Son Goku vs Sanji Vinsmoke

[Nierre]

The AP advantage isn't that massive that it could be considered a win condition nor knock out Goku temporarily even if Sanji lands a few hits Goku gets up and beats him up, considering that he has insane pain tolerance and other advantages, I really fail to see how a small AP Advantage for Sanji is the deciding factor in this.

Sanji ALSO has insane pain tolerance, and iirc this Goku doesn't actually have pain tolerance. In fact I dont think Goku even has that on his profile.

we going to conveniently ignore the conversation you had with Monkey?

My argument has nothing to do with whether or not Goku is more skilled than Sanji. My argument was that Goku is skilled. Or are we going to conveniently ignore the whole point of my argument with Monkey? I recognize that Sanji is less skilled than Goku, but that doesn't remove the fact that Sanji still has wincons.

To say that Goku, according to you guys fought dozens of skilled material artists who had over 60 years of experience, also being trained by a super skilled material artist how is Sanji consistently going to land a hit on someone like him?

Because it's speed equal. Sanji still has far better stamina than Goku and better showings of pain tolerance at this point im fairly sure, so he can fight long enough to tire Goku out. That's a valid wincon, even if it takes longer than Goku's.


If ya'll want, I can change it to Krillin or Yamcha if yall think this is too much. However I still think Sanji has a chance.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I'm 94% right in everything... That's all I'm going to say... But that's 68% in being right

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

If ya'll want, I can change it to Krillin or Yamcha if yall think this is too much. However I still think Sanji has

I don't think anything will change, except the absence of the power pole and nimbus which doesn't change a lot, yamcha and krillin have similar skill feats to Goku.

 

[Vizer04]

King Kong FRA

 

[Sonicflare9]

goku fra

 

[Nierre]

I don't think anything will change, except the absence of the power pole and nimbus which doesn't change a lot, yamcha and krillin have similar skill feats to Goku.

Fair. But Yamcha's super cocky/arrogant so maybe that'll amount to something..? maybe, maybe not..

 

[RazumaHiroki]

Fair. But Yamcha's super cocky/arrogant so maybe that'll amount to something..? maybe, maybe not..

Isn't Yamcha also ridiculously skilled? but yeah, is a lot fairer than Goku vs Sanji.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Isn't Yamcha also ridiculously skilled? but yeah, is a lot fairer than Goku vs Sanji.

It's more fair definitely, though the outcome likely doesn't change. Yamcha still has range and skill which counter LS and AP so that doesn't make a stomp.

 

[RazumaHiroki]

It's more fair definitely, though the outcome likely doesn't change. Yamcha still has range and skill which counter LS and AP so that doesn't make a stomp.

Figured.

 

[Kachon123]

Voting Goku

 

[Legion350]

The matchup doesn’t work anymore, since Sanji was upgraded. He one shots now and this should be closed

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Oh I forgot about that....

Thought it was never going to be done

 

[RazumaHiroki]

The matchup doesn’t work anymore, since Sanji was upgraded. He one shots now and this should be closed

The changes were supposed to be implemented weeks ago. Honestly, i've completely forgotten about the skypia revision and the reason they are waiting in the first place.

 

[Nierre]

The matchup doesn’t work anymore, since Sanji was upgraded. He one shots now and this should be closed

Finally.. goodness those revisions took ages..

Anyways yeah this can be closed