku vs Shido Itsuka
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This thread was made before Shido vs Dante.ArgosaxDespair said:
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This thread was made before Shido vs Dante.
I know. But Shido vs Dante is already concluded.
I know. But Shido vs Dante is already concluded.
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Wait hol up.
Aren't we forgetting some angels (Haniel and Gabriel)
Shido uses Gabriel a lot which is mind control, stat amp and etc.
Shido can use Raphael to blow back the ki blasts or Use Ice shields to block them Which he does in Character a lot. (he uses Gabriel, Raphael, and Zadkiel a lot)
Then there's Zafkiel and I'm not touching that yet.
Aren't we forgetting some angels (Haniel and Gabriel)
Shido uses Gabriel a lot which is mind control, stat amp and etc.
Shido can use Raphael to blow back the ki blasts or Use Ice shields to block them Which he does in Character a lot. (he uses Gabriel, Raphael, and Zadkiel a lot)
Then there's Zafkiel and I'm not touching that yet.
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Grace is over, but I need sleep.
Someone can discuss from here.
Someone can discuss from here.
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I'll add it to Shido's page, I guess someone can request for Goku's page to be unlocked.
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Wait-
Someone answer me
Someone answer me
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I guess? I'm honestly not super caught up with the LNs at the moment. Ionliosite or Casuality could answer for you though.HyperNepsy said:
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I guess Mind Control won't work on Goku because he fights by instincts without the need to use his mind, but this is a bit iffy.HyperNepsy said:
If he blow back the Ki blasts Goku will dodge them and the ice will likely be broken and also hit Shido.
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No mindhax would absolutely work, instinctive reactions still require a Brain for Instinct
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Yeah, but how likely is it that he will use it as a leading move? I know he has done it before (but he has lead basically with every one of his abilities, so, meh).
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Shido in Character regardless of the opponent uses mutiple ice shields anywhere he needs to dodge. (Ex: he summoned one behind him to dodge to blow and protect mukuro)
And he uses Raphael to push back attacks and people.
Shido uses 3 angels the most in most of his fights which are Zadkiel, Raphael, and Gabriel.
He'll try and mindhax Goku for sure. If that dosen't work he'll use haniel
I really don't see how Goku won when Shido has all this against him.
And he uses Raphael to push back attacks and people.
Shido uses 3 angels the most in most of his fights which are Zadkiel, Raphael, and Gabriel.
He'll try and mindhax Goku for sure. If that dosen't work he'll use haniel
I really don't see how Goku won when Shido has all this against him.
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Goku just punches through the shields.
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And Raphael won't work to push back someone much more powerful than him such as Goku.
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According to the other post shido starts off with Death manip
Which Goku dosen't resist
Which Goku dosen't resist
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Causality saying Shido leads with death manip: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3262894#49
However, Goku can throw a ki blast and kill him.
However, Goku can throw a ki blast and kill him.
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I just want to say, my vote never got counted
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Don't worry, grace ended hours ago.Duedate8898 said:
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The fact that shido can block the Ki blast and push it away. He can use mutiple angels at one time.
He can still use death manip and beat goku
He can still use death manip and beat goku
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I'm talking about when it was still going on, I was completely ignored
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How will he block the ki blast? The huge AP diference means his ice shield will break, Raphael won't be able to do anything to an attack thousands of time stronger than anything Shido can do, and trying to tank it will kill him.
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By the way, how can you even say that their AP Difference is so big. Isn't calculating whose stronger impossible at this pont because their both just universe level+.
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Technically Shido has Immortality type 3 but it wasn't talked about completely.
If he got hit by it camael would regenerate it.
Shido can summon mutiple ice shields and use the winds and while the ki blasts are going through that he can just dodge.
Then death manip gg
If he got hit by it camael would regenerate it.
Shido can summon mutiple ice shields and use the winds and while the ki blasts are going through that he can just dodge.
Then death manip gg
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No, if he got hit, he would die. Camael is only mid regen, strong enough ki can negate mid-high rege. Many ice shields aren't protecting him from someone who's thousands of times stronger than him.
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The many ice shields are gonna help him be able to dodge. Then he uses death
And those are only Ki blasts. Not Kamehameha waves
And those are only Ki blasts. Not Kamehameha waves
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How are the Ice Shields slowing down someone around 1000x times stronger?
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Im saying the Ice shields, mutiple of them will give him time to dodge. And even if he didn't, shido is not gonna stand there and take a ki blast. He has Origami's automatic teleportation aswell.
Shido can use death manip and call it a day.
Or he can just stretch out the fight till Goku loses stamina, shido can Transmute attacks aswell if he can't teleport out of her way.
Shido can use death manip and call it a day.
Or he can just stretch out the fight till Goku loses stamina, shido can Transmute attacks aswell if he can't teleport out of her way.
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Again, 1000x times is an extreme low-ball.
PD: The final "ha" in Kamehameha means wave, so saying "Kamehameha waves" is plain wrong.
Those ki blasts have enough AP to vaporize Shido, his ice, and whatever he can throw at Goku. Deathhax is only going to work if he's able to use it, but Son-kun can one-shot him from a distance and that's exactly what he'll do.HyperNepsy said:
PD: The final "ha" in Kamehameha means wave, so saying "Kamehameha waves" is plain wrong.
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There's still Gabriel, Haniel, and metatron.
Then death.
Then death.
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Goku leads with Danmaku which means Metatron is moot here. Stat amping with Gabriel won't get him anywhere near Son's level.
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Who said anything about stat amp?
Shido can unconsciously teleport around with metatron and when he sees more he can Transmute with Haniel into "pop" or boom or something.
Shido can unconsciously teleport around with metatron and when he sees more he can Transmute with Haniel into "pop" or boom or something.
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He'll be dead before he can use Haniel. Literally everything Goku does kills him. Also, Metatron has a pretty obvious weakness that works on Son's favour.
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He wouldn't be dead. There's still a thing called dodging, speed is equal.
Shido can still use Haniel to Transmute to protect himself
Shido can still use Haniel to Transmute to protect himself
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Why would he be able to block ki blast when they're stupidly above him in AP? Using multiple at once would just cause Goku to go AoE.HyperNepsy said:
Goku dies, is sent to otherworld then uses his instant transmission to return back he's already shown before with IT he can cross universal distances.
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I actually just got word that Shido's death manip is a ray, that makes it even worse due to Goku's instinctive reaction. Instictively teleports behind shido and roundhouses him.
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Haniel doesn't matter. Causality said Shido leads with deathhax, which are just some light rays Goku can dodge anytime he wants and then one-shot him.
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