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Smite Revisions?

Mmh since SMITE is stated to be a multiverse, i would say this sounds right.

And about the head gods ? What would it be, 3-A or Low 2-C ?
 
Well need more input and verification before me make such an massive upgrade. I know Snake is highly doubtful of any head god being place near 2-C so if not a unison decision it must be a majority.
 
I'm okay with the god-heads being High 4-C. Scaling from Zeus since he did create a constellation and the other god-heads are comparable to him and each other.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
This is incorrect.
Literally none of the pantheon heads have anything Low 2-C besides Olorun (Full Power). Chronos isn't a god nor pantheon head. he's time itself and doesn't include himself in the war at all outside of gameplay.
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Chronos isn't a god but he is indeed something the Greek pantheon battled. Olorun's power is held as great but ostensibly not insurmountable. Never said he was a god or a pantheon head, just that he (Chronos) could scale.

As for skin stuff... this might be inadvisable unless skins have actual written lore. Just taking what the skin's voicelines say might be inadvisable since a few of them outright lie (looking at you, Rat).
 
Mr. Bambu please explain Just taking what the skin's voicelines say might be inadvisable since a few of them outright lie (looking at you, Rat). Which ones would be unreliable?
 
...all of them, because some of them outright lie, like I said. Rat in a voiceline claims to have created everything. This is an obvious lie which shows that some of them will lie.

If the skins don't have written lore beforehand, then I'd say we shouldn't take them into account for pages.
 
My opinion: SMITE Powerscaling is a mess and we should pretend the game has lore that makes any sense.

Also I'm nearly 100% sure that the comics aren't in-continuity with the games.
 
What do you mean by "pretend" ? Also, the comics arebasically the prequel for the game so it can be used i think.But yeah, powerscaling is a complete mess.
 
For the longest I thought we were on the head-gods that's why I said 4-C. Lolz I feel so slow now. Um how about we place them at level 5-A. If someone wants up the tier then it must be proven with some lore for the character or feat (inconsistency I know but 5-A should be fine
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
My opinion: SMITE Powerscaling is a mess and we should pretend the game has lore that makes any sense.
Also I'm nearly 100% sure that the comics aren't in-continuity with the games.
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This, expect the last bit is wrong.

The comics at least Pantheon is a direct prequel to the story of SMITE. The odyssey is the main storyline after though.
 
Even as I made the profiles way back when I ignored the comics because I found the scaling in them was ridiculous. And I sticked to lore feats. The current state of the gods in the game lore might be excused to "Faith = Worship" shit which is only in the brought up in the comics. Honestly, it's all just a mess.
 
I agree they're a mess, I've spoken about it before with Weekly. Dunno about the comics, I leafed through the first one anand never returned.

I'm fine with the scaling of a small handful of people being Low 2C, all other gods being High 4C, and subgods (Achilles, Medusa, and Arthur, to name a few) being 7A scaling to Cabrakan.

Should also note that Odyssey Underworld lore has damn interesting details featwise if you haven't read it yet.
 
@Bambu

When did the Greek gods ever fight Chronos in SMITE? He hasn't made a single canon appearance as far as I'm aware in anything.

As for skins, as I mentioned above 99% of them aren't canon. A couple that come to mind that are canon would be Godslayer Ares and Ragnarok Hades.
 
someone hasn't read my last comment smh
 
So would Low 2-C for the pantheon rulers be acceptable for the rest of you?
 
Ostensibly no. My initial idea was that Chronos was a titan, in game the objective is to defeat titans, ergo scaling. The titans we actually beat are fairly nameless though (Chaos Titan and Order Titan) so if that's unacceptable I'm cool with nixing Low 2C scaling for the most part.
 
Even if he doesn't appear in the comics, Chronos is still in the game and has his own lore, so he can have a profile and from what we know, he is the strongest god with Olorun and possibly Chernobog in the game (and Olorun is likely the most powerful).

At least we have finally been able to progress.
 
Chernobog has no reason to scale to Low 2C at all. Chronos and Olorun are it, afaik.
 
Dunno. Would like to hear from Perp and Matt first.
 
Sounds right. So that would give us :

- God Heads (Zeus, Odin, Ra, Amaterasu, Izanami, etc) : Low 2-C

- Regular Gods (Ares, Athena, Apollo, Ainhur, Loki, Anubis, etc) : High 4-C

- Lesser Gods/God like (Medusa, Arthur, etc) : At least 7-A, likely much higher (scaling from Cabrakan)

And for Olorun and Chronos (and possibly Chernobog) ?

Also, there is the problem of some gods's tiers. Like since Fenrir is numersously stated to kill Odin during Ragnarök, should we consider him as a ruler god ?

What about Kukulkan, Hades, Ah Puch, Set (who usruped power as the leader), Osiris (who was destined to rule) or Merlin ?
 
No. I just went over why Low 2C wouldn't be so accessible if the opinion is that it shouldn't be.
 
One thing I'd like to ask about: the feat in Vamana's lore. What do we consider that as?
 
@Sanke I gues that means you refuse the Low 2-C part right ? Or it's just that Chernobog isn't counted with Olorun and Chronos (wich i'm perfectly fine with since, after another look, he seems more like a God head though a very strong one) ?
 
I guess he's talking about Vamana stepping. He grew big enough to step on the planet but nothing else is quantifiable in terms of heavens and underworld. So he'd be at least 5-B I'd imagine when he grows.
 
Oh. I just red his lore and...well, that's interesting. Since he engulfed Earth, "At least 5-B" seems fine.

So i guess we wait for Perpetual and Matt now.
 
If we don't hold Heavens and Underworld to be their own realms then Vamana and others would still just scale to High 4C
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
@Arkham
Dude no one is universal except Olorun at full power and Chronos.
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Respectfully disagree. Stuff like Kali and Neith are universal too.

There's also a blatantly galaxy level feat involving Yggdrasil. It is stated to be a "Galaxy-spanning trunk", after all.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Chernobog has no reason to scale to Low 2C at all. Chronos and Olorun are it, afaik.
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TBF, Chernobog was portrayed in his lore video as being a threat to all pantheons, and if I'm not mistaken he was shown to be a really big deal in the game's events.

The problem is that the event lore is super loose.
 
He basically has no feat in his lore but at the same time, he is stated to be a primordial embodiement of darkness and evil and yeah a very serious threat to other gods (he is at the very least a god head).

And Kali is clearly universal yeah.

Doesn't change the fact we still have to be sure for the tiers for Primordials, Head Gods, regulars and lessers (though at least we're sure for the last two maybe ?).
 
Also for what it's worth the Vamana feat in myth is clearly universal in scale so I don't know why it would be so much lower here.
 
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