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SCP Discussion Thread

Why is scarlets regen always High-Mid? With other gods having no regen or low to mid godly, scarlets regen seems kinda irrelevant for his profile to have.
 
He just doesn't have better feats. Actually most gods don't really have regen at all. Just some form of Abstract Existence.
 
Saikou_The_Lewd_King said:
It's not really acknowledged on the profiles because it's not worth indexing (although we could probably mention it somewhere), but it's considered a different version of 2719. 2719's Tier 0 and High 1-A feats aren't from Kaktusverse.
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It is acknowledged, it says that it was created by 3812 on the profile. If it's a different version shouldn't it be removed entirely?
 
It's there literally just to justify its age, not for any kind of scaling. And even then, you can see that 2719 has a very much not-Tier 0 key, right? It being created by 3812 doesn't mean 3812 has to scale to the 0 or High 1-A.

We can probably put a note there to justify that, but 2719 is very much not used for 3812's stats right now.
 
It's the dead body of Dr. King possessed by 2747 who became the Scarlet King.

At least, to my understanding.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
???

Where does everyone get this from? Nobody touched resistances in the revision.
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i meant like before the revisions he had a ton of resistances

like resistance to BFR, death manipulation, poison manipulation, soul manipulation, magic, vector manipulation, physics manipulation, etc

For some reason I don’t see them on his page any more
 
Because those aren't resistances?

682 doesn't resist BFR because it just has dimensional travel and really long range. 682 doesn't resist death manipulation, it isn't alive in the first place. 682 doesn't resist magic, it has been harmed by magic before but just adapted to recover from it. It was very objectively not resistant to vector or physics manipulation, merely had more durability than the thing manipulating its vectors.

All the things you think its resistant to does not count for resistance. The thing is just very resilient.
 
6820-A is at best equal to 2747/6747-C when they exist on the level of a Foundation narrative. Its Constant form is way above regular 2747 and 6747-C and equal to the Constant form of 2747. But 2747/6747-C when reaching the Proxyverse narrative are way higher than any 682 key.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
It's the dead body of Dr. King possessed by 2747 who became the Scarlet King.

At least, to my understanding.
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I think Placeholder said, in their headcanon they admitted, that they think SK and 2747 are the same being or entity or something.
 
Saikou_The_Lewd_King said:
6820-A is at best equal to 2747/6747-C when they exist on the level of a Foundation narrative. Its Constant form is way above regular 2747 and 6747-C and equal to the Constant form of 2747. But 2747/6747-C when reaching the Proxyverse narrative are way higher than any 682 key.
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So if I get it right, when reaching Proxyverse, 2747 and 6747-C are both equal to each other and 682 even in his tier 0 keys is nothing to them?

How do 2747 and 6747-C even work? Are they pretty much 3812 on steroids?
 
2747 and 6747-C are basically just variations of each other. They should be roughly equal in whatever level they end up at. Although I guess 6767-C would be slightly better since it's actually controlled by a sentient being and has better versatility.

These two can climb actual big narratives instead of 3812's smaller narratives. Although they do it a lot slower and need essentially extra help to ascend, unlike 3812.
 
Saikou_The_Lewd_King said:
2747 and 6747-C are basically just variations of each other. They should be roughly equal in whatever level they end up at. Although I guess 6767-C would be slightly better since it's actually controlled by a sentient being and has better versatility.

These two can climb actual big narratives instead of 3812's smaller narratives. Although they do it a lot slower and need essentially extra help to ascend, unlike 3812.
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Also had 2 questions in mind, what's the likelihood or what conditions would need to be met in order for 3812 to end up back in High 1-A? And does 6747-C still count as The Scarlet King?
 
SCP-6747-C is technically a manifestation of the Scarlet King, yes. But it's a highly atypical one.

Also for 3812 to be High 1-A or higher you'd need to:

1. Prove 3812 ascends past the Noosphere by the end of his journey, probably becoming on the level or higher than the Paragons.

2. Prove 3812 can ascend the full, big Narratives described in Place's stuff, although this would endanger our current Tiering, given that it's partially based on the Noosphere transcending the Kaktusverse narratives.

4. Prove that Kaktusverse narratives are High 1-A via their own feats instead of scaling to other interpretations
 
Saikou_The_Lewd_King said:
SCP-6747-C is technically a manifestation of the Scarlet King, yes. But it's a highly atypical one.

Also for 3812 to be High 1-A or higher you'd need to:

1. Prove 3812 ascends past the Noosphere by the end of his journey, probably becoming on the level or higher than the Paragons.

2. Prove 3812 can ascend the full, big Narratives described in Place's stuff, although this would endanger our current Tiering, given that it's partially based on the Noosphere transcending the Kaktusverse narratives.

4. Prove that Kaktusverse narratives are High 1-A via their own feats instead of scaling to other interpretations
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Is there any ranking as to what the top 3 current strongest SCPs would be?
 
You guys scaled too many people to the (Swann) entities.

Bright is a good example of this as his article was specifically stated to not follow the Placeholder model.

Do SCP-2614, SCP-3134, SCP-4028, SCP-5500, Director Menard's Department and Director Pangiotolous's Department exist in the Placeholder-Ike model?

Anything that has ever happened on the SCP Wiki happened in some timeline in the SCPverse, according to the Placeholder-Ike model. However, as previously stated, any other version of how Pataphysics works only appears to be true, but in actuality is allowed to appear this way because of the Placeholder-Ike model.
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Even articles canon to the placeholder model, like SCP 6500, doesn't show the proxy verse but rather some random author entity. Why did you guys choose this manner of scaling? It probably would have made a lot more sense to scale them to the patasphere since it, alone, is ridiculously big.
 
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Bright is a good example of this as his article was specifically stated to not follow the Placeholder model.
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It wasn't. The person asking the question asked if 5500, among other things, existed in his model.

He simply said, in response, that everything that happened on the Wiki happened in his cosmology. But that if Pataphysical models that work differently than baseline were included, they'd be "fake" in the same way 3812 is. He's not saying that everything mentioned by the person asking the question fit under that category.
 
In hindsight IHP made SCP 5500 and Placeholder views him as an contributor if not outright co-creator to his model so it wouldn't make sense for 5500 to not be cannon.
 
Anything interesting from the SCP-7000 contest "The Loser" which is the current top rated entry seems to have a powerful probability manipulator which was to be expected given the theme.
 
Saikou_The_Lewd_King said:
It wasn't. The person asking the question asked if 5500, among other things, existed in his model.

He simply said, in response, that everything that happened on the Wiki happened in his cosmology. But that if Pataphysical models that work differently than baseline were included, they'd be "fake" in the same way 3812 is. He's not saying that everything mentioned by the person asking the question fit under that category.
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Makes sense.
 
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