Skill Tier List #1: Video Games vs Comics

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Cass also could have killed her.

And, unlike Dragon, Cass and Shiva have both gotten much better since then.

Dragon is constantly improving himself too, Shaolin Monk style

 

[M3X_2.0]

All DC street level improve themselves overtime. It’s why Tim was able to sometimes outspeed Cass.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Dragon is constantly improving himself too, Shaolin Monk style

Didn't he retire after that story where he had his final battle with Shiva?
I could've sworn that was part of the ending

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Didn't he retire after that story where he had his final battle with Shiva?
I could've sworn that was part of the ending

Sort of. This takes place before his appearance in the question though, he just sorta self improves in his mountain temple now

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Mkay
Dammit.
So they're just gonna keep tossing around the ball for who's the best between the three of them forever

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Mkay
Dammit.
So they're just gonna keep tossing around the ball for who's the best between the three of them forever

Well Richard haven't appeared in post flashpoint yet LMAO

 

[Scathan_The_Celestial]

Marvel in order:

1. Shang-Chi
2. Iron Fist
3. Daredevil/Elektra
4. Black Panther/Captain America
5. Taskmaster
6. Wolverine/Deadpool
7. Winter Soldier/Bullseye
9. Crossbones/Thor

Didn’t understand how Thor and Crossbones are on the list though.

DC in order:

1. Karate Kid
2. Cassandra
3. Shiva/Richard Dragon
4. Batman/Nightwing
5. Azrael
6. Bane
7. Deathstroke
8. Black Canary
9. Robin

I won’t rank the other two because I don’t know about them. I also ranked both Marvel and DC using feats, fights, statements and martial arts background. So I don’t care if someone in #2 lost to the #5 because that’s one fight and does not represent the character as a whole, as Iron Fist is consistently the Marvel’s #2 but Marvel uses him to hype someone else.

I disagree with this p massively
Karate kid
Cassandra
Shiva/dragon
Batman
Bane
Nightwing
Canary
Deathstroke
Robin

Also where is bronze tiger and Connor hawke

As for marvel
Shang chi
Iron fist
Daredevil
Elektra
Wolverine
Captain america
Black panther
Deadpool
Taskmaster

No clue about the rest and why is Thor here? If Thor is here wonder woman should be in dc

 

[M3X_2.0]

disagree massively
barely noticed a difference on our lists

 

[Scathan_The_Celestial]

I think the same differences are big enough to be massive

Mainly deathstroke

 

[M3X_2.0]

Very minor stuff actually.

 

[Scathan_The_Celestial]

Very minor stuff actually.

Idk tbh deathstroke higher changes a lot
Karate kid could be much lower tho but for the sake of this I'll put him at the top

 

[M3X_2.0]

Karate Kid can’t get any lower.

 

[Eclipso]

didn’t he tie in a fight with Batman like twice

 

[Scathan_The_Celestial]

Karate Kid can’t get any lower.

Ok no offense but that isn't exactly logical to say he can't get lower when he regularly struggles with batman and even admits he has a lot to learn from batman

 

[Scathan_The_Celestial]

It's absolutely fair to say man is lower and tbh the only thing keeping him higher is statements

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Shang chi
Iron fist
Daredevil
Elektra
Wolverine
Captain america
Black panther
Deadpool
Taskmaster

That Deadpool and Taskmaster downplay is crazy.

 

[Eclipso]

That Deadpool and Taskmaster downplay is crazy.

I think you mean that daredevil downplay!

Also where’s my blud cyclops

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Karate Kid can’t get any lower.

Do you have a sandbox for the new DD profile, btw?

 

[Armorchompy]

Ok no offense but that isn't exactly logical to say he can't get lower when he regularly struggles with batman and even admits he has a lot to learn from batman

Hi, I read all of Pre Zero-Hour (the "main" version of Armorr) KK's comics, this literally never happens

didn’t he tie in a fight with Batman like twice

He fought him once while he'd just woken up from a coma and had his memories completely overwritten (definitely not peak condition) and he still was winning pretty handily, he just got sneak-attacked and knocked out by someone else (which granted was Batman's plan, but Bats himself later on admitted he'd been outfought)

It's absolutely fair to say man is lower and tbh the only thing keeping him higher is statements

What's keeping him higher is "can put people with Infinite LS in a joint lock", "can destroy planet-sized energy constructs with a single strike thanks to his pressure points" and "can cause earthquakes by using his martial arts on the ground" (note that none of the above are done thanks to stats), not statements.

 

[Scathan_The_Celestial]

Hi, I read all of Pre Zero-Hour (the "main" version of Armorr) KK's comics, this literally never happens

He fought him once while he'd just woken up from a coma and had his memories completely overwritten (definitely not peak condition) and he still was winning pretty handily, he just got sneak-attacked and knocked out by someone else (which granted was Batman's plan, but Bats himself later on admitted he'd been outfought)

What's keeping him higher is "can put people with Infinite LS in a joint lock", "can destroy planet-sized energy constructs with a single strike thanks to his pressure points" and "can cause earthquakes by using his martial arts on the ground" (note that none of the above are done thanks to stats), not statements.

Why are you assuming that I'm referring to pre zero-hour anyways? Seems odd to assume I'm referring to ONE thing

 

[Scathan_The_Celestial]

I checked out those scans we are def referring to different things lol (but I don't really care about karate kid much I already said he can be 1)

 

[Armorchompy]

Why are you assuming that I'm referring to pre zero-hour anyways? Seems odd to assume I'm referring to ONE thing

Because that's the version we're talking about and, as far as I know, the most skilled, with only one real contender.

 

[Armorchompy]

I'm curious now though so I'm gonna research all the others

 

[Scathan_The_Celestial]

I'm curious now though so I'm gonna research all the others

In all fairness I could be wrong just going off memory

I know about others like shiva way mkre

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

More Taskmaster skill wank.

His technique never degrades over time, every time he performs a move, it's as perfect as the day he mastered it. To a degree that he believes it to be above both Daredevil’s and Bullseye.

Was shown to be capable of out fighting the Cat. Who has fought with Shang chi in the past.

Can send characters far, far stronger than himself flying By using their momentum against them.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

His technique never degrades over time, every time he performs a move, it's as perfect as the day he mastered it. To a degree that he believes it to be above both Daredevil’s and Bullseye.

I don’t think this is what he’s saying here. He’s saying unlike the aforementioned heroes, they have bad days, sometimes their form is imperfect, they miss, or get tired. But Taskmaster’s form doesn’t degrade because he never has those, but that doesn’t mean he’s above them, considering he’s lost to DD before.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

I don’t think this is what he’s saying here. He’s saying unlike the aforementioned heroes, they have bad days, sometimes their form is imperfect, they miss, or get tired. But Taskmaster’s form doesn’t degrade because he never has those, but that doesn’t mean he’s above them, considering he’s lost to DD before.

I'm saying is considers himself superior to them in that respect. In the sense that his technique is always at their “peak” while they can suffer from things he never has to deal with.

I'm not flatly saying Taskmaster>DD. Just in that respect.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I agree then.

 

[Tomfer]

As for marvel
Shang chi
Iron fist
Daredevil
Elektra
Wolverine
Captain america
Black panther
Deadpool
Taskmaster

Wolverine above Taskmaster and Black Panther? That's a nah from me, broski.

(I do agree with Deadpool being that low when comparing to those on the list)

 

[Armorchompy]

Deadpool kinda sucks. Blade stomps him every time they fight

 

[Tomfer]

Deadpool kinda sucks. Blade stomps him every time they fight

Yeah, where's Blade on the list on terms of skills? I'm pretty sure he's above Deadpool and Wolverine, maybe alongside Taskmaster in 5?

Also I, deadass, didn't saw himon the list before, lmao. It was added later?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Deadpool kinda sucks. Blade stomps him every time they fight

Tbf, isn’t Blade immensely stronger and faster than DP?

 

[Armorchompy]

Tbf, isn’t Blade immensely stronger and faster than DP?

He is, in all fairness, but he still just like, never gets hit and kicks his shit in pretty bad

Yeah, where's Blade on the list on terms of skills? I'm pretty sure he's above Deadpool and Wolverine, maybe alongside Taskmaster in 5?

I'd say roughly Wolvie tier, he's got pretty cracked aim feats

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Part of the reason Deadpool isn't consistently super skilled is that His overreliance on his regeneration has caused his fundamentals to degrade. To the point he wanted Taskmaster to train him up to his previous peak.

Just something interesting .

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

So is anyone here still gonna argue over VG characters or should I just unfollow lol

I'm still waiting on that Sora vs Marisa rematch I was promised~

 

[Tomfer]

Dunno if Maverick will let me, but as a Moon Knight fan— I'm required to at least offer him to be on the list with a few feats:

Versatile in all martial arts in the world.
Capable of using pressure points to put others to sleep or knock them out. Even with his staff.
Defeated a bunch of demons who had copied the powers of a few super heroes.
Trolled Black Cat.
Got complimented by Shang-Chi as skilled but reckless. (Weakness that can be seen in a bunch of fights later on)
His marksmanship, while not on the same level as Daredevil, can still be comparable.
Easily defeated Deadpool upon learning that DP is pratically immortal. (MK didn't wanted to kill him in their first fight)
Fought against Iron Fist rather evenly on terms of skills.
And the obvious fought daredevil etc etc (hence why he's comparable to dd on his profile lul)

On the list, he'd be:
1. Shang-Chi
2. Iron Fist
3. Daredevil/Elektra
4. Black Panther/Captain America
5. Taskmaster
6. Wolverine/Deadpool/Moon Knight
7. Winter Soldier/Bullseye
9. Crossbones/Thor

Also I used some of M3X's previous examples because I'm a bit lazy atm. Can gather a few more in such case.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Someone dropped some good Fire Emblem scaling last page. Right now Byleth seems pretty impressive, skill wise.

 

[M3X_2.0]

And the obvious fought daredevil etc etc (hence why he's comparable to dd on his profile lul)

IIRC they only fought when Daredevil had his senses messed up, MK has a bunch of feats and his own scaling. I'll soon remove the scaling to his profile and do something better.

 

[Tomfer]

IIRC they only fought when Daredevil had his senses messed up, MK has a bunch of feats and his own scaling. I'll soon remove the scaling to his profile and do something better.

That's for the best imo, I don't like the idea of people just scaling to DD because they fought once or twice, especially back in the day.

soon

To be continued... (After DD's revamp?)

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

So is anyone here still gonna argue over VG characters or should I just unfollow lol

I'm still waiting on that Sora vs Marisa rematch I was promised~

Pretty sure everyone unanimously agreed all the VG characters here are below comic top tiers.