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What duplication issue?CrossverseCrisis said:Alright. Took care of the duplication issue so this can stay...
Okay thanks. (Leaves for one minute and this happens!)CrossverseCrisis said:There was like two other threads of the one you made here seen on my screen and had to remove them. Thankfully it didn't affect your main thread here so you don't have to worry about it.
AnimeFanboy2916 said:Anyone else have a vote?
Other than his speed, no.Sora'sOther said:Does goku have anything to protect aganist matter transimation or matter Manipulation?
Like I said above, he's never to my knowledge used his Molecular Manipulation on anybody in combat, so it's shaky ground, it's likely that either he can't use it on someone who is powerful enough or he doesn't like using it due to moralsSora'sOther said:Does goku have anything to protect aganist matter transimation or matter Manipulation?
Isn't the rule 7 votes or more? Has there been 7?FanofRPGs said:I agree Goku wins this, due to a combination of higher speed and higher power. Atomic manipulation will not work, especially since it sounds like he either jobs with it or does not like to use it.
Should this be added?
oh wait, yeahAnimeFanboy2916 said:Isn't the rule 7 votes or more? Has there been 7?FanofRPGs said:I agree Goku wins this, due to a combination of higher speed and higher power. Atomic manipulation will not work, especially since it sounds like he either jobs with it or does not like to use it.
Should this be added?
Whoa, whoa, whoa. How is he several HUNDRED times above solar system level?SSJGamer99 said:I agree Goku wins here, being at least several hundred times above solar system level, and being faster. Plus, he is an amazing fighter, having trained with and learned from gods of single planets to the entire universe.
I am going by the Super Saiyan Multipliers. And going by the rate of increase already before the Buu Saga. His base should be around Large Star Level+ in base during the Buu Saga, and maybe even the lowest end of Solar System Level. And as a Super Saiyan 3, his stats are multiplied by 400. So he is at least dozens of times above Solar System Level, and at most 400x above it.The real cal howard said:Whoa, whoa, whoa. How is he several HUNDRED times above solar system level?SSJGamer99 said:I agree Goku wins here, being at least several hundred times above solar system level, and being faster. Plus, he is an amazing fighter, having trained with and learned from gods of single planets to the entire universe.
I think you're talking about power levels rather than multipliersThe real cal howard said:I'll give dozens, MAYBE, as Cell is just a claim, and we have to assume that he is barely qualifiying for SS levels. Multipliers become unreliable after the Frieza Saga, and we're not entirely sure that his base got that much stronger, as Super is proving that base is unreliable, and giving unknowns with base forms.
Regardless, Goku still wins this via speed.