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Possible Vision upgrade?

ZellTemplar55

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If not at least this is a good show of impressive stuff he's done Strength https://m.imgur.com/Tod0lwC (Faces Silver Surfer, with him stating Vision's strength is comparable to his) https://m.imgur.com/Rnos19o (Matches Wonder Man) https://m.imgur.com/SRAQf3U (One shots Jane Foster, also kinda a speed feat as he phased before Mjolnir could hit him at close range) https://m.imgur.com/8yRqpl6 (Takes on many heroes including Captain Marvel and a Nova, also kinda a speed feat considering he also reacted to and fully countered the Nova) Durability https://m.imgur.com/yE0lpHV (Takes a blast from Ultron) https://m.imgur.com/vi6l10C (Super Dense form unaffected by blows from multiple Hulks) https://m.imgur.com/ncDA2iG (Wonder Man hurts himself striking him) https://m.imgur.com/FoFPCfo (Trades blows with Wonder Man) https://m.imgur.com/a/sIGgZ (Deals with Hyperion's attacks) Speed https://m.imgur.com/a/gPH44 (Dodges Captain America's and Iron Man's attacks, though needed upgrade anyway due to Spider-Man and Cap being MHS+) https://m.imgur.com/a/B1Zah (Intercepted magic from Enchantress)
 
I think that scaling him from Wonder Ma should probably be fine, but you should preferably ask some of the following members to comment here first:

Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Reppuzan, Shivansh Garg, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Nether nine, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan, The Archdemon
 
Okay. You should ask the others as well.
 
Probably not.
 
Have you asked some of them to give input here?
 
Yeah I asked 3, Crimson, Matt, and Spino, also what does bump even mean, is it just to knock it to the top of the page?
 
I think so, yes.
 
You should ask some more people in any case.
 
Thanks.
 
I dont think we should scale him to Ss, scaling him to Wonder Man seems ok though
 
Well, the problem is that The Vision is usually not considered as physically stronger than The Thing, and we currently rate him as 5-B.

Mind you, it seems like the 5-B rating needs to be updated to scale from the revised calculation of the Grey Hulk's planet-splitting feat instead, but unfortunately I have not succeeded to get enough people interested in that when I tried in the past.
 
Finally back and noticed Wonder Man got upgraded to Solar system level, so now Vision scales up to that, that upgrade plus the feats I mentioned above now carry more weight since now it actually makes it more consistent, this also could add even more weight to a Namor upgrade as well, cause while he can't surpass people like Thor or others of that caliber, he still can hurt them and at least swap hands a bit, which is pretty much what Wonder Man's description of being solar system level is, but that's for another CRT
 
The Vision is usually considered as considerably less powerful than Wonder Man, but he might scale from the Grey Hulk. I am uncertain. Marvel scaling chains via character fights are insanely inconsistent.
 
Still, I may focus too much on the handbook ratings. We need considerably more input from knowledgeable members.
 
Ok few things, one well you kinda already said scaling from Wonder Man seems fine, not trying to be a jerk, two the feats again are even further backed up due to Wonder Man's upgrade as they are along that line of power, even if wanted to go with old ranking Vision should still get a dwarf star level upgrade, three just because he's usually shown weaker doesn't really mean anything, most characters are usually performing feats below what they're actually capable of, and I'm gonna be honest it just plain isn't fair to have some characters ranked based on fewer feats or get upgrades from it, while others who basically get the shaft, Vision has displayed the feats, he's done it, personal suggestion if y'all want to have him lower or to "play it safe" have him listed as such "At least large planet level, possibly solar system level" and have the feats I mentioned along with it, and I'm gonna be 100% honest, now not saying anything and about you Ant, you're one of the nicest people here, but some of the people that work on the marvel parts are ignorant, the amount of crap y'all get for having Odin at Multi-Galaxy level is insane (which btw is beyond lowball for him and he's been proven to be a consistent multi-universal character multiple times, again for another CRT but just stating the facts), I really don't like y'all getting hate, most people on here are very nice, actually genuinely funny and I see a lot of laughs in threads and even laugh myself, sorry to write this huge thing but I wanted to nail as many important points as I could
 
Well, I suppose that you have a point. What other character pages here would scale from a Vision upgrade?
 
To my knowledge and from what I've seen from a quick check, not many should scale honestly, I mean the main ones that would have already gotten the upgrade, I'll double check and go through some things to see who else might scale
 
I would appreciate if somebody asks the following members to comment here:

Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Reppuzan, Shivansh Garg, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Nether nine, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan, The Archdemon, Kepekley23, Sera EX
 
Are some experienced members willing to help out with these upgrades?
 
Dang thought more would be on this, well in the mean time time to organize for the CRT for DBS being low multiverse to multiverse level
 
Well, I have brought up the issue in the Marvel speed revisions thread.
 
At this point I'd do one of 2 things 1. Slap it in the people's faces who know marvel 2. Change it anyway and whoever questions gets linked to this thread I've proven it's consistent that Vision scales to solar system so no votes or anything are really needed, if it's consistent then it's consistent, someone else's thoughts aren't going to change it, and again some are ranked based off singular feats at times real stupid changes are made (Like Thanos, the infinity gauntlet is at least hyperverse if not high hyperverse and that's not debatable, that's another that needs to be changed), end of the day, Vision is consistently solar system level via scaling to Wonder Man and other feats, other people's opinions won't change that as consistent is consistent no matter what they think
 
Please follow the instructions that I posted earlier.
 
Okay. Thanks.
 
Did you ask any of them?
 
I gave my opinion on the matter already so I don't know how much help I can give anymore.
 
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