Should we upgrade Vision?

[ShrekAnakin]

So Vision currently is only a 6-A, but shoudl we upgrade him to at least a 4-B? My main reasons come from the fact that he's capable of fighting Ultron, and he can fight people who freqently clash with Thor, as shown here https://www.deviantart.com/bangjang96/art/Vision-Is-The-Crimson-Avenger-In-DEATH-BATTLE-761015434

And maybe making him at least an FTL, possibly MFTL+ if you wanna scale him to Ultron.

 

[ShrekAnakin]

I'm bumping in the hopes of a response.

 

[DarkGrath]

Well, probably don't use that link as an example, since Death Battle generally isn't a trusted source. Vision fighting Ultron on multiple occasions is still correct though... I think. My knowledge on Marvel Comics isn't great, and my memory is even worse.

Is this his only 4-B feat? And if so, how often has he compared to Ultron? If it's happened multiple times then there would be a case for it being consistent, but the link doesn't give many details.

 

[The_Impress]

Vision is weird, he is potrayed consistently as a lower weight class than the other 4-Bs, but still has his archnemesis be Ultron. As such it was ruled out to scale to Ultron, as Vision is potrayed more consistently at Captain Marvel and iron Man level, rather than Thor and Crew

 

[ZellTemplar55]

I've proven that Vision scales to 4B a long while ago, scales to Wonder Man, he is consistently portrayed at these levels, here's the link to the CRT https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2603370, speed wise Vision along with people like Wonder Man scale to MFTL+ speeds, idk why but Vs wiki has a bad rep with marvel heavy hitters like Vision (best example would be Namor out of them all), they have them listed at levels with scaling and feats that are actually less consistent then the 4B scaling (Wonder Man however did get corrected in AP, speed still lowballed to hell), so yes Vision's profile needs to be changed to 4B and MFTL+ speed (minimum of at least FTL possibly MFTL+) as he's shown more then enough to qualify no question

 

[The_Impress]

Wonder Man is inconsistent as hell, you might as well start scaling Spider-Man off of Wrecker while you're at it too.

 

[ZellTemplar55]

Not really, if he was inconsistent as hell he wouldn't have a profile, he's a consistent 4B, with feats involving the hulks, Thor, and other heavy hitters on a consistent basis

 

[The_Impress]

I mean, many inconsistent characters have profiles, idk what your point is there...

He has 4-B feats as much as he has High 6-A feats, or 5-B feats, the only reason he's listed a 4-B is through character logic.

 

[ZellTemplar55]

Actually his 4B feats are way more backed up then the lower ones, scaling backs it up heavily along with the marvel guide book, also character logic is a very poor counter, and actually by that same logic you could downplay a lot of marvel characters like that and that's something I've won on against vs wiki, the "but they've shown lower a good amount" is no longer nor was it ever a valid argument, so Wonder Man, Vision, and others that aren't when they should are 4B (actually way higher due to discoveries in scaling and feats for marvel heavy hitters being universe+ and immeasurable speed several months ago)

 

[Antvasima]

You should ask the following members to comment here: Zensum, C2 of Omego, Eficiente, Qawsedf234, PrinceOfTheMorning, SuperAPM, ClassicNESfa, Firestorm808, Elizio33, FanofRPGs, Hykuu.

 

[ShrekAnakin]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

Has anybody asked them yet?

 

[Eficiente]

I don't think he should be 4-B.

Vision is weird, he is potrayed consistently as a lower weight class than the other 4-Bs, but still has his archnemesis be Ultron.

His profile should say this.
..also his regen is just High-Mid.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the input.

Somebody should ask Matthew Schroeder to comment here as well.