Jamesthetaker
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Did a quick math, it yielded a result of 50-ish tons, but the actual result may vary depending on factors such as the height and angle of the throw.
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SNK Games Discussion Thread
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I see, good to know....
Jamesthetaker
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Another calc done for KOF
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Kinda expected 7-A at least, but eh, also just heads up dont even engage continuum, he doesnt understand anything about any of these verses or site in general unless told, even if told wont grasp it fully still so ignore him
Tonygameman
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Jamesthetaker
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Another calc accepted. This is a fairly large update.
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And here comes arguments like "its just environmental dmg"
Tonygameman
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"Feast your eyes"
"Heeey...what are you looking at? Up here"
"Mai from Fatal Fury promises to warm you up when she bounces in to #StreetFighter6 on February 5. Don't keep her waiting or she'll use her ninja trickery on you"
Capcom out here going in deep with this
"Heeey...what are you looking at? Up here"
"Mai from Fatal Fury promises to warm you up when she bounces in to #StreetFighter6 on February 5. Don't keep her waiting or she'll use her ninja trickery on you"
Capcom out here going in deep with this
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https://media.**********.net/attachments/1082316540034171020/1329041380022030396/Untitled.jpg?ex=6788e5bd&is=6787943d&hm=6ed3daeefb60ac45b9d2c6baea6868dc9485aad89acb95bedaff22a4830304e0&
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What a taunt
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Some scenes from her arcade mode, she looks very cute in that art style they drew her
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Her lvl 3 if she is low on health is more cooler
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Jamesthetaker
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Hey guys, if it is not too much to ask for opinions, I would like to hear your thoughts on something because I plan to touch KOF '94 in the next revision, but there is a problem:
As far as I can remember, the game has few to no AP feats or anything else that can yield AP. The only visible destruction is Black Noah's self-destruction, but the calc I have done for it are said to be far too based on assumptions.
Currently, I have two options on my mind right now: 1. Put the AP for KOF '94 key as 9-C per all fighters having peak human strength. 2. Merge the KOF '94 key with the Orochi Saga key, as it is only a prologue to that one. Or 3. If you guys notice anything AP-worthy, please let me know because I may have missed it or have not considered it yet.
As far as I can remember, the game has few to no AP feats or anything else that can yield AP. The only visible destruction is Black Noah's self-destruction, but the calc I have done for it are said to be far too based on assumptions.
Currently, I have two options on my mind right now: 1. Put the AP for KOF '94 key as 9-C per all fighters having peak human strength. 2. Merge the KOF '94 key with the Orochi Saga key, as it is only a prologue to that one. Or 3. If you guys notice anything AP-worthy, please let me know because I may have missed it or have not considered it yet.
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Tonygameman
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I'm pretty sure the second option (Orochi Saga) is in your earlier shared plan regarding keys.
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I feel like it should be mixed with Orochi Saga especially since it connects to previous stuff honestly
Either you say KOF 94/Orochi Saga or simply Orochi Saga without saying 94 separately
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Although the computers or machines Rugal can skate with you against i assume isnt impressive in terms of feats right? Also given FF/AOF are canon to KOF, shouldnt the cast of latter early on scale to the former? They count them canon till a point Geese didnt die at least
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You mean the Gigantic Pressure move? Yeah, it isn't really impressive.
I'm hesitant to use FF/AOF to scale to KOF because of different canons rules. Even if certain FF/AOF events are referenced or mentioned in KOF, this does not imply that they can scale to each other. But this would not matter because KOF would scale to higher feats anyway (Goenitz's storm and Orochi Yashiro's lava feats).
Oh, and this also means I will extend the revision further because I would need to cover the entire Orochi saga as well.
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Well performed on his stage as the final boss, there are machines in the corners that are breakable
FF/AOF is part of the KOF universe, why shouldnt they scale in early games to them, stuff like ben 10 and gen rex scale to the other as they are canon and so does Street Fighter with other series sharing the canon with them
You calced his storms from 96? Got any link?
Just stats like with kof14/15 right?
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Also if there are issues with the calc, it cant be changed in a way its more acceptable? Or Vzearr thinks it cant be calcable?
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Oh really? Do you have a clip of it?
I'm not too familiar with other verses, but KOF and FF/AOF follow completely different storylines from each other. Not only that, but the character stories deviated from the original games. As I previously said, the KOF side will eventually have better feats to scale, making scaling to FF/AOF insignificant.
It's on the calc section of the verse page, actually.
Yeah, just stats revision for now. Abilities revision might come up later.
Jamesthetaker
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It is calculable. He said that Rugal's surviving the self-destruction is based on assumptions because we don't actually see it happen.
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Not sure if i can find a specific one but i will try
Well i meant this in the case kof94 was its own key
i feel like it should be redone, i seen calcs of it years ago getting more then tier 7 via the stadium size and of goenitz giant tornadoes
I see
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Tbf Rugal is injured from the team that beats him visibly on screen and intention was to kill himself along the team, i think even in nests saga the special boss with Rugal he performs the same suicide blowing the ship thing there too and he just stands there as it blows up, not like he would be moving in time compared to the teams whom arent harmed as him in time
Jamesthetaker
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Thanks
I see, but given your guys suggestions, I will simply merge '94 to the Orochi saga key, unless the mass vote dictates otherwise.
I'll see what I can do.
Jamesthetaker
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That is the idea, but since we do not see how he survived the self-destruction, it is possible that he escaped the ship in time or something. Because there is room for such assumptions, we cannot simply take one and use it as real evidence for Rugal's durability.
This deserves its own discussion thread because I don't believe the calc members will accept this argument so easily.
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Well its kinda redundant now if the scaling will come from the feats in Orochi Saga, assuming Rugal scales to a degree to them
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Jamesthetaker
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Yeah, this look just barely scratch 9-B to me.
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Would have been consistent with FF/AOF, as they are 9-B too
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I’m sure people in this thread have already heard about this but:
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I’m sure people in this thread have already heard about this but:
Was tagged in discord about it so yeah
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Jamesthetaker
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Hey guys, I got some updates on the potential revision:
After reading the Orochi Saga, I discovered something that could affect the scaling and the arc keys. In the KOF '96 Hero Team backstory, Kyo fought Goenitz and was completely destroyed. Even Kyo's most powerful move was ineffective against him.
This implies that there is a significant power gap between '95 and '96.
Then I wonder if Omega Rugal could scale to Orochi's followers, given that he does receive some of Orochi's power. However, there are two reasons why he shouldn't scale to them.
1. The most obvious one is that he was defeated by KOF '95 Kyo, who then stomped by Goenitz, so scaling him to a far more powerful character is out of question. Not to mention that Goenitz easily defeats Rugal, adding to the power gap between these two characters.
2. Rugal received some of Orochi's power and became stronger than his base, but only by an unquantifiable amount. Even Goenitz believes Rugal has no chance with Orochi power, showing that Rugal is clearly not at the Orochi characters level of power.
With that said, I have decided that I will need to separate the KOF '94 and Orochi Saga games into their own keys. It would look something like this:
Tier: TBA | At least TBA to High 6-C
Key: Prologue Chapter (KOF '94) | Chapter of Orochi Saga (KOF '95 to KOF '97)
Attack Potency: TBA (Insert feat here) | At least TBA (Can fight Omega Rugal, who are stronger than before due to Orochi's dark power) to Large Island level (Have fought the Four Heavenly Kings, with Goenitz capable of causing a massive storm and Yashiro capable of flooding mountains with lava)
Just to note ahead, I am currently attempting to get a 9-A feat accepted for KOF '94, so they will have at least a good feat to scale.
Given that the Four Heavenly Kings of Orochi are shown to be on a similar level, I believe Goenitz can scale to High 6-C feats. This means KOF '96 and '97 characters can also scale to High 6-C because there is no significant difference in power between these two games.
So, what are you guys' thoughts on this?
After reading the Orochi Saga, I discovered something that could affect the scaling and the arc keys. In the KOF '96 Hero Team backstory, Kyo fought Goenitz and was completely destroyed. Even Kyo's most powerful move was ineffective against him.
This implies that there is a significant power gap between '95 and '96.
Then I wonder if Omega Rugal could scale to Orochi's followers, given that he does receive some of Orochi's power. However, there are two reasons why he shouldn't scale to them.
1. The most obvious one is that he was defeated by KOF '95 Kyo, who then stomped by Goenitz, so scaling him to a far more powerful character is out of question. Not to mention that Goenitz easily defeats Rugal, adding to the power gap between these two characters.
2. Rugal received some of Orochi's power and became stronger than his base, but only by an unquantifiable amount. Even Goenitz believes Rugal has no chance with Orochi power, showing that Rugal is clearly not at the Orochi characters level of power.
With that said, I have decided that I will need to separate the KOF '94 and Orochi Saga games into their own keys. It would look something like this:
Tier: TBA | At least TBA to High 6-C
Key: Prologue Chapter (KOF '94) | Chapter of Orochi Saga (KOF '95 to KOF '97)
Attack Potency: TBA (Insert feat here) | At least TBA (Can fight Omega Rugal, who are stronger than before due to Orochi's dark power) to Large Island level (Have fought the Four Heavenly Kings, with Goenitz capable of causing a massive storm and Yashiro capable of flooding mountains with lava)
Just to note ahead, I am currently attempting to get a 9-A feat accepted for KOF '94, so they will have at least a good feat to scale.
Given that the Four Heavenly Kings of Orochi are shown to be on a similar level, I believe Goenitz can scale to High 6-C feats. This means KOF '96 and '97 characters can also scale to High 6-C because there is no significant difference in power between these two games.
So, what are you guys' thoughts on this?
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