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But he still has a point. Arguing that this isn't a resistance only because a higher dimensional being would outright ignore it it's not a proof against said resistance.
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Some resistances and immunities for Brook
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@Nedge I think you missed my point. Limited Immunity or resistance if you'd like to Biological manipulation for a skeleton is the same immunity/resistance to biological manipulation for a Robot.
We know that the ability logically won't affect them but we don't use that as a reason to add immunity/resistance to the profile every robot since it's pointless. Same thing should apply here.
@Calaca What power is this that a robot has again?
We know that the ability logically won't affect them but we don't use that as a reason to add immunity/resistance to the profile every robot since it's pointless. Same thing should apply here.
@Calaca What power is this that a robot has again?
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There's Cyborgization but apparently we have no page for robots or androids. Weird.
Brook isn't a robot. He's a living being (even if it sounds unreal), so things such as Kurapika's heart-targetting chain (for example) wouldn't work on Brook, or Lelouch's Geass.
If we're going to erase every obvious thing in profiles we should remove Superhuman Physical Characteristics for every single character who's stronger than Peak Human because tier already says that.
Brook isn't a robot. He's a living being (even if it sounds unreal), so things such as Kurapika's heart-targetting chain (for example) wouldn't work on Brook, or Lelouch's Geass.
If we're going to erase every obvious thing in profiles we should remove Superhuman Physical Characteristics for every single character who's stronger than Peak Human because tier already says that.
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This doesn't apply to just robots. Any character who isn't made of flesh or bones are immune to biological manipulation.
If you are adamant about giving him limited immunity then fine, this isn't really a big deal either way.
Also not really, tier doesn't exclusively talk about physical strength so it doesn't make it obvious if you Superhuman physical characteristics.
If you are adamant about giving him limited immunity then fine, this isn't really a big deal either way.
Also not really, tier doesn't exclusively talk about physical strength so it doesn't make it obvious if you Superhuman physical characteristics.
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I get your points but there are important distinctions. Robots aren't to skeletons as are still composed of Organic matter which any with Biological Manipulation can affects. Robots, in most case, are not. In my first, response with the definition, you stated that you didn't know so I posted the definition to help. Likewise, I asked you a question for your point of view and giving your mine. I guess this link quote is your answers so thanks. In insight, I probably should have stated sooner that I wanted to help; it is just that "@Nedge Your point?" caught me off guard. In any case, my mistake for the confusion, Andytrenom.Andytrenom said:
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Just because they don't have this listed doesn't mean we shouldn't. IDK.
Considering the 99.9% of characters have their tier based on their SPC it's more obvious than it isn't.
Considering the 99.9% of characters have their tier based on their SPC it's more obvious than it isn't.
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@Nedge Lol, "i don't know" was about whether Brook should have immunity added. I do know what the definition of immunity is.
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I saw that thread a while ago but I don't know if it went to any conclusion.
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Lol, sorry for the misunderstanding and I am glad that we clear it, Andytrenom!Andytrenom said:
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Happy New Year to all of you.
Don't worry. I'll continue this thread until we reach a conclusion.
Don't worry. I'll continue this thread until we reach a conclusion.
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Basically, when it comes to Brook, killing him is very difficult in the first place.
There's only 2 actual ways to kill him (without looking at hax in general), and that's destroying by his body (shattering his bones, so anyone with higher AP than his Dura could do so. Without a soul, he has no vessel, and will simply be unable to return to it), or destroying his soul.
I might be wrong in some regard, as i do vaguely remember him being knocked unconscious at a few points, unless he was playing possum.
Which reminds me, the profile should mention his ability to manipulate separate parts of his body in order to re-connect them, like he did when he was decapitated on 2 different occasions post time-skip.
There's only 2 actual ways to kill him (without looking at hax in general), and that's destroying by his body (shattering his bones, so anyone with higher AP than his Dura could do so. Without a soul, he has no vessel, and will simply be unable to return to it), or destroying his soul.
I might be wrong in some regard, as i do vaguely remember him being knocked unconscious at a few points, unless he was playing possum.
Which reminds me, the profile should mention his ability to manipulate separate parts of his body in order to re-connect them, like he did when he was decapitated on 2 different occasions post time-skip.
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So the ability to manipulateseparate parts of his body should be listed as Body Control.
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I'm obviously agree with Limited Immunity to Durability negation with a proper description (like Lack of Blood Manip, Biological stuff)
Plus, a Resistance to Mind manipulation is fine since he doesn't have brain (Mind control user like Ikki shouldn't be able to Conrol brook because they manipulate the brain to brainwash)
Plus, a Resistance to Mind manipulation is fine since he doesn't have brain (Mind control user like Ikki shouldn't be able to Conrol brook because they manipulate the brain to brainwash)
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I've found this from Viz's scans.
Is it enough to give him Longevity at the very least and Type 2 Self-Sustenance?
Is it enough to give him Longevity at the very least and Type 2 Self-Sustenance?
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I mean, he is undead, shouldn't he already have them already.
Another ability for Brook could be Resistance to Cold Manipulation ( able to traverse Punk Hazard's frozen terrain without any signs of discomfort, while the rest of the Straw Hats were shivering in comparison and Resistance to Poison Manipulation (carried a petrified Kin'emon out of the new H2S compound without much incident, or before, when one of Smiley's blobs hissed gas on his face, he wasn't affected)
Could be that Brook is resistance to damage that don't physical harm his body, given these resistances of his.
Another ability for Brook could be Resistance to Cold Manipulation ( able to traverse Punk Hazard's frozen terrain without any signs of discomfort, while the rest of the Straw Hats were shivering in comparison and Resistance to Poison Manipulation (carried a petrified Kin'emon out of the new H2S compound without much incident, or before, when one of Smiley's blobs hissed gas on his face, he wasn't affected)
Could be that Brook is resistance to damage that don't physical harm his body, given these resistances of his.
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That 'weakness' has never been relevant outside of that one fight.
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