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Serious Broly upgrades

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Actually, wouldn't Buuhan's feat just be considered 3-A and not Low 2-C? Cause unless I missed something, the Living World is still just considered 3-A and Buuhan was only going to destroy the Living World.
 
GyroNutz said:
Before trying to apply upgrades, put anything new that's been proposed in the OP of this CRT, especially when one of those potential upgrades goes as high as Low 2-C. That way it's a lot easier for people to evaluate.
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Okay

Based on Broly being able to destroy the South Galaxy sector, which contains numerous galaxies, regardless of it being over time it should be a 3-B feat even if the timeframe was 1,000 years but in this case the most it could be was 30 years and not even unless Broly was destroying galaxies as a fricken Infant XD.

Due to Broly, btw as a Restricted SSJ, pulling this off the following Toei Profiles should be adjusted to scale:

Broly

Hatchyyack

Goku Toei

Hirudegar

Janemba

Gogeta

GT Profiles

As for now the rest should be 3-B till you get to 3-A GT. But if Broly's feat is linear wouldn't someone 4x Broly be a 3-A threat?

The Majin Buu feat being Low 2-C should be a whole different CRT in itself since its not really a big deal here. That would more than likely result in more Toei Pages being needed at that point.
 
That was deleted and retconned, but whatever.

The entire website was deleted and updated with new information from the BoG movie. That doesn't mean it was retconned. If it said "Broly is omnipotent", I bet you wouldn't discard it.
 
Janemba being the strongest movie villain is consistent with them needing to go Super Gogeta to beat, as Super Saiyan 3 Goku could overwhelm Kid Buu if he went all out right from the start, and Hirudegarne being easily defeated by Dragon Fist.

Buuhan's Space-Time distortion is hax that's done over time and doesn't scale to durability.
 
AwkguyDB said:
The Majin Buu feat being Low 2-C should be a whole different CRT in itself since its not really a big deal here. That would more than likely result in more Toei Pages being needed at that point.
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Actually it would apply to the GT profiles, at least those that scale to or above Super Baby 1.
 
LordTracer said:
AwkguyDB said:
The Majin Buu feat being Low 2-C should be a whole different CRT in itself since its not really a big deal here. That would more than likely result in more Toei Pages being needed at that point.
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Actually it would apply to the GT profiles, at least those that scale to or above Super Baby 1.
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True but we should focus getting the 3-B approval first and then move on to that discussion
 
Kepekley23 said:
That was deleted and retconned, but whatever.
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The entire website was deleted and updated with new information from the BoG movie. That doesn't mean it was retconned. If it said "Broly is omnipotent", I bet you wouldn't discard it.

Yes, I know, we already agreed that Koyama's statements are death of the author, as he's a Broly Fan Boy,This is now about Upgrading the Toeiverse because of his feat of destroying 1/4 th or the universe in 31 years.
 
Boo has been discussed so many times that it is legitimately becoming tiresome at this point.

He was merely ripping tears in the fabric of reality and weakening its fabric, thus allowing parallel dimensions to rush in and tear through the weakened dimensional walls. This is not worth literally anything other than "good Spatial Manip"
 
I should add the Sigma Force statement was like word for word what he said to Baby "the most awesome Ki I ever felt"

Minus the strongest Saiyan statement, thought it still may be inconsistent.
 
BlastX said:
I should add the Sigma Force statement was like word for word what he said to Baby "the most awesome Ki I ever felt"
Minus the strongest Saiyan statement, thought it still may be inconsistent.
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Also Goku:

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My thoughts on 3-B are that it's bullshit because, in that particular movie, the South Galaxy was clearly being treated as just that: a galaxy, not an entire section of the universe. Herms himself has said so.
 
Can we all please do an anime only profile without including the movies? The movies are very inconsistent and shouldn't be scaled with anime verse at all. Android 13 stated his strongest attack can only destroy half a planet, then we have Cooler who can destroy a star, and lastly Kamicolo get beaten by half Super Saiyan level opponent. The director of the movie even stated that the movie takes place in an alternate timeline from the anime and has no correlation to each other.
 
Kepekley23 said:
My thoughts on 3-B are that it's bullshit because, in that particular movie, the South Galaxy was clearly being treated as just that: a galaxy, not an entire section of the universe. Herms himself has said so.
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And the current Universe in DBS looks just like a single Galaxy and Heaven in the guide looks like a planet. I don't see why what looks like a single galaxy holds more weight than what's actually stated to be destroyed.
 
> What's actually stated to be destroyed

  • Paragus: He is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…
 
Kepekley23 said:
> What's actually stated to be destroyed
  • Paragus: He is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…
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Which doesn't contradict since an area of the South would be a ton of Galaxies
 
@JohnCenaNation, uh no. We don't make duplicate profiles from the same continuities that simply ignore certain entries; that's even more arbitrary than making composites. When making characters from a verse, we take the whole continuity into consideration even if some entries have inconsistencies.
 
By the way, since Broly is stronger than Janemba going by the author statement about Broly being the strongest DBZ villain, does that mean Super Saiyan Goku is now stronger than Super Saiyan Gogeta and Super Saiyan Vegito?
 
Unless the Toeiverse has 4 galaxies max, I don't see the problem especially when it's specifically referred to as THE south galaxy.
 
Kepekley23 said:
> What's actually stated to be destroyed
  • Paragus: He is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…
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Narrator, at the start: The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack


Kaio, at the start: Then, the Southern Galaxy really is being…At this rate, even my Northern Galaxy will be destroyed!


Paragus, explaining stuff to Vegeta: He is wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy with his fearsome power. At his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…


Kaio explaining things to Goku: Goku: The Southern Galaxy attacked by a Super Saiyan? Kaio: Mm. He's already finished tearing up the Southern Galaxy, and appears to be after my Northern Galaxy next.


Kaio, shortly after the above: First go check the Southern Galaxy.

(Goku proceeds to teleport to a planet full of ruined buildings.)

Goku, when Broli powers up a bit during their first little fight: You're the one who destroyed the Southern Galaxy, ain't you Broli?


Goku, repeating himself shortly after the above: He's the Super Saiyan that ran riot through the Southern Galaxy!


Paragus, doing his James Bond villain monologue: The North Galaxy, and of course the Eastern and Western Galaxies, would be undivided under our rule, and an empire belonging to me and Broli would stand for eternity!

(No mention of the Southern Galaxy.).
 
Kepekley23 said:
> Heaven in the guide looks like a planet
Heaven is literally a planet.
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Yes exactly but we know that Heaven is the size of the Universe. So how could a Galaxy(sector) in Dragon Ball not appear in the same form as a Galaxy(body of space) with just being larger and filled with smaller clusters of galaxies. Again this is the literal same representation of the Living Realm in DBS.
 
@JohnCenaNation, we literally retracted that statement.
 
JohnCenaNation said:
By the way, since Broly is stronger than Janemba going by the author statement about Broly being the strongest DBZ villain, does that mean Super Saiyan Goku is now stronger than Super Saiyan Gogeta and Super Saiyan Vegito?
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my guy that was the first thing debunked on the thread

Death of the Author Fallacy
 
Zamasu Chan said:
Unless the Toeiverse has 4 galaxies max, I don't see the problem especially when it's specifically referred to as THE south galaxy.
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It's not called the "THE south galaxy", it's called "the Southern Galaxies". And Toeiverse having 4 Galaxies gets debunked by GT itself saying there are way more than that.
 
Which another thing that should be talked about

RSSJ Broly = threat to a single sector of Galaxies

LSSJ Broly = a threat to all sectors within the Universe?

3-A Broly?
 
Wasn't there also a statement about Anime Frieza being a universal level threat as well?

Edit: Kepekley23 beat me to it.
 
Though if it took him 30+ years to destroy one sector of numerous galaxies I don't think he could destroy the universe in one go. It could just be an overtime statment for the Universe.
 
Universal threat =/= Universe buster. Kid Buu was a universal threat even in the Dragon Ball manga, but it's best assumed he'd destroy every planet and star in the galaxy one by one.
 
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