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According Shin in the manga Vegito is stronger than Beerus.
I just want to know what people make of this and if it would effect anything.
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So apparently Blue Vegito is stronger than Beerus in the manga
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According Shin in the manga Vegito is stronger than Beerus.
I just want to know what people make of this and if it would effect anything.
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We take the anime as canon over the manga but even if we accepted this nothing would really change, it'd just cement Fusion Zamasu > Beerus
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How dose supreme kai even know Beerus full power
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This doesn't really contradict anything, but I don't really trust in Shin's word, he was the ones that though that Pui Pui was much for Vegeta.
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Ist Blue Vegoto > Beerus anyway?
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@Joseph @antonio while you are right, one can argue author intent here aswell. Someone had to say it if it was going to be mentioned
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Welp, the Pui Pui part was contradicted that time, while here remain without being contradicted/reconneted, I think it can be used then, but I would put him being comparable, not far superior, M Zamasu will remain weaker than Beerus, he oly survived due immortality.
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Exactly what I was thinking. I mean by this logic then Future Trunks at his rage power up should be stronger than Beerus as well.
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I mean, the manga isn't canon anyway, so this doesn't really affect much.
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This at best would move Vegito to the Top tiers
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Didn't Akira say that M zamasu > beerus though?Antoniofer said:
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In all honesty the manga is more canon then the anime is. Toriyama gives both of them a draft page and then toei works around it as a base idea. However Toriyama has been said to have been working with toyotaro and geta his ideas from him personally.
As for the people inevitably saying "the manga is a adaption of the anime", it is not. The manga used to be ahead of the anime.
Im not saying change the way we rate the canonicity of the anime here but it's just food for thought.
As for the people inevitably saying "the manga is a adaption of the anime", it is not. The manga used to be ahead of the anime.
Im not saying change the way we rate the canonicity of the anime here but it's just food for thought.
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"The manga used to be ahead of the anime."
Yes, because it started first and skipped an entire arc.
Yes, because it started first and skipped an entire arc.
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Whats your point?
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The fact that that doesn't invalidate the manga being an adaptation of the anime if it only got so ahead by skipping stuff.
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The producer also stated that Merged Zamasu is stronger than Beerus. So this isn't impossible.
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Errr, the manga was initially always infront of the anime. The anime then caught up and then the manga skipped the frieza arc.
Not that it changes anything, you cant create a adaption of something if it doesnt even exist yet.
Not that it changes anything, you cant create a adaption of something if it doesnt even exist yet.
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The manga is the blueprint, but it actually does whatever it wants changing stuff from the anime to the point of even ******* entire character motivations. It also has a frenetic pace and skips through a lot of stuff.
Point being, the Super manga is a promotion for the anime.
Point being, the Super manga is a promotion for the anime.
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He never said that he called fusion zumas a cheat characterMatthew Schroeder said:
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Promotion is the accurate word. Neither is an adaptation of each other. They use each other as reference from arc to arcMatthew Schroeder said:
Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotarō-sensei's manga as reference.
At this point, I'm not very involved with it. I think going forward, I'll be more involved, but at this point in time, I actually receive more information from the anime team than I give to them. The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them. Regardless, we'll continue to support one another as we go forward.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translati...-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579
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Still, the manga is a joke, Zamasu's Divine Judgment consists of throwing cubes at the opponent, ******* stupid.
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In my opinion, both manga and anime are equal as canon as DBZ anime: the three are adaptations, but since DBS doesn't have an original work (Toriyama didn't made a manga of his outline), both manga and anime could be considered primary canon; the only think that separate manga from primary canon is cuz in some new said that is promotional, however, it was the same new that said that it was an anime adaptation, something that isn't true.
In this case, if came first or later, shouldn't determinate the primary canon, and if the story is stupid neither: I can say that the anime is a non canon cuz Beerus think that making a push-up per second is impressive.
In this case, if came first or later, shouldn't determinate the primary canon, and if the story is stupid neither: I can say that the anime is a non canon cuz Beerus think that making a push-up per second is impressive.
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Toyotaro was named Toriyama's successor.
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@Dark thats not how secondary canon works, as long as it doesnt contradict the primary canon it can be used.
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Wut does that have to do with Vegito?
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The scene has 0 to with if Vegito is stronger than Beerus and not only does it not contradict the anime but it also matches with wut the producer said about Merged Zamasu.
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what are you talking about? he never said that.RadicalMrR said:
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He refered to Zamasu as a "cheat" character and compared him to Beerus.
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yes a cheat and said beerus was stronger in raw power and later we found out said cheast weren't as good as peapeal thout.RadicalMrR said:
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He never said that Merged Zamasu and Beerus are comparable.RadicalMrR said:
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Well u guys can scale Vegito however u like but I wanna point out that what is supposed to be secondary canon is being treated like non canon.
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shouldn't it be that both should be considered canon unless the manga contradicts the anime in a certain instance ?, i mean we have a boruto anime and manga and we both treat them as canon.
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Well, the manga regularly changes parts of the story, including that the Zamasus could not fuse permanently in this case. I do not think that we can use it.
As for Boruto, I think that we currently use the manga as canon, as it continues after the movie.
As for Boruto, I think that we currently use the manga as canon, as it continues after the movie.
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