EldemadeDityjon
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My bad I thought you are arguing for Speed. 2A range needs infinite Worlds not countless worlds statement. I am fine with 2B range.
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Simple Short Upgrade for slime boy
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Why i didn't use MTL but my previous argument on numerous worlds i specified it there didnt i
Shiraito983
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Her attack wasn't limit to Cosmology. Im fine with 2B but i don't see this not being 2A
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I am neutral until the staff reaches a conclusion for the nature of the İnfinite Prison.
I don't see time travel here. Velgrind can travel to different space-time continuities, that's all. (Dimensional Travel). As for the range, I think we need a translation helper to translate the raw scan.
While I don't think this is immeasurable attack speed, at least I need scans as it could be proof of Velgrind's time travel and universal+ / interdimensional attack range.
Interdimensional range for Rimuru looks fine.
EldemadeDityjon
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Context looks like he is not trying to make the same mistakes which he made decades ago though?
I don't see him getting affected in the past by present attacks. Sorry atleast I don't see it in the scans.
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Don't worry about that i have abundant number of proof
Nah she can jump through time
Can you explain why and how it isn't immeasurable attack speed
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Since am the op and i am here to make it known
But you should please read
she legit sent her attack back in time and wounded him decades ago from the present including his army being wiped out
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For real eldemade READ first before saying your disagreements
Dont like ignorance on a thread
Dont like ignorance on a thread
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No one is ignoring anything and I didn't Disagreed with everything. I already said 2B range is fine. I just don't see the immeasurable speed that's all.
Just because you get some job to clarify others doesn't mean others are Ignorant. Stop being pressed on small things and explain properly. People won't just accept everything you say without knowing full context.
If you don't like to explain sure I will just ask code or peace.
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It looks fine then it can be added when Velgrind has a profile.
The only difference between it and the Web Novel version is that the attacks occur across along space and time. If there is clear proof that attacks affect the past, then the immeasurable speed can be considered.
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Sorry about that i didnt mean it offensively alright imma explain
Velgrynd from her world
Struck her attack
And if you read the scans as it said
It caused damage unrelated to her world, beyond .
The thing is Volume 16 was the continuation of Volume 17
Volume 17 explained her travels and volume 16 she came back and according to the scans it said the attack reach cornu and his men "which would take blud several decades to heal from"
Present time is now several decades from before which we see cornu POV how his army got wiped out and am "during an attempted invasion several decades ago he saw a blazing fire"
Which is scorch dragon cardinal acceleration from the first scan
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I proposed this for rimuru too
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If the attack from Velgrynd Volume 17 is the same attack that wounded Cornu several decades ago from Volume 16, then I can see a definite immeasurable speed attack.
From the edited MTL I got this :
"Cornu, on the other hand, was annoyed that his plan had been discovered. Cornu had his reasons for not making any more mistakes. The reason goes back several decades. In a mission to invade another world, Cornu had failed when he was one step away from success. It is unclear what had happened, but a scorching fire had consumed the army he had been leading. As a result, Cornu was left without a single subordinate despite being one of the ‘Three Phantom Commanders.’ Although the wounds of that time had healed, Cornu’s psyche was still burdened with an unshakable sorrow."
Considering the attack in Volume 17 states "he had lost his entire army and was injured so badly that it would take him decades to recover", while volume 16 tells us that Cornu several decades prior had lost his entire army, suffered a wound he required several decades to recover from, and the attribute of the attack being flames (the essence of Cthugha) then it is VERY likely that was Velgrnd's attack from several decades later.
Lost his entire army = "scorching fire had consumed the army he had been leading. As a result, Cornu was left without a single subordinate"
injured so badly that it would take him decades to recover = "goes back several decades ago"
"a scorching fire" = attribute of Cthugha and Velgrynd, as well as her primary attack for Cardinal Acceleration.
Nothing in that world could have made that attack since Cornu's army had destroyed everything there was and was only a single step from destroying the world.
If the connection between her Volume 17 attack and Cornu's several decades ago defeat seems sketchy. She can still use her time travel skill to send her attacks to targeted individuals in the past or future.
From the edited MTL I got this :
"Cornu, on the other hand, was annoyed that his plan had been discovered. Cornu had his reasons for not making any more mistakes. The reason goes back several decades. In a mission to invade another world, Cornu had failed when he was one step away from success. It is unclear what had happened, but a scorching fire had consumed the army he had been leading. As a result, Cornu was left without a single subordinate despite being one of the ‘Three Phantom Commanders.’ Although the wounds of that time had healed, Cornu’s psyche was still burdened with an unshakable sorrow."
Considering the attack in Volume 17 states "he had lost his entire army and was injured so badly that it would take him decades to recover", while volume 16 tells us that Cornu several decades prior had lost his entire army, suffered a wound he required several decades to recover from, and the attribute of the attack being flames (the essence of Cthugha) then it is VERY likely that was Velgrnd's attack from several decades later.
Lost his entire army = "scorching fire had consumed the army he had been leading. As a result, Cornu was left without a single subordinate"
injured so badly that it would take him decades to recover = "goes back several decades ago"
"a scorching fire" = attribute of Cthugha and Velgrynd, as well as her primary attack for Cardinal Acceleration.
Nothing in that world could have made that attack since Cornu's army had destroyed everything there was and was only a single step from destroying the world.
If the connection between her Volume 17 attack and Cornu's several decades ago defeat seems sketchy. She can still use her time travel skill to send her attacks to targeted individuals in the past or future.
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Velgrynd also should get immortality type 9 negation because her attack targets all connections of the targeted individual, even if they are beyond time and space or without Velgrynd's knowledge (similar to how the skill found all Rudra soul fragments across the multiverse, even in different time periods)
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Well i would focus on that later thanks for bringing it into notice
But not this thread
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Isn't the reason why Cornu got attacked by Velgrynd because Velgrynd was in the same "time" as him, not because Velgrynd attacked Cornu's past?
I forget if this was in Volume 16 or 17, or even 18. That time Velgrynd jumped to a world where Rudra's soul was a king in an Empire (This is also where Kondo came from), the problem they had at that time was because of the Phantom Invasion, and it was because Cornu opened the gate in that world. Cornu got the wound because of Velgrynd's attack at that time.
I forget if this was in Volume 16 or 17, or even 18. That time Velgrynd jumped to a world where Rudra's soul was a king in an Empire (This is also where Kondo came from), the problem they had at that time was because of the Phantom Invasion, and it was because Cornu opened the gate in that world. Cornu got the wound because of Velgrynd's attack at that time.
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Same time in a different universe how does that work
Your claim is using the logic all time are equal LMAO
No bro from that kondo world before kondo transferred into that world sakura akira was already there funny enough when kondou got summoned or smt Rudra who akira main from was still there
Either ways of all this the contunity is different you cant call them same
If velgrynd can time travel with her abilties so can her attack because
Naturally using the essence of dimensional leap
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I mean, wasn't Cornu in the same world as Velgrynd back then?
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Because Tensura uses the concept of only one and the same timeline, right?
(If I'm not mistaken this is in Volume 5, where Rimuru fights Chloe or when Rimuru, Hinata and Chloe are in the subconscious or whatever.)
That means the position between future, past, and present is the same in every world, the only difference being the events that occur.
(I don't know if the concept works like that, if it's wrong, just ignore it)
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No. Bro your knowledge on slime is baffling you're indirectly saying its low 2-C as a whole additionally
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- Ciel has to make the analysis, first; it is not something that adapts by itself in response to something like Itachi’s reactive evolution. Other context suggested Rimuru’s Stomach, which is weird like a metaphysical (chapter 31.5) space or pocket world where things (chapter 17.5) can be created (chapter 17.5) out of imagination (could be from subjective reality) and strength, which is basically irrelevant to it. So, Uriel's power, in the feat, should have the property since it evolved from Stomach. This point could weaken the calculation aspect.
- It does not seem to be cosmic awareness; I am neutral about supergenius.
- Time travel and Dimension travel could be fine.
- Range should be 2-C; numerous without more context is 2-C range.
- Speed should just be Interdimensional range like WN counterpart with space-time continuous strike
- I don’t recall anything about the Velgrynd’s strike affect the past or future so scans so I just think it is interdimensional range.
- From what I checked, Velgrynd moved to a timeline and destroyed the opposing army that moved that timeline with pace-time continuous strike in that same timeline. Later, Velgrynd moved back to the main timeline and destroyed the enemies in V16; Cornu didn’t even seem aware of her interference; V17 events in this case are from before V16, for context.
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- https://gyazo.com/3bbb448bfea4e7dbe53783ed75a0b002
- https://gyazo.com/1491aea6f6e2f3bc1a363a1d882be5fe (basically described as form of range attack
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Velgrynd only has interdimensional range in WN and not an immeasurable attack speed because WN didn't have the skill showcase any time travel aspects or any good feats. The LN changed a lot and demonstrates that the skill allows the user (and attacks) to time travel and locate any "target". An attack that can move to the past or future to hit an enemy is blatant immeasurable attack speed.
If I remember the events of Velgrynd's side story in V17 correctly, didn't she go to a future time period (relatively in the past) of another universe? You are saying that Velgrynd went back to the past of the multiverse which would make her 5D for affecting a higher timeline.
And this scan supports immeasurable attack speed as it details the attack to have "spanned time and space"
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hello why its only 2c when its state here
-Velgrynd can now find pieces of her beloved Rudra’s soul, no matter how remote or far away they are, even beyond time and space.
-Velgrynd herself can only make her leaps if she has a piece of Ludora’s soul to aim toward, but she wouldn’t have any trouble directing her strikes at those targets
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Statements like this only go as far as the verse can show.
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I'm with elizhaa
Also if it bypasses distance, it's not speed to begin with but hax
Also if it bypasses distance, it's not speed to begin with but hax
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Tbh im conflicted that counts but thanks for input
Sure then, agree to that
I will take cosmic awareness as this though?, Rimuru can use Veldora abilities btw
Yah, we also have the argument it uses the essence of dimensional leap and space time manip in other to do those things
I will propose another crt when volume 17 gets translated thanks for input
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Its should be low 1-c based on this
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Thanks
But that's 2-A according to Velgrynd
I will explain in tensura discussion thread
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Why is this Super Genius level intelligence? I'm afraid I've lost the train of thought here.
Time travel and Dimensional travel seems fine.
As mentioned before in this thread, "numerous worlds" isn't enough to denote 2-B range. If an attack spans "numerous worlds", and "worlds" are timelines, then that would be 2-C at most.
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Her calculation prison was able to keep a Low 2-C character at bay
Thoughts on cosmic awareness? Also thanks for input
Sure, its fine thanks
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Cool thanks for input i have table speed off
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