- 3,270
- 1,096
Dragon is constantly improving himself too, Shaolin Monk styleCass also could have killed her.
And, unlike Dragon, Cass and Shiva have both gotten much better since then.
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Dragon is constantly improving himself too, Shaolin Monk styleCass also could have killed her.
And, unlike Dragon, Cass and Shiva have both gotten much better since then.
Didn't he retire after that story where he had his final battle with Shiva?Dragon is constantly improving himself too, Shaolin Monk style
Sort of. This takes place before his appearance in the question though, he just sorta self improves in his mountain temple nowDidn't he retire after that story where he had his final battle with Shiva?
I could've sworn that was part of the ending
Well Richard haven't appeared in post flashpoint yet LMAOMkay
Dammit.
So they're just gonna keep tossing around the ball for who's the best between the three of them forever
Marvel in order:
1. Shang-Chi
2. Iron Fist
3. Daredevil/Elektra
4. Black Panther/Captain America
5. Taskmaster
6. Wolverine/Deadpool
7. Winter Soldier/Bullseye
9. Crossbones/Thor
Didn’t understand how Thor and Crossbones are on the list though.
DC in order:
1. Karate Kid
2. Cassandra
3. Shiva/Richard Dragon
4. Batman/Nightwing
5. Azrael
6. Bane
7. Deathstroke
8. Black Canary
9. Robin
I won’t rank the other two because I don’t know about them. I also ranked both Marvel and DC using feats, fights, statements and martial arts background. So I don’t care if someone in #2 lost to the #5 because that’s one fight and does not represent the character as a whole, as Iron Fist is consistently the Marvel’s #2 but Marvel uses him to hype someone else.
disagree massively
barely noticed a difference on our lists
Idk tbh deathstroke higher changes a lotVery minor stuff actually.
Ok no offense but that isn't exactly logical to say he can't get lower when he regularly struggles with batman and even admits he has a lot to learn from batmanKarate Kid can’t get any lower.
That Deadpool and Taskmaster downplay is crazy.Shang chi
Iron fist
Daredevil
Elektra
Wolverine
Captain america
Black panther
Deadpool
Taskmaster
I think you mean that daredevil downplay!That Deadpool and Taskmaster downplay is crazy.
Do you have a sandbox for the new DD profile, btw?Karate Kid can’t get any lower.
Hi, I read all of Pre Zero-Hour (the "main" version of Armorr) KK's comics, this literally never happensOk no offense but that isn't exactly logical to say he can't get lower when he regularly struggles with batman and even admits he has a lot to learn from batman
He fought him once while he'd just woken up from a coma and had his memories completely overwritten (definitely not peak condition) and he still was winning pretty handily, he just got sneak-attacked and knocked out by someone else (which granted was Batman's plan, but Bats himself later on admitted he'd been outfought)didn’t he tie in a fight with Batman like twice
What's keeping him higher is "can put people with Infinite LS in a joint lock", "can destroy planet-sized energy constructs with a single strike thanks to his pressure points" and "can cause earthquakes by using his martial arts on the ground" (note that none of the above are done thanks to stats), not statements.It's absolutely fair to say man is lower and tbh the only thing keeping him higher is statements
Why are you assuming that I'm referring to pre zero-hour anyways? Seems odd to assume I'm referring to ONE thingHi, I read all of Pre Zero-Hour (the "main" version of Armorr) KK's comics, this literally never happens
He fought him once while he'd just woken up from a coma and had his memories completely overwritten (definitely not peak condition) and he still was winning pretty handily, he just got sneak-attacked and knocked out by someone else (which granted was Batman's plan, but Bats himself later on admitted he'd been outfought)
What's keeping him higher is "can put people with Infinite LS in a joint lock", "can destroy planet-sized energy constructs with a single strike thanks to his pressure points" and "can cause earthquakes by using his martial arts on the ground" (note that none of the above are done thanks to stats), not statements.
Because that's the version we're talking about and, as far as I know, the most skilled, with only one real contender.Why are you assuming that I'm referring to pre zero-hour anyways? Seems odd to assume I'm referring to ONE thing
In all fairness I could be wrong just going off memoryI'm curious now though so I'm gonna research all the others
I don’t think this is what he’s saying here. He’s saying unlike the aforementioned heroes, they have bad days, sometimes their form is imperfect, they miss, or get tired. But Taskmaster’s form doesn’t degrade because he never has those, but that doesn’t mean he’s above them, considering he’s lost to DD before.His technique never degrades over time, every time he performs a move, it's as perfect as the day he mastered it. To a degree that he believes it to be above both Daredevil’s and Bullseye.
I'm saying is considers himself superior to them in that respect. In the sense that his technique is always at their “peak” while they can suffer from things he never has to deal with.I don’t think this is what he’s saying here. He’s saying unlike the aforementioned heroes, they have bad days, sometimes their form is imperfect, they miss, or get tired. But Taskmaster’s form doesn’t degrade because he never has those, but that doesn’t mean he’s above them, considering he’s lost to DD before.
Wolverine above Taskmaster and Black Panther? That's a nah from me, broski.As for marvel
Shang chi
Iron fist
Daredevil
Elektra
Wolverine
Captain america
Black panther
Deadpool
Taskmaster
Yeah, where's Blade on the list on terms of skills? I'm pretty sure he's above Deadpool and Wolverine, maybe alongside Taskmaster in 5?Deadpool kinda sucks. Blade stomps him every time they fight
Tbf, isn’t Blade immensely stronger and faster than DP?Deadpool kinda sucks. Blade stomps him every time they fight
He is, in all fairness, but he still just like, never gets hit and kicks his shit in pretty badTbf, isn’t Blade immensely stronger and faster than DP?
I'd say roughly Wolvie tier, he's got pretty cracked aim featsYeah, where's Blade on the list on terms of skills? I'm pretty sure he's above Deadpool and Wolverine, maybe alongside Taskmaster in 5?
IIRC they only fought when Daredevil had his senses messed up, MK has a bunch of feats and his own scaling. I'll soon remove the scaling to his profile and do something better.And the obvious fought daredevil etc etc (hence why he's comparable to dd on his profile lul)
That's for the best imo, I don't like the idea of people just scaling to DD because they fought once or twice, especially back in the day.IIRC they only fought when Daredevil had his senses messed up, MK has a bunch of feats and his own scaling. I'll soon remove the scaling to his profile and do something better.
To be continued... (After DD's revamp?)soon
Pretty sure everyone unanimously agreed all the VG characters here are below comic top tiers.So is anyone here still gonna argue over VG characters or should I just unfollow lol
I'm still waiting on that Sora vs Marisa rematch I was promised~