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Our SMITE profiles are... a little weird.
All of the characters are only ever scaled to their in-game lore, but all of them are also generally portrayed as equals to one another, in various ways:
In the Comic, Loki, Ao Kuang, and Hel: none of whom are Pantheon Leaders in any sense: are all able to harm and kill Zeus, in spite of wielding his Thunderbolt that clearly makes him much stronger than everyone else (note that Loki pretty easily bodied Hel with it later on, and won 1 vs 3 against Neith, Mercury, and Athena later on.)
In the on-going story since Season 5, we've seen such things as Bellona going to town against primordial pantheon leaders, like Chernobog, and fighting with Pele against a Ragnarok-amped Hades (this being the reason he got a Ragnarok skin to begin with). Following that, Hera takes over Olympus in Zeus's absence, and- given the threat of Jormungandr- goes to recruit two of the only people that apparently have a good chance of defeating him... King Arthur and Merlin. (I guess we'll see how that goes by the end of this Season.)
Then, in the promotional material, we see such things as Neith getting contended by Fenrir, who then gets slapped by Thor, who in turn goes toe to toe with Guan Yu?
...their depictions are all over the place, really. And, inevitably, allowed to proceed without question, it lends everyone to scaling to such powerful Gods as Neith and Olorun. That seems... a little off, no?
Fortunately, I discovered what seems to be two big outs:
"...At first, the battles were waged on a higher plane- but the human realm still suffered. Volcanic eruptions, floods, earthquakes... Collateral damage from a conflict waged on high."
And, on the same page,
"...by redoubling their commitment to the Gods. This only fueled the fire, for it is devotio that gives the Gods their powers."
In other words,
> All Gods belong, at the true height of their potential, in a higher plane of being entirely. Given how many of them are stated as possessing various Universe Creation Myths in a world where All Mythologies Are Real- and that's confirmed as some kind of multiverse, what with King Arthur and Merlin having just been pulled into the ongoing Jormungandr conflict from another world entirely- I think it's relatively safe to take this to mean that all of the Gods (again, at the peak of their power) are on this scale.
> All of the Gods are, however, also nerfed for the majority of the actual ongoing story that we see. Fortunately, we can still use gameplay feats for lack of any reason given for them to contradict what we see and hear about them elsewhere, and all of them scale handily to Hou Yi's Sunbreaker Ultimate, so...
My Proposal would go something to the tune of
Base/Weakened: "At least 6-B+, likely 4-C" and Massively FTL+
At Full Power: "Low 2-C" (or Likely/Possibly so, if given reason to doubt?), Massively FTL+ (if not higher, though I don't know if you can scale speed to someone like Chronos or Olorun in that way.) I imagine Primordial Gods that we might have reason to put at Neith's level may be 2-C themselves, since there's never any indication that Neith was ever considered to be above the Pantheon heads, but that's speculation for another time, I think.
...I have a list that should be ready, soon, that goes over all of the Hax that's thrown around and resisted in-game alone (ergo, that we can assume applies universally to the cast), but otherwise, the only other thing...
Well, in the Comics, Anubis and Hades both stood like, 20-25 feet tall. As did Zeus, and all of the Gods we essentially always depicted as about the same size as one another. So I guess I'd give Smite Gods Large Size (Type 0) by default? Even in game, they're twice as tall as the minions, who are supposed to just be people.
That's all for now, I'll come back to this once I'm done- just want to get this out there for discussion, first.
All of the characters are only ever scaled to their in-game lore, but all of them are also generally portrayed as equals to one another, in various ways:
In the Comic, Loki, Ao Kuang, and Hel: none of whom are Pantheon Leaders in any sense: are all able to harm and kill Zeus, in spite of wielding his Thunderbolt that clearly makes him much stronger than everyone else (note that Loki pretty easily bodied Hel with it later on, and won 1 vs 3 against Neith, Mercury, and Athena later on.)
In the on-going story since Season 5, we've seen such things as Bellona going to town against primordial pantheon leaders, like Chernobog, and fighting with Pele against a Ragnarok-amped Hades (this being the reason he got a Ragnarok skin to begin with). Following that, Hera takes over Olympus in Zeus's absence, and- given the threat of Jormungandr- goes to recruit two of the only people that apparently have a good chance of defeating him... King Arthur and Merlin. (I guess we'll see how that goes by the end of this Season.)
Then, in the promotional material, we see such things as Neith getting contended by Fenrir, who then gets slapped by Thor, who in turn goes toe to toe with Guan Yu?
...their depictions are all over the place, really. And, inevitably, allowed to proceed without question, it lends everyone to scaling to such powerful Gods as Neith and Olorun. That seems... a little off, no?
Fortunately, I discovered what seems to be two big outs:
"...At first, the battles were waged on a higher plane- but the human realm still suffered. Volcanic eruptions, floods, earthquakes... Collateral damage from a conflict waged on high."
And, on the same page,
"...by redoubling their commitment to the Gods. This only fueled the fire, for it is devotio that gives the Gods their powers."
In other words,
> All Gods belong, at the true height of their potential, in a higher plane of being entirely. Given how many of them are stated as possessing various Universe Creation Myths in a world where All Mythologies Are Real- and that's confirmed as some kind of multiverse, what with King Arthur and Merlin having just been pulled into the ongoing Jormungandr conflict from another world entirely- I think it's relatively safe to take this to mean that all of the Gods (again, at the peak of their power) are on this scale.
> All of the Gods are, however, also nerfed for the majority of the actual ongoing story that we see. Fortunately, we can still use gameplay feats for lack of any reason given for them to contradict what we see and hear about them elsewhere, and all of them scale handily to Hou Yi's Sunbreaker Ultimate, so...
My Proposal would go something to the tune of
Base/Weakened: "At least 6-B+, likely 4-C" and Massively FTL+
At Full Power: "Low 2-C" (or Likely/Possibly so, if given reason to doubt?), Massively FTL+ (if not higher, though I don't know if you can scale speed to someone like Chronos or Olorun in that way.) I imagine Primordial Gods that we might have reason to put at Neith's level may be 2-C themselves, since there's never any indication that Neith was ever considered to be above the Pantheon heads, but that's speculation for another time, I think.
...I have a list that should be ready, soon, that goes over all of the Hax that's thrown around and resisted in-game alone (ergo, that we can assume applies universally to the cast), but otherwise, the only other thing...
Well, in the Comics, Anubis and Hades both stood like, 20-25 feet tall. As did Zeus, and all of the Gods we essentially always depicted as about the same size as one another. So I guess I'd give Smite Gods Large Size (Type 0) by default? Even in game, they're twice as tall as the minions, who are supposed to just be people.
That's all for now, I'll come back to this once I'm done- just want to get this out there for discussion, first.
