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What Alvis represents is the power to manipulate ether and warp reality through changing the future. THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT IS TALKED ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE GAME
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Going only by what I've seen people post here, there's more evidence for Shulk at least being universal in durability than there is against it. There is also a lot of hostility and pointless comments in this thread, and it would be best to keep those to a minimum.Mr.shortstuff said:Just because people want him to be universal doesn't mean he IS universal
I have a hard time taking you seriously when you claim that this person should be reduced from Universal all the way down to Street Level when multiple videos and pieces of evidence presented to you all portray this as not being the case. You are also out-voted, by a lot, so there's that. Pretty sure he's staying Universe Level+.Mr.shortstuff said:Shulk isn't the catalyst for the event hes the one that tells Alvis to do the thing he was MADE for. Instead of zanza pressing the button SHULK is the one pressing the button. The fact that he gives SOMEONE ELSE his weapon for the thing to happen automatically disproves any argument that shulk is the one that does it because as soon as his monado leaves his hand he has no control over it. And just because Alvis is a " weapon" doesn't mean he can't do the thing he did in the video that you people love posting. At his PEAK shulk is AT MOST a street leveler. Alvis says he is the monado because HE was the one that created them in the first place. HE"S the machine that destroyed and recreated the universe in the firat place. Alvis calls him "creator" because after killing zanza, he's the one holding the reins. He needs to make a decision and point Alvis in the right direction.
And I have YET to get any feats (other than the same one that I have proven WRONG over and over again) That supports any of shulk, or zanzas for that matter, " universal" abilities. Shulk NEVER lifts a universe, he NEVER goes faster than the speed of light, he NEVER destroys a universe BY HIMSELF using his OWN monado, and he NEVER tanks a universe busting attack AT ALL
Please mind the insults. It is not allowed, here.Mr.shortstuff said:even if alvis was in shulks blade (which he wasnt) how the hell would that disprove anything i just said. shulk still doesnt display any abilities beyond street leveling. and YOU idiots were the one that brought the human bullshit because YOU were the morons that said a normal human could survive standing at ground zero to what is basically the big bang