Mapl3Sy4up
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Probably he'd run away from the Decay Spread but never be able to come near, as if he does he dies, though Shigaraki does have tens of km attacks so he could possibly range attack Garou
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Shigaraki VS Garou (1/4/0)
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I think Garou takes it quite easily then. The moment Garou saw shiggy reaching down to the ground he would immidiately know whats up and jump. Then he gets close and puts shiggy on a t-shirt with that skill gap.
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If he jumped, could Shigaraki also shoot a heavy payload+air cannon combination to hit him
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Garou can't fly and will just fall back down.
All Shigaraki has to do is keep his hand on the ground. However Garou stomps if he has prior knowledge, since he'll just use dura negation on Shigaraki's head and kill him.
This fight isn't fair and should be closed. Shigaraki isn't hitting Garou with physical or long ranged attacks, only decay spread would work.
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I see, then yeah this fight no matter what isn't fair
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Funnily enough, those are actually his starting moves when he has the intent to kill.
Most of his fights are fought with the intent to incapacitate his opponents, as he does not kill humans, but when he has gone out of his way to kill his targets—monsters—his opening moves were the Whirlwind Iron Cutting Fist and the Awakening Breath—currently, it is erroneously dubbed the Abandonment technique on his page, but whatever.
Against Royal Ripper and Super Mouse, Garou immediately resorted to his Whirlwind Iron Cutting Fist and sliced then into bits. Hell, even against Superalloy Darkshine, another human who he did not intend on killing, he was using both techniques from the get-go. And, after fully monsterizing and going against Bang, he immediately used the Awakening Breath to boost his abilities.
But yeah, as everyone else has pointed out, this is an unfair fight—long-range Durability Negation vs. short-range Durability Negation, and it could be a stomp on either ends.
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Garou makes deku his bitch
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Garou can become literally tiers stronger by punching people around and Shigaraki is literally has as much chance winning against Garou H2H wise as Goku so that one touch isn't as likely as your implying.
Alr, if Tomura needs deconstruction to win then he has to touch Garou lol.
Assuming your arguing city wide decay, can't Garou run from it or jump away, it's shown here, when he's running away from Orochi's attacks that he got faster and faster so even under speed equal he still has the chance to pace his decay additionally, the moment Garou connects a hit he can simply stun Shigaraki in barrages like this that get progressively faster and stronger while he is executing them. He can barrage for a long time meaning his reactive evolution will eventually make him way stronger than Shigaraki while he is unable to do anything about it (the guy who broke out of the barrage was a tier stronger than him and even then Garou still countered his punch so don't use that as a counter argument).
Due to Shigaraki lacking the skill to actually touch Garou or break out of the barrage, how does he deal with a guy who can basically endlessly barrage him while getting progressively stronger and faster mid barrage who can go on essentially endlessly?
Eventually Garou will be able to counter Shigaraki's regen via AP so what stops him from doing so?
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Shigaraki FRA.
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Sorry to be pedantic but which reasons above? Assuming it's the ones I just quoted in my post above yours haven't I not countered what your voting for (unless you think I got something wrong)?
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This fight is a stomp, no matter which way you look. Either Shigaraki just keeps decaying at a distance, or Garou one shots with his techniques. There is no fair fight to be had here, so I have no idea what anyone is still arguing about.
This thread needs to be closed.
This thread needs to be closed.
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Wdym? It's just a decisive win for either character
Correct me if I'm wrong but has Shigaraki ever continuously decayed the floor? If not then during a period where he takes a break Garou can come in and barrage him.
A stomp is when there are 0 wincons, Shigaraki has wincons, touch Garou, Garou has wincons, reactive evolution + skill advantage + techniques. I've seen several matches where it sounds like the character is being stomped by the winner but has a feasible chance of winning (such as the alien X Vs Saitama match) since that's what a decisive match essentially is.
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You literally state that Shigaraki has no way of doing anything, even question what he could do against Garou, yet now your saying he has a win condition?
That's absurd, either Shigaraki keeps decaying as he has no reason to stop against a grounded opponent. Or he gets stomped by Garou up close with no hope of escape. What wincon do you see here that is fair?
Nothing is fair in this fight.
That's absurd, either Shigaraki keeps decaying as he has no reason to stop against a grounded opponent. Or he gets stomped by Garou up close with no hope of escape. What wincon do you see here that is fair?
Nothing is fair in this fight.
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It spreads.
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SBA means that they'll start at Shigaraki's range of a kilometers, I don't think his range is over 4 km but I'm just going to say a starting distance of 1 km for the sake of it.
Shigaraki is going to start with city wide decay, Garou isn't dumb and won't just run into it. He'll probably get out of the range of decay (It has a limit, doesn't spread forever), meaning Shigaraki has two choices. Wait for Garou to come to him, or jump over to Garou. This will probably be a stalemate unless Garou starts throwing things.
Since Garou at first won't be able to get close enough before Shigaraki starts decaying, his only choice would be to retreat again since even buildings wouldn't be safe. And he is incapable of flying.
The stalemate ends with Garou's reactive evolution increasing his strength and speed by so much that he'll eventually blitz Shigaraki and AP stomp. Garou isn't dumb and won't walk into Shigaraki's death range unless he is certain he can get past that attack.
Air Cannon is worthless, Garou can dodge any ranged attack Shigaraki sends at him. The longer this goes on, the higher Garou's stats become.
Since speed is equalized, Shigaraki will never hit Garou with his city wide decay. He can avoid it by moving out of the range of the attack.
If they start within 1 meter of each other, I imagine Garou just overwhelms Shigaraki with his superior AP and godly skill advantage. Never giving him a chance to decay the ground, and eventually just crushes his head and killing him.
So I'm very curious, what is fair about this fight?
Shigaraki is going to start with city wide decay, Garou isn't dumb and won't just run into it. He'll probably get out of the range of decay (It has a limit, doesn't spread forever), meaning Shigaraki has two choices. Wait for Garou to come to him, or jump over to Garou. This will probably be a stalemate unless Garou starts throwing things.
Since Garou at first won't be able to get close enough before Shigaraki starts decaying, his only choice would be to retreat again since even buildings wouldn't be safe. And he is incapable of flying.
The stalemate ends with Garou's reactive evolution increasing his strength and speed by so much that he'll eventually blitz Shigaraki and AP stomp. Garou isn't dumb and won't walk into Shigaraki's death range unless he is certain he can get past that attack.
Air Cannon is worthless, Garou can dodge any ranged attack Shigaraki sends at him. The longer this goes on, the higher Garou's stats become.
Since speed is equalized, Shigaraki will never hit Garou with his city wide decay. He can avoid it by moving out of the range of the attack.
If they start within 1 meter of each other, I imagine Garou just overwhelms Shigaraki with his superior AP and godly skill advantage. Never giving him a chance to decay the ground, and eventually just crushes his head and killing him.
So I'm very curious, what is fair about this fight?
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What I meant was that once Garou gets to barraging Shigaraki he can't do anything because of the skill advantage but there is always the chance that Shigaraki could tap him prior to the barrage or if Garou wanted to take a pause (like he did against Darkshine).
In character Garou won't just infinitely barrage someone otherwise he would have done that to Darkshine so let me rephrase, during barrages Shigaraki is helpless as he's basically stunned but prior to said barrages there is still a chance Shigaraki can spread decay to Garou by tapping him if he gets close (unlikely but not 0%) or spreading it although Garou can still run.
In character I don't think Shigaraki would just continuously hold the ground but I don't have knowledge so can you detail to me how the scene played out or send scans of him decaying the ground?
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Ik, that's why I argued Garou will run and get progressively faster and faster and out run it, it's not like it will spread to other countries and Garou has the stamina to run from it
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If Shigaraki abuses range then Garou will eventually use reactive Evo to get him but in H2H Garou still takes breaks between doing barrages and during said breaks Shigaraki can tap him, it's very unlikely but even Darkshine who was in a similar skill disadvantage managed to tag Garou while Garou was in spiral form which is more skilled than this form of Garou meaning Shigaraki doesn't have a 0% chance of tagging, it's just very unlikely
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Oof well this went south. It seems it's a stomp either way. This match was kinda of a spur of the moment, but in my mind it was some what interesting. Oh well I have I few other ideas for matches. I'll ask to get this thread closed.
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Garou has no reason to keep outrunning the decay when he has no idea that it still works even if you step at an already decayed construct.
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probably for the best
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The more I look at this thread, the more of a brain concussion I keep getting. With that aside, let's finish this once and for all.
First, with starting distance 10 metres. (Close Range)
Now, here what happens is that Garou can actually land his attacks as the range is suitable for Whirlwind Iron Cutting Fist.
Garou's AP is possible higher than Shiggy's AP and has a massive skill advantage. So, he defeats Shiggy at close range.
Another case would be Long Range. Like, 4 km. Just taking an average because, otherwise there is no way for the fight to occur. A lot of people are saying that Shigaraki just needs to touch the ground and he wins. But that notion is wrong as the speed of the decay is ridiculously low as even 30% Deku and Shoto were both able to react to it. So, I'm pretty sure that Garou can easily outrun it. None of Shiggy's attacks are going to be able to hit Garou as he has insane acrobatics and has experience with dodging far more ranged attacks. Ultimately, Garou is gonna be able to outspeed Shigaraki with his Reactive Evolution and blitzed him.
Still voting for Garou.
First, with starting distance 10 metres. (Close Range)
Now, here what happens is that Garou can actually land his attacks as the range is suitable for Whirlwind Iron Cutting Fist.
Garou's AP is possible higher than Shiggy's AP and has a massive skill advantage. So, he defeats Shiggy at close range.
Another case would be Long Range. Like, 4 km. Just taking an average because, otherwise there is no way for the fight to occur. A lot of people are saying that Shigaraki just needs to touch the ground and he wins. But that notion is wrong as the speed of the decay is ridiculously low as even 30% Deku and Shoto were both able to react to it. So, I'm pretty sure that Garou can easily outrun it. None of Shiggy's attacks are going to be able to hit Garou as he has insane acrobatics and has experience with dodging far more ranged attacks. Ultimately, Garou is gonna be able to outspeed Shigaraki with his Reactive Evolution and blitzed him.
Still voting for Garou.
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I thought it wasn't a stomp but considering the majority just stopped arguing (or didn't argue and just FRA'd) I decided to just leave it
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