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How? The're weaker than Grade 2 Vegeta.AwkguyDB said:
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Serious Broly upgrades
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Okay here's the full list of Profiles
Based on scaling this would impact.
Because this is a feat from RSSJ Broly anyone on the level of Cell Saga Base Goku or higher would be 3-B this would impact the following:
Goku Toei
Turles (Eradicate the Saiyans Key)
Lord Slug (Eradicate the Saiyans Key)
Cooler (Eradicate the Saiyans Key)
Broly
Pikko
Olibu
Bojack
Zangya
Tapkar
Hatchyyack
Dr. Lychee
Hirudegar
Tapio
Southern Supreme Kai
Dai Kaioshi
Janemba
Gogeta
GT Profiles
Based on scaling this would impact.
Because this is a feat from RSSJ Broly anyone on the level of Cell Saga Base Goku or higher would be 3-B this would impact the following:
Goku Toei
Turles (Eradicate the Saiyans Key)
Lord Slug (Eradicate the Saiyans Key)
Cooler (Eradicate the Saiyans Key)
Broly
Pikko
Olibu
Bojack
Zangya
Tapkar
Hatchyyack
Dr. Lychee
Hirudegar
Tapio
Southern Supreme Kai
Dai Kaioshi
Janemba
Gogeta
GT Profiles
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Remove 13, he's > regular SSJ and has no feats.AwkguyDB said:
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Hell no, that Goku in the movie during that point and time is post Frieza saga level. They weren't even in the ROSAT at the time.AwkguyDB said:
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In summary, Broly should be 3-B because he destroyed most of the Southern Galaxies, almost everyone in the movie confirmed this...
The Narrator at the start: The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack
Paragus, explaining stuff to Vegeta: He is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…
Kaio explaining things to Goku: Goku: The Southern Galaxy attacked by a Super Saiyan? Kaio: Mm. He's already finished tearing up the Southern Galaxy, and appears to be after my Northern Galaxy next.
Kaio, shortly after the above: First go check the Southern Galaxy.
(Goku proceeds to teleport to a planet full of ruined buildings.)
Goku, when Broli powers up a bit during their first little fight: You're the one who destroyed the Southern Galaxy, ain't you Broli?
Goku, repeating himself shortly after the above: He's the Super Saiyan that ran riot through the Southern Galaxy!
Paragus, doing his James Bond villain monologue: The North Galaxy, and of course the Eastern and Western Galaxies, would be undivided under our rule, and an empire belonging to me and Broli would stand for eternity!
(No mention of the Southern Galaxy.).
He was destroying the Southern Galaxies so fast that King Kai was sure that he was going to destroy the Northern Galaxies
Kaio, at the start: Then, the Southern Galaxy really is being…At this rate, even my Northern Galaxy will be destroyed!
And these Galaxies are indeed 1/4th of the universe
"Úèǵ▓│ Galaxy
A gathering of local planets in the universe. Planets gather and form a nebula, and beyond that, a collection of gathered nebulae is called a galaxy. The four Kaiou who rule over the east, west, south, and north [sections] of the universe actually govern these galaxies. Because the Kami in the Heavenly Realm and the Kaiou supervise the galaxies that exist infinitely (obviously not actually infinite) in all the universe, the sections known as the East, West, South, and North Galaxies are denominations that came into use through their duty."
And we know the're quadrants as King Kai was able to send him into 1 Southern Galaxy even tho we saw it get totally destroyed.
And on top of that the're are 3 Universal staments in the movie,if Broly Only was capable of destroying a single Galaxy in 31 years, he wouldn't be a threat even if he can live for thousands of years.
This is indeed consistent with everything after it,first There's the Bojack feat and Kid Buu threatening the destruction of the Grand Kai planet and his fight with Goku crumbling the Kaioshin realm.
To rub more salt in the wound, there's the Yamauchi statement
If this doesn't make Broly 3-B, Nothing will.
The Narrator at the start: The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack
Paragus, explaining stuff to Vegeta: He is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…
Kaio explaining things to Goku: Goku: The Southern Galaxy attacked by a Super Saiyan? Kaio: Mm. He's already finished tearing up the Southern Galaxy, and appears to be after my Northern Galaxy next.
Kaio, shortly after the above: First go check the Southern Galaxy.
(Goku proceeds to teleport to a planet full of ruined buildings.)
Goku, when Broli powers up a bit during their first little fight: You're the one who destroyed the Southern Galaxy, ain't you Broli?
Goku, repeating himself shortly after the above: He's the Super Saiyan that ran riot through the Southern Galaxy!
Paragus, doing his James Bond villain monologue: The North Galaxy, and of course the Eastern and Western Galaxies, would be undivided under our rule, and an empire belonging to me and Broli would stand for eternity!
(No mention of the Southern Galaxy.).
He was destroying the Southern Galaxies so fast that King Kai was sure that he was going to destroy the Northern Galaxies
Kaio, at the start: Then, the Southern Galaxy really is being…At this rate, even my Northern Galaxy will be destroyed!
And these Galaxies are indeed 1/4th of the universe
"Úèǵ▓│ Galaxy
A gathering of local planets in the universe. Planets gather and form a nebula, and beyond that, a collection of gathered nebulae is called a galaxy. The four Kaiou who rule over the east, west, south, and north [sections] of the universe actually govern these galaxies. Because the Kami in the Heavenly Realm and the Kaiou supervise the galaxies that exist infinitely (obviously not actually infinite) in all the universe, the sections known as the East, West, South, and North Galaxies are denominations that came into use through their duty."
And we know the're quadrants as King Kai was able to send him into 1 Southern Galaxy even tho we saw it get totally destroyed.
And on top of that the're are 3 Universal staments in the movie,if Broly Only was capable of destroying a single Galaxy in 31 years, he wouldn't be a threat even if he can live for thousands of years.
This is indeed consistent with everything after it,first There's the Bojack feat and Kid Buu threatening the destruction of the Grand Kai planet and his fight with Goku crumbling the Kaioshin realm.
To rub more salt in the wound, there's the Yamauchi statement
If this doesn't make Broly 3-B, Nothing will.
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I personally still believe Kepekley is being reasonable; there isn't really enough evidence that Broly was nuking 1/4th of the Universe with a single attack. Though, there is a lot of confusion with what "South Galaxy" refers to. I know in GT, it was confirmed that galaxy is a heavy mistranslation and that they're simply quadrants of the universe that contain billions of galaxies each. However, Kepekley notes that South Galaxy was simply treated as a regular sized galaxy in this instance, plus the rest of the South Quadrant was still intact in later scenarios such as Buu Saga and GT. And I doubt that regular Shenron could be assumed to be able to restore all of "galaxies" before Buu Saga happened.
And "Ruling the Universe" or dominating the universe isn't the same as one-shotting the universe, more so that "Nothing in the universe can stop them if the Z Fighters don't". Personally, I think the thread could be closed.
And "Ruling the Universe" or dominating the universe isn't the same as one-shotting the universe, more so that "Nothing in the universe can stop them if the Z Fighters don't". Personally, I think the thread could be closed.
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Please, I ask you not to close this thread yet.
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No one said he destroyed the Southern Galaxies in 1 hit, it took him 31 years to almost destroy it,but he was destroying it at such a fast rate that king Kai stated he would also destroy his Northern Galaxies, this means he has destroyed most of the Southern Galaxies, and We know the Southern "Galaxy" is more than a single Galaxy in this movie as King Kai was able to send Goku to one of the galaxies that remain in the quadrant, even tho in the beginning we see "the" South Galaxy get destroyed.
And the Broly Universal Statements are about destruction, not ruling or anything like that all of them are the Universe is going to be destroyed, But Bojack is a supporting argument and that's it.
And the Broly Universal Statements are about destruction, not ruling or anything like that all of them are the Universe is going to be destroyed, But Bojack is a supporting argument and that's it.
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Also Broly needs a Regenerationn upgrade
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We are not saying that Broly was going to nuke 1/4th of the Universe in a single go or that Broly was a threat to the total Universe based on these statements. But based on Official Dragon Ball material and the context provided within the movie, even destroying 1/4th of the South Galaxy would render as a 3-B feat as stated above each Quadrant contains numerous Galaxies. If they were nearly finished with the South Galaxy and were ready to move on to others it is clear that much of the South Galaxy had fallen under Broly.DarkDragonMedeus said:
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Even if this is rejected, Broly should still be 3-C, as he stomped Ssj2 Gohan (M10) Who in base is equal to Ssj Broly (M10) who is as strong as Lssj Broly (M8), Who is superior or equal with Ssj2s (as Lssj's multiplier from Ssj is above Ssj2's multiplier) who scale to 5.1731257x10^63 Joules, and Ssj2 is at least ×2 Ssj1 as MSsj Gohan stood no chance against Cell but when he turned Ssj2, he was stomping Cell, so that would make Ssj2 Gohan in M10 5.1731257x10^65 Joules, or 4-A+, and because Broly stomped him he would became 3-C, tho baseline 3-C.
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Wasn't it accepted some time ago?GyroNutz said:
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Hasn't it been agreed recently that the reasoning for 40x is flawed?
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Where?LordTracer said:
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MultipliersAdem Warlock69 said:
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It's 50. 50% Frieza = Kaioken x20. SSJ > 100% Frieza. In the Manga Frieza only got 3 good hits on Goku and they barely did anything.
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Also isn't MSsj Superior to Ssj Grade 2? Because if that's the case, it could be in the ×80 ranges.
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Wouldn't it be 50% Freeza > Kaioken x20 Goku and SSJ Goku > 100% Freeza? Kaioken x20 Goku only bruised Freeza's hands, he certainly wasn't his equal.
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They weren't equal, Frieza got stomped. It's in the manga.BlastX said:
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I found this old CRT about Toei Broly Upgrade. I think it uses the same arguments from the OC.
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Eden_Warlock99
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Well It was different in the beginnin, and I explained why the counter arguments to why it was rejected are wrong, because the South "Galaxy" isn't just a single Galaxy, as Goku was able to Go to it even tho we seen it getting completely eradicated, this proves that the South Galaxy is more than a single Galaxy, and if Broly took 31 years to destroy a single Galaxy and was only going to live for 100 years, he wouldn't be a threat to the universe,but that's not the case, and him being a threat to the universe isn't stated only once or twice,It's stated 3 times!!! And on top of that there's the Yamauchi statement. So please, Tell me, is this really not enough for 3-B Broly? It's even consistent with Later feats, I don't get the problem here. I just don't get it.ProudLearner said:
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The only way this could possibly be 4-A is if this is a "south galaxy" in the Northen Quadrant but again completely contradicted by Paragus' and King Kai in the movie. Also we know from the guides that there isn't a singular "south" galaxy in the North Quadrant because there's numerous Galaxies to the point where the guide says the amount is infinite (extremely large uncountable number at bare minimum) that spread across each quadrant. So this still can only be a 3-B feat, 3-C would just be a cop out.
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He means BUMP.Adem Warlock69 said:
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