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Welcome, this thread will mainly go over how Snyder Cut being canon effects the scaling and some other stuff.
But before all that i would like to briefly talk about Superman heat vision temperature. In this thread it was ultimately decied to that Supes should have a "possibly" raiting for his 3.5 million kelvin heat vision based on the fact that, while he did melt a metal seat, he was ultimately unable to pierce through ships inner shell. However the fact that Supes was able to slightly cut/melt it, i think should be enough to give him the ability without the "possibly", the metal sample from that ship wasn't remotly damaged when it came in contact with 3.5 million kelvin, while Supes was actually able to scratch it. To support this Cyborg's father uses that same machine to heat the Motherboxes and Steppenwolf cassually touches the boxes like nothing happened and Supermans HV does this to him.
The fact that Superman's heat vision was able to make it brim at all shows it's hotter than the 3.5 million kelvin because that didn't make the metal brim. So i propose we remove the possibly raiting from it.
Now onto scaling. (I should note that WW tier (or every character that directly scales to tier 6 besides Enchantress) will get a "likely 5-B" because their SndyerVerse keys are now canon)
Justive League + Flashpoint
I made a sandbox for all Snyder Cut The Flash characters, here is a list of the changes i made for JL:
For The Flash characters, i suggest we give them a likely/possibly high 6-A value via thier flashpoint selfes scaling to The Flash, similar to how General Zod's speed section has a "possibly higher" raiting.
Black Adam
Black Adam and everyone that scales to him currently only "likely" scales to the high 6-A value, i think they should straight up scale to it without the "likely" part.
Black Adam's profile alone already has 3 accepted justifications for him scaling to the top tiers, Dr. Fate also has several statements for being in that level such as 2 statements of him being one of the most powerfull heros in the dceu (1 2) and 3 statements of him having "God level" power (1 2 3 god level here most likely refering to old gods), he also defeats one of the 6 Demons that powers Sabbac and considering these Demons are meant to be a parralel to the 6 Gods that powers Shazam i don't think it's a huge scretch to say that they are relative to each other.
If this is accepted Atom Smasher, Dr. Fate, Black Adam, Shazam and Sabbac will all be high 6-A, likely 5-B.
Lastly Enchantress was accepted to be high 6-A in this thread, but the changes were never applied so i'll apply them after this thread.
Agree: LephyrTheRevanchist
Disagree:
Netural:
But before all that i would like to briefly talk about Superman heat vision temperature. In this thread it was ultimately decied to that Supes should have a "possibly" raiting for his 3.5 million kelvin heat vision based on the fact that, while he did melt a metal seat, he was ultimately unable to pierce through ships inner shell. However the fact that Supes was able to slightly cut/melt it, i think should be enough to give him the ability without the "possibly", the metal sample from that ship wasn't remotly damaged when it came in contact with 3.5 million kelvin, while Supes was actually able to scratch it. To support this Cyborg's father uses that same machine to heat the Motherboxes and Steppenwolf cassually touches the boxes like nothing happened and Supermans HV does this to him.
The fact that Superman's heat vision was able to make it brim at all shows it's hotter than the 3.5 million kelvin because that didn't make the metal brim. So i propose we remove the possibly raiting from it.
Now onto scaling. (I should note that WW tier (or every character that directly scales to tier 6 besides Enchantress) will get a "likely 5-B" because their SndyerVerse keys are now canon)
Justive League + Flashpoint
I made a sandbox for all Snyder Cut The Flash characters, here is a list of the changes i made for JL:
Aquaman: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts.
Batman: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts.
Superman: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts, mentioned him destroying Steppenwolf's armor, added at least to his planet level value since he is vastly above JL.
Darkseid: Made a whole new key for his Uxas self since there is notable difference in their power levels. Can remove some of the statements but the ones on Uxas are just to support his tier and the ones on Darkseid are there to show his growth.
Cyborg: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts, added his scaling to the mother boxes.
Wonder Woman: Replaced her 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts, changed her flight justification, Snyder stated that the reason she doesn't ussually fly is for combat purposes.
The Flash: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts, added his scaling to the mother boxes.
Steppenwolf: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts.
Doomsday: Added his accepted world destroying statement, added him being comparable to Uxas and Steppenwolf.
Batman: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts.
Superman: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts, mentioned him destroying Steppenwolf's armor, added at least to his planet level value since he is vastly above JL.
Darkseid: Made a whole new key for his Uxas self since there is notable difference in their power levels. Can remove some of the statements but the ones on Uxas are just to support his tier and the ones on Darkseid are there to show his growth.
Cyborg: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts, added his scaling to the mother boxes.
Wonder Woman: Replaced her 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts, changed her flight justification, Snyder stated that the reason she doesn't ussually fly is for combat purposes.
The Flash: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts, added his scaling to the mother boxes.
Steppenwolf: Replaced his 2017 JL justifications with that of Snyder Cuts.
Doomsday: Added his accepted world destroying statement, added him being comparable to Uxas and Steppenwolf.
For The Flash characters, i suggest we give them a likely/possibly high 6-A value via thier flashpoint selfes scaling to The Flash, similar to how General Zod's speed section has a "possibly higher" raiting.
Supergir, Zod, Faora, Nam-ek, Flashpoint Barry gets a likely high 6-A value and thats it
Black Adam
Black Adam and everyone that scales to him currently only "likely" scales to the high 6-A value, i think they should straight up scale to it without the "likely" part.
Black Adam's profile alone already has 3 accepted justifications for him scaling to the top tiers, Dr. Fate also has several statements for being in that level such as 2 statements of him being one of the most powerfull heros in the dceu (1 2) and 3 statements of him having "God level" power (1 2 3 god level here most likely refering to old gods), he also defeats one of the 6 Demons that powers Sabbac and considering these Demons are meant to be a parralel to the 6 Gods that powers Shazam i don't think it's a huge scretch to say that they are relative to each other.
If this is accepted Atom Smasher, Dr. Fate, Black Adam, Shazam and Sabbac will all be high 6-A, likely 5-B.
Lastly Enchantress was accepted to be high 6-A in this thread, but the changes were never applied so i'll apply them after this thread.
Agree: LephyrTheRevanchist
Disagree:
Netural:
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