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wouldnt this give Yhwach Low Godly regen?
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Some Stuff About Lille and Gerard
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Shadowbokunohero said:
Yes but remember he doesn't use the Sternritter abilities. So it'd be irrelevant unless the OP let him use them.
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RIP as if Yhwach wasnt haxed enough
lol OvO
lol OvO
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Once Bleach JET comes out he's probably gonna become more haxxed tbh.
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Inb4 Kubo nerfs some characters somehow.
So, how are we gonna explain this in Gerard's page? It should be useful against people in the same ballpark of power as him. Well, except they're like Byakuya.
So, how are we gonna explain this in Gerard's page? It should be useful against people in the same ballpark of power as him. Well, except they're like Byakuya.
Yomi_Schwarz
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How about Lille?
Lille's Vollstandig is an extension of his schrift The X-Axis,His Regenerationn is part of it as well by that logic. (Vollstandig literally enhances the X-Axis as it "fuses" with Lille thus he can shoot it from his body now and not from a gun,Which would also explain how only Quincy's with schrifts are capable of using it)
Which means to complete destroy Lille (Same way as Gerard) you'll also need to fully dispose of his soul.
Lille's Vollstandig is an extension of his schrift The X-Axis,His Regenerationn is part of it as well by that logic. (Vollstandig literally enhances the X-Axis as it "fuses" with Lille thus he can shoot it from his body now and not from a gun,Which would also explain how only Quincy's with schrifts are capable of using it)
Which means to complete destroy Lille (Same way as Gerard) you'll also need to fully dispose of his soul.
Yomi_Schwarz
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@Burning
A note at the bottom of his profile would do
"The Miracle Only Activates relative to the emotions of his opponents (Fear,Doubt,Worry etc.) however Adult Toshiro defeated Gerard with Byakuya and Kenpachi's help there was no reason to feel, think or desire fear, yet Gerard returned so it is unclear how the Miracle really works"
IMO the most logical answer to this would be the fact the condition of the miracle is only applied before activation which would explain the entire toshiro situation.
Thoughts?
A note at the bottom of his profile would do
"The Miracle Only Activates relative to the emotions of his opponents (Fear,Doubt,Worry etc.) however Adult Toshiro defeated Gerard with Byakuya and Kenpachi's help there was no reason to feel, think or desire fear, yet Gerard returned so it is unclear how the Miracle really works"
IMO the most logical answer to this would be the fact the condition of the miracle is only applied before activation which would explain the entire toshiro situation.
Thoughts?
Yomi_Schwarz
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It's important to keep in mind that the main combatants against Gerard
Byakuya (Has no sliver of doubt after his Royal guard training and literally countered "The Fear" before his round against Gerard)
Kenpachi (A Mindless Beats at the time devoid of doubt,fear and worry)
Toshiro (Was arrogant in his adult form and showed no signs of fear even when he was grabbed by Gerard,He was also confident in his ability Shikai Hyoketsu to fully dispose of him thus he was surprised at the fact Gerard survived it.he was basically looking down at him the entire time in his adult form)
If we were to apply the condition of the Miracle when vollstandig is activated,it would be contradictory to Gerard's Biggest Fight.
Byakuya (Has no sliver of doubt after his Royal guard training and literally countered "The Fear" before his round against Gerard)
Kenpachi (A Mindless Beats at the time devoid of doubt,fear and worry)
Toshiro (Was arrogant in his adult form and showed no signs of fear even when he was grabbed by Gerard,He was also confident in his ability Shikai Hyoketsu to fully dispose of him thus he was surprised at the fact Gerard survived it.he was basically looking down at him the entire time in his adult form)
If we were to apply the condition of the Miracle when vollstandig is activated,it would be contradictory to Gerard's Biggest Fight.
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I'm sure Hitsugaya did feel something negative when Gerard was essentially saying nope to everything he threw at him.
I think we should explain it in his powers and abilities section, weaknesses, and add a note in his page. That should be enough.
I think we should explain it in his powers and abilities section, weaknesses, and add a note in his page. That should be enough.
Yomi_Schwarz
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We're talking Adult Toshiro.
The only time he lost face was when Gerard reformed his entire body anew.
He was arrogant and looking down on Gerard in his Matured Bankai Form
And if he wasn't he would have at least showed hesitation on his attacks which he didn't since he would think deep inside they wouldnt work.
The only time he lost face was when Gerard reformed his entire body anew.
He was arrogant and looking down on Gerard in his Matured Bankai Form
And if he wasn't he would have at least showed hesitation on his attacks which he didn't since he would think deep inside they wouldnt work.
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Yeah, I'm not actually talking about their initial exchange. Also, there's no way other people couldn't see Gerard with how big he was.
Their own feelings could logically have easily contributed to it as well.
Their own feelings could logically have easily contributed to it as well.
Yomi_Schwarz
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Nobody really cared,literally 5 other major battles were taking place as Gerard was in his god size and nothing from his fight overlapped with the others.
None of the elites really cared about each other and the only shingami present in the fight in wahrwelt were either incapable from battling any further (Visored) or were busy with a battle on their own
The "masses" are clearly limited to the people combating gerard
As i said.
The Condition for the miracle is only active before its activation not during
None of the elites really cared about each other and the only shingami present in the fight in wahrwelt were either incapable from battling any further (Visored) or were busy with a battle on their own
The "masses" are clearly limited to the people combating gerard
As i said.
The Condition for the miracle is only active before its activation not during
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Isn't Lille and Gerard's case is just Immortality Type 8 ?
As long as there is reishi where they fight, they just regenerate.
Besides that, what they showed us is thta Lille regenerated from the particles of himself (Low-High) and Gerard regenerated from being blown into pieces(High-Mid).
But i also got one question. When Toshiro froze Gerard his soul also should have been frozen, so his Miracle has been too. So how did he regenerate even after his Miracle also got frozen ? Technically he shouldn't have been able to used it.
And Regenerationn must be part of X-Axis and Miracle. Because while Askin can't even regenerate his heart, Lille and Gerard both regenerated after being decapitated.
As long as there is reishi where they fight, they just regenerate.
Besides that, what they showed us is thta Lille regenerated from the particles of himself (Low-High) and Gerard regenerated from being blown into pieces(High-Mid).
But i also got one question. When Toshiro froze Gerard his soul also should have been frozen, so his Miracle has been too. So how did he regenerate even after his Miracle also got frozen ? Technically he shouldn't have been able to used it.
And Regenerationn must be part of X-Axis and Miracle. Because while Askin can't even regenerate his heart, Lille and Gerard both regenerated after being decapitated.
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Just because he made a new body doesn't give him Low-Godly. Was his original body 100% destroyed?
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All of this is just a meaningless word salad. Was his original body destroyed on a sub-atomic level even? Or are you just assuming because they used words like "Completely destroyed", which hold no weight with further context to properly analyze what it means. Ice by itself cannot completely destroy you on a sub-atomic level.
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His legs were still intact after Byakuya destroyed his frozen body.
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So that isn't even Mid-High.
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This is a NLF. His best reformation feat isn't 100% physical destruction.
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His whole body wasn't destroyed, almost half of it was intact. You haven't shown any proof of complete Regenerationn.
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Those are not the scans that are being talked about here @Kep
It's this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260085518602076161/454351533157646357/gNnjs8I.jpg
Gerard didn't regenerate from whats left of him but he reshaped his entire body from environmental reishi.
Gerard's schrift came from his soul,Thus for the Miracle to be completely eradicated you would need to logically destroy his soul
IMade explains this in detail.
It's this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260085518602076161/454351533157646357/gNnjs8I.jpg
Gerard didn't regenerate from whats left of him but he reshaped his entire body from environmental reishi.
Gerard's schrift came from his soul,Thus for the Miracle to be completely eradicated you would need to logically destroy his soul
IMade explains this in detail.
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That would be the case if he regenerated from the legs which he didntHomu Sweet Homu said:
Check the scans again pls
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@Kal
I think a Question and answer thread is in order for you
That would be sidelining from the main point here.
I think a Question and answer thread is in order for you
That would be sidelining from the main point here.
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The X-Axis is effortless piercing,you can't completely dodge normally because there isn't anything to dodge since it has no travel time,it can't be blocked because there is nothing to block since it just pierces.
I don't know every ability in fiction so I'm sure there are certain things that can counter it for example the shot somewhat aim dodged but it still hit the person just another part of the body,Regenerationn can counter it if no fatal damage is done,and things like Alakazam's shield from what I've been told in his versus battle involving Lille.
It's just a really good durability ignoring power.
I don't know every ability in fiction so I'm sure there are certain things that can counter it for example the shot somewhat aim dodged but it still hit the person just another part of the body,Regenerationn can counter it if no fatal damage is done,and things like Alakazam's shield from what I've been told in his versus battle involving Lille.
It's just a really good durability ignoring power.
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i thought we already agreed his regen was High
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Nothing of that new scan indicates Low-Godly or even High.
Yomi_Schwarz
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But why?
>Capable of regenerating from reishi particles
>The Miracle is supposed to be active as long as Gerard's soul is not destoryed as the letter M,His Schrift is carved in it.
>Capable of regenerating from reishi particles
>The Miracle is supposed to be active as long as Gerard's soul is not destoryed as the letter M,His Schrift is carved in it.
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Low Godly comes from the fact that Gerard was not regenerating chunks of his previous body. He simply made a new body afterwards made of Reishi and got killed by the Auswählen.
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@Yomi
I'm talking about the Visored and the other Shinigami.
I'm talking about the Visored and the other Shinigami.
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reishi is spirit particles which would make this high regen not low because you regenerate from either your mind or out of nothing at all but we see him regen from spirit particles which makes this high regen
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The soul is his body my dude. If all of his Reishi was destroyed he wouldn't have anything left to regenerate from.
This is High Regen at best.
This is High Regen at best.
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yeah i agree it fits high regen. For something like low godly regen and above we usually would need a statement about how someone regenerated from complete body destruction using just their mind or conscious
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Quincy aren't souls like Shinigami and Hollows are. He has a legit body.
