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Shigaraki (MHA) vs Sasori (Naruto)

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TheRustyOne

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I hope this will turn out alright.

All For One Shigaraki: 638 Megatons of TNT

Sasori: 35.41 Kilotons, 2.65 Gigatons of TNT with Iron Sand

Over a 4X difference between their 7-A and High 7-A ratings.

Starting Distance = 20 meters

Location = Deika City Crater

Speed is Equalized.

Who wins?

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The Red Sand: (0)

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I'm going to say Tomura Shigaraki beats Sasori. My analysis for both characters and vote is below in the SPOILER tag

Sasori Analysis

Main Win Conditions

Sasori's only win conditions seems to be poison and Iorn Sand from looking at his profile and I'll go into detail below.

The Iron Sand is Sosari's only chance at survival. It holds over a 4x AP advantage (as shown in the OP and thus can block almost any physical assault from Tomura with the exception of "Decay". And though the Iron Sand is incapable of killing Tomura through standard smashing on top of him or stabbing (Unless he crushes/stabs his skull) him due to his high level of regeneration (Mid level), it can be used to attack at a microscopic level and poison him. And yes, while the poison takes 3 days to kill, it's incapacitation time happens right after it enters the target and leaves them crippled.

I see no resistance to poison either on Tomura's page either so that seems to be Sasori's best bet. His other abilities are not used in a consistent manner or would be effective in my opinion but I'll just mention them below so no one could claim inaccuracies.

Supportive Abilities

While he has it, Sasori doesn't use the basic ninja stuff such as Minor Illusion and Duplication, Shapeshiting, or Paralysis Inducement. But I don't believe those (with the acception of Paralysis) would be effective since Tomura has "Search" which allows him to monitor up to 100 people at once so he'll never lose track of Sasori even if he makes a clone or transforms.

Performance of a Hundread Puppets is almost a non issue. Sure, it gives Sasori a small army and since they are all in the air, Tomura's "Decay" won't tag them but that's about it. They are too weak to harm Tomura and thus can't properly deliver their poison, and "Search" would allow him to keep track of the all. Finally, a single Air Cannon that has Tens of Kilometres of range will wipe them out due to them baing to weak.

Sasori's regeneration will no be much of a factor since Tomura is so strong, he'd shatter the puppets beyond just their limbs being dismembered and if he sees Sasori using their limbs as back ups, he can just decay the remains on the floor. Finally, Body Puppetry is helpful but the main issue Is Sasori doesn't have the lifting strength needed to out muscle Shigaraki who is Class T so he can't proporly manipulate him.

Tomura Shigaraki Analysis

Main Win Conditions

Tomura is able to one shot Sasori and any of his puppets due to the gap in AP. Decay may not be able to hit Sasori's puppets (Because all of them minus the Hiriko puppet float in the air) but it can tag Sasori which will force him to jump to avoid it whenever he's on the ground. Decay can also be used on contact so he could decay any puppets he physically comes into contact with, though he's strong enough to one shot them.

He massively out ranges Sasori with Decay and Air Cannons so unless Sasori blocks with Iron Sand (Against the Air Cannon) or jump (Against Decay) he's screwed. Speaking of Decay, it can be used to get rid of the Iron Sand "if" Sasori attacks with it in large solid forms which he occasional does but if he decay's ome block, Sasori won't be stupid enough to send another and will recognize the danger (though if Shigaraki uses Decay right from the start, he'll no not to send the Iron Sand in chunks).

Supportive Abilities

Search will allow Tomura to keep track of Sasori and his puppets so surprise attacks are likely going to be ineffective, plus will allow him to know Sasori's weakness is his heart though most of his attacks will decimate Sasori as a whole. Tomura's Mid level regeneration will allow him to survive but Sasori mainly goes for poison so I don't see thos being too big of a factor but it's notable.

His range/aoe with Air Cannon will allow him to blow away any poison gas and Impact Recoil should be capable of at least stopping some of the impact of large block Iron Sand. Wing and Air Walk will allow Tomura to keep pace with Sasori's puppets if he attempts to send them high up. Warping wil allow him to escape the area if need be but I don't think it will be necessary. (Note: It was cleared up in a comment below that Tomura can't warp himself)

My Vote

I vote Tomura.

He's got the AP, Range/AoE, and Abilities to one shot Sasori and his puppets. His supportive abilities can help him deal with or avoid the Iron Sand and poison without to much trouble. Meanwhile, Sasori's best win condition is using the microscopic Iron Sand to inflict poison on Tomura and incapacitate him. However this won't be easy because of the pressure Tomura would apply in battle with his large scale attacks that would constantly keep him on the move.

I just see Tomura having more of an edge than Sasori, so I'll vote for him.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
Wasn't expecting that, votes added.
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I like to give at least some form of analysis when voting in a match (at least when I can get a clear picture of what the characters can do and know some stuff (which is why I don't really comment on character matches with a ton of hax unless I know them well).
TheRustyOne said:
I'd like to clear up a very small thing, the Warping Quirk has been stated to not work on the user. He can only warp other things to and from his location.

But like you said it isn't necessary.
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Thanks for clearing that up, I added in that in my analysis next to that part.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
I'm going to say Tomura Shigaraki beats Sasori. My analysis for both characters and vote is below in the SPOILER tag

Sasori Analysis

Main Win Conditions

Sasori's only win conditions seems to be poison and Iorn Sand from looking at his profile and I'll go into detail below.

The Iron Sand is Sosari's only chance at survival. It holds over a 4x AP advantage (as shown in the OP and thus can block almost any physical assault from Tomura with the exception of "Decay". And though the Iron Sand is incapable of killing Tomura through standard smashing on top of him or stabbing (Unless he crushes/stabs his skull) him due to his high level of regeneration (Mid level), it can be used to attack at a microscopic level and poison him. And yes, while the poison takes 3 days to kill, it's incapacitation time happens right after it enters the target and leaves them crippled.

I see no resistance to poison either on Tomura's page either so that seems to be Sasori's best bet. His other abilities are not used in a consistent manner or would be effective in my opinion but I'll just mention them below so no one could claim inaccuracies.

Supportive Abilities

While he has it, Sasori doesn't use the basic ninja stuff such as Minor Illusion and Duplication, Shapeshiting, or Paralysis Inducement. But I don't believe those (with the acception of Paralysis) would be effective since Tomura has "Search" which allows him to monitor up to 100 people at once so he'll never lose track of Sasori even if he makes a clone or transforms.

Performance of a Hundread Puppets is almost a non issue. Sure, it gives Sasori a small army and since they are all in the air, Tomura's "Decay" won't tag them but that's about it. They are too weak to harm Tomura and thus can't properly deliver their poison, and "Search" would allow him to keep track of the all. Finally, a single Air Cannon that has Tens of Kilometres of range will wipe them out due to them baing to weak.

Sasori's regeneration will no be much of a factor since Tomura is so strong, he'd shatter the puppets beyond just their limbs being dismembered and if he sees Sasori using their limbs as back ups, he can just decay the remains on the floor. Finally, Body Puppetry is helpful but the main issue Is Sasori doesn't have the lifting strength needed to out muscle Shigaraki who is Class T so he can't proporly manipulate him.

Tomura Shigaraki Analysis

Main Win Conditions

Tomura is able to one shot Sasori and any of his puppets due to the gap in AP. Decay may not be able to hit Sasori's puppets (Because all of them minus the Hiriko puppet float in the air) but it can tag Sasori which will force him to jump to avoid it whenever he's on the ground. Decay can also be used on contact so he could decay any puppets he physically comes into contact with, though he's strong enough to one shot them.

He massively out ranges Sasori with Decay and Air Cannons so unless Sasori blocks with Iron Sand (Against the Air Cannon) or jump (Against Decay) he's screwed. Speaking of Decay, it can be used to get rid of the Iron Sand "if" Sasori attacks with it in large solid forms which he occasional does but if he decay's ome block, Sasori won't be stupid enough to send another and will recognize the danger (though if Shigaraki uses Decay right from the start, he'll no not to send the Iron Sand in chunks).

Supportive Abilities

Search will allow Tomura to keep track of Sasori and his puppets so surprise attacks are likely going to be ineffective, plus will allow him to know Sasori's weakness is his heart though most of his attacks will decimate Sasori as a whole. Tomura's Mid level regeneration will allow him to survive but Sasori mainly goes for poison so I don't see thos being too big of a factor but it's notable.

His range/aoe with Air Cannon will allow him to blow away any poison gas and Impact Recoil should be capable of at least stopping some of the impact of large block Iron Sand. Wing and Air Walk will allow Tomura to keep pace with Sasori's puppets if he attempts to send them high up. Warping wil allow him to escape the area if need be but I don't think it will be necessary. (Note: It was cleared up in a comment below that Tomura can't warp himself)

My Vote

I vote Tomura.

He's got the AP, Range/AoE, and Abilities to one shot Sasori and his puppets. His supportive abilities can help him deal with or avoid the Iron Sand and poison without to much trouble. Meanwhile, Sasori's best win condition is using the microscopic Iron Sand to inflict poison on Tomura and incapacitate him. However this won't be easy because of the pressure Tomura would apply in battle with his large scale attacks that would constantly keep him on the move.

I just see Tomura having more of an edge than Sasori, so I'll vote for him.
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Just to note. Shigaraki does have poison resistance and was shown his body continually evolves to adapt to any toxins or opponents he faces.
 
Maitreya said:
Just to note. Shigaraki does have poison resistance and was shown his body continually evolves to adapt to any toxins or opponents he faces.
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That's only for complete Shigaraki, who doesn't have a key yet.
 
Maitreya said:
I thought all for one Shigaraki just meant current shiggy
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No. We named that key AFO just because he has the AFO Quirk, and that was a long time ago. He'll be split into two keys, Incomplete and Complete.

That's why Shiggy's current abilities from the manga haven't been added yet. Best to drop this conversation here, as this is derailing from the original intention.
 
I'll vote for Shigaraki due to his numerous Quirks, his AP advantage, and his Decay being able to disintegrate all of Sasori's puppets, leaving Sasori with only his Iron Sand as his primary weapon.
 
I assume they're asking because many people still mistakenly believe Shigaraki can't decay sand. Which isn't the case, Shigaraki was unable to decay sand before because of a weakness of his Quirk. Since he needed to touch something with all five fingers.

Touching one grand of sand with five fingers is basically impossible and would only decay that one grain. However Shigaraki no longer requires touching something directly, his decay can spread from object to object now. Which means as long as the sand is in contact with each other, he can indeed destroy it.
 
TheRustyOne said:
I assume they're asking because many people still mistakenly believe Shigaraki can't decay sand. Which isn't the case, Shigaraki was unable to decay sand before because of a weakness of his Quirk. Since he needed to touch something with all five fingers.

Touching one grand of sand with five fingers is basically impossible and would only decay that one grain. However Shigaraki no longer requires touching something directly, his decay can spread from object to object now. Which means as long as the sand is in contact with each other, he can indeed destroy it.
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I see.
 
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