(MCU) Vision upgrade

[darkphantom9805]

I think vision should be upgraded currently his tier is 6B despite he on screen no sells strikes from a 5C weapon valks sword and even okoye vibranium spear which is also another 5C weapon and these weapons were amped by the spell of vishanti which as seen with supreme strange amps their weapons and strength via magic yet despite that they couldn’t damage him at all and he tanks the weapons multiple times during the fight and not just once

In infinity war weakened vision tanked a hit from cull with no damage despite cull being 5C

vision is so powerful that in infinity war the Russo brothers outright admitted to plot nerfing him in order to take him out of the movie because he could end the film in 1 page

"I would say we have a difficultly with characters that are too powerful, because if they can solve the problem on page one, where are you going? So we have a tendency, all of us, to look for ways to cripple characters either physically or psychologically. And in this case, Vision gets skewered by a very powerful weapon, and is damaged for the rest of the movie. Systems are failing."

So they hit him with a plot weapon that even negs phasing just so they can write him out of the movie

 

[NaturalDestroyer]

Makes sense to me

 

[Lacku]

Wouldn't this cause circular scaling since Vision was pretty even with Ultimate Ultron iirc

 

[darkphantom9805]

Wouldn't this cause circular scaling since Vision was pretty even with Ultimate Ultron iirc

No it wouldn’t as that’s strength not durability that also would be a feat for ultron

Him fighting ultron doesn’t change that he has multiple 5c feats from tanking vibranium to valks sword to cull hammer with 0 anti feats the only time he was ever damaged was by a plot induced spear to take him out of the film

So either ultron is stronger then the site has him or their fight is an outlier which also works as them being even doesn’t even fit the story vision was the ultimate body for ultron who is supposed to be above his final form

 

[Ptumri9]

I agree.

 

[Dinobot1996]

There is at least evidence to support Vision and Ultimate Ultron being notably powerful than the original Avengers during Age of Ultron.

The Phase Three: Captain America: Civil War novel stated this of Vision's power compared to the other Avengers:

And even without ever getting to use that body himself, Ultron is still described by the Age of Ultron artbook as the greatest threat any of the Avengers had faced up to that point (while Thor did survive the beating he received from Ultron, he was clearly overpowered and forced to stall for time until Vision could intervene):

I guess AoU Wanda could already have 5-C scaling (at least at her angriest) for tearing apart a section of Ultron's torso that was still covered in Vibranium, something which the novel outright states:

 

[ByArrow]

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