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Nonexistence Erasure is usually associated with Conceptual Manipulation Type which they have anyway.
 
Jaakuace44, Steven stated that Nanashi takes warnings of messiah and god slayer not end up like them: Lucifer, Mekabah, Krishna, and YHVH are major antagonists confirmed dead.

Satan = Aspect of YHVH, not YHVH.
 
Jonathan and Walter are going to reincarnate because that is the natural course of all things, Humans eventually return to the Axiom and incarnate in different forms.

Meanwhile, in the Massacre Route, Satan simply says he will return to the Axiom, he doesn't state that he will eventually come back or anything like that.
 
He more so implies that humanity won't be able to live without a creator deity to worship, aka him, thus, his existence would be needed in the universe.
 
DMB 1 said:
He more so implies that humanity won't be able to live without a creator deity to worship, aka him.
That too, but he has a dialogue switch that also implies he at least has a chance of return
 
Yobobojojo said:
DMB 1 said:
He more so implies that humanity won't be able to live without a creator deity to worship, aka him.
That too, but he has a dialogue switch that also implies he at least has a chance of retur
I didn't get this perspective. Besides, Steven implies that he is dead like Krishna and the other major antagonists.
 
Nedge1000 said:
Yobobojojo said:
DMB 1 said:
He more so implies that humanity won't be able to live without a creator deity to worship, aka him.
That too, but he has a dialogue switch that also implies he at least has a chance of retur
I didn't get this perspective. Besides, Steven implies that he is dead like Krishna and the other major antagonists.
That's only on the Massacre Route.
 
Jaakuace44 said:
Nedge1000 said:
Yobobojojo said:
DMB 1 said:
He more so implies that humanity won't be able to live without a creator deity to worship, aka him.
That too, but he has a dialogue switch that also implies he at least has a chance of retur
I didn't get this perspective. Besides, Steven implies that he is dead like Krishna and the other major antagonists.
That's only on the Massacre Route.
It still never stated that he would come back. Personally, I rather have concrete statements rather than theory.
 
If Mid-Godly Regen Negation is already covered by Nonexistence Erasure and Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation, Mid-Godly may be redundant. That said, I'd still keep it listed to avoid confusion in match-ups. Or maybe note that Nonexistence Erasure and Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation grant Mid-Godly Regen Negation on their profiles.
 
We also had that Regenerationn negation for demons discussed earlier that seemed to be agreed on
 
SMT Conceptual Manipulation is probably like, Type 3 considering the Concepts manipulated are explicitly described as comprising the World.
 
Manipulations of the concept of voids would be Type concept 2 like Polaris. Furthermore, Demons are abstract/concepts that come from the expense that comes from the expense which transcends the reality as it law of causality.

Affecting them would them with Conceptual Manipulation would need to be Type 2.


2. False Platonic Concept: Such concepts, or forms, are mostly transcendent of reality. These concepts shape all of reality and whatever level that reality exists in, and everything in reality "participates" in these concepts. These concepts interact with their objects in the same manner as listed above. In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept on whatever scale has been shown.
 
Setsuna tenma said:
Why do they get concept from the admins though?They are aliens.
The conceptual manipulation gets upscaled from Polaris, not from Polaris. Kagutsuchi (Shin Megami Tensei) would probably have the same feat has well.
 
I don't see why the Reality Warping of powerful Demons such as Lucifer would be somehow worse and less effective than the one possessed by beings whom they completely dwarf in power going by feats, especially since it is an ability consistently showcased by every Demon God worth their salt in the Verse. Kagutsuchi 2-A stuff is pure Reality Warping for example, yet everyone of note upscales from it since their own RW should logically be far stronger, same thing with the Administrators.
 
Manipulating Information/data itself that make enything in the world and can harm/kill those beings (not including the Observation/Cuantum Observation Theory) what type of Conceptual Manipulation is?
 
Might want to change part of the 2-A justification on Adramelech's page, Nedge1000. Being defeated isn't what you'd call a feat. Maybe 'contended with' would be more fair.
 
Extreme123dz said:
Manipulating Information/data itself that make enything in the world and can harm/kill those beings (not including the Observation/Cuantum Observation Theory) what type of Conceptual Manipulation is?
The informations, they manipulate transcend the world's reality to be specific since they can control the void. It would be Type 2 Conceptual Manipulation
 
By the way, regarding the Divine Angel stuff, in JohnsAwesome's playthrough Andramelech was hitting around the 180/ while Power was hitting around 90-100. Not sure if that's helpful but I think someone wanted to know about this.
 
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