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SCP Discussion Thread 5

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If we're accepting the notion of Djoric's tales sharing a universe with Acidverse then yes, the God tiers would be safe and would be High 1-B
 
WeeklyBattles said:
we'll be lucky if anything goes above tier 2
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I felt physical pain reading this sentance.

What is Alagadda's place in the SCP mythos now?
 
But we're not (with the current regulations) scaling off of authors saying other works are canon to theirs. So I believe Yald, Mek, SK, TBD, and THK are all basically featless.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
If we're accepting the notion of Djoric's tales sharing a universe with Acidverse then yes, the God tiers would be safe and would be High 1-B
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unless Djoric made acidverse, we're still ****** under Dargoos rules
 
@Sir Ovens Alagadda is, I guess, a meeting of 3 dimensions?
 
No, the guy who wrote Acidverse literally said that Djoric's tales share a universe with Acidverse and were written to have minimal contradictions
 
How I understood it and made sense to me is that, even if not written by the original author (but if it was, it would be even better), as long as the canon hub was onsistent with itself, it could scale within that canon (heck, I believe that's how they literally do it in the scp wiki). But if it needs to have relation with the original author no matter what, then yeah, 90% of the verse is going down the drain.
 
How I understood it and made sense to me is that, even if not written by the original author (but if it was, it would be even better), as long as the canon hub was onsistent with itself, it could scale within that canon (heck, I believe that's how they literally do it in the scp wiki). But if it needs to have relation with the original author no matter what, then yeah, 90% of the verse is going down the drain.
 
I don't think Dargoo would accept that even if Djoric said that their tales share a universe with Acidverse.

The most we could pull from that statement is that Djoric's tales are canon to Acidverse, but not the other way around, and since Djoric created the characters, they're not canon to Acidverse, while any characters from Acidverse would scale to Djoric's tales. This is assuming we'd accept author statements which, from memory, Dargoo was against, and should probably be discussed in the thread about SCP regulations
 
So having a Monica profile with an extended Apotheosis canon tab is not allowed?
 
It would be allowed, because the creator of the SCP featuring Monica added it to the Apotheosis canon. Since they're in a mutual collaboration with a shared creative vision, it's allowed.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
So we'd also be going against what is directly stated to be canon
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If you think about it everything's directly stated to be non-canon :^)

Also relax guys, Monica's part of the Apotheosis canon hub. Dargoo wrote the regulations this way so stuff like apotheosis/antimemetics division would still scale.

The original creator of Monica added that page to the Apotheosis hub, and so it scales to everything in Apotheosis hub, even stuff written by other authors.

4) Canon/Series/Collaboration: Series of articles that are clearly brodcasted as a collaboration, with a hub specifying which tales and SCPs exist in that canon, are allowed to have scaling feats within themselves. Due note, however, that this only applies to tales and SCPs specifically written for a canon/series. For example, while SCP-3125 is consistent in all of the Antimemetics stories, SCP-055 was not originally written for the series, and therefore feats and abilities from the canon cannot be applied to it.
 
That... honestly doesn't make sense. The individual profiles shouldn't get cross scaled but the canon hubs are their own continuity. Everything within a hub is played out like any comic book, multiple writers contributing to an overarching story. I feel there should at least be tabs for that.
 
@Sir Basically we're being limited to what is stated in an SCP's article, ignoring any interactions between SCPs in atricles, and everything else is disregarded

Like i said before, if this happens, the verse as we know it is dead and will never be able to come back
 
Going back to the SW analogy. This is the same as Disney taking the EU, but instead of making it all canon to itself, just throw it all away.
 
At the very least, once the dust settles, the God tiers should not be anything less than tier 1. They are not SCPs, they are extended canon. They shouldn't be subjugated to the same treatment as the scips.
 
Sir Ovens said:
At the very least, once the dust settles, the God tiers should not be anything less than tier 1. They are not SCPs, they are extended canon. They shouldn't be subjugated to the same treatment as the scips.
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They're going to be given the same treatment tho
 
Sir Ovens said:
That... honestly doesn't make sense. The individual profiles shouldn't get cross scaled but the canon hubs are their own continuity. Everything within a hub is played out like any comic book, multiple writers contributing to an overarching story. I feel there should at least be tabs for that.
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That's what I was thinking.
 
Reiterating my quote earlier from Dargoo's guidelines, clarifying that Canon hubs will be canon.

4) Canon/Series/Collaboration: Series of articles that are clearly brodcasted as a collaboration, with a hub specifying which tales and SCPs exist in that canon, are allowed to have scaling feats within themselves. Due note, however, that this only applies to tales and SCPs specifically written for a canon/series. For example, while SCP-3125 is consistent in all of the Antimemetics stories, SCP-055 was not originally written for the series, and therefore feats and abilities from the canon cannot be applied to it.
Also the god tiers would likely just be unknown. Even though they're not SCPs, they'd still see the same issues with them. "They shouldn't scale to tales the creator of them doesn't even know about" "Anyone can just add abilities if their writing's good enough". They've mostly come to a conclusion, but maybe we could go back to the thread and try to convince them otherwise?
 
Agnaa said:
Reiterating my quote earlier from Dargoo's guidelines, clarifying that Canon hubs will be canon.
4) Canon/Series/Collaboration: Series of articles that are clearly brodcasted as a collaboration, with a hub specifying which tales and SCPs exist in that canon, are allowed to have scaling feats within themselves. Due note, however, that this only applies to tales and SCPs specifically written for a canon/series. For example, while SCP-3125 is consistent in all of the Antimemetics stories, SCP-055 was not originally written for the series, and therefore feats and abilities from the canon cannot be applied to it.
Also the god tiers would likely just be unknown. Even though they're not SCPs, they'd still see the same issues with them. "They shouldn't scale to tales the creator of them doesn't even know about" "Anyone can just add abilities if their writing's good enough". They've mostly come to a conclusion, but maybe we could go back to the thread and try to convince them otherwise?
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unless like 5 mods come out of nowhere and agree with us, no
 
@HI3 They may be willing to change their mind on letting the god tiers be extended canon.
 
Let's put it this way. No one who just found out about the site knows who the dumb didily flip Mekhane is. It's like Dark Souls, you dig around, read a thing or two here and there, and then you get a better understanding of the lore going on in the background. The identity of the God tiers is something that was created to be sort of like an inside joke, spawned by the community and only something the community knows about. If you say that the God tiers need to be treated like scips, you're tearing an identity apart because there are close to no scips directly about the God tiers.

Long story short, dismantle the current ratings for SCP profiles, but please don't touch the God tiers.
 
"Ryukama I'm gonna stop commenting here since I'm on edge. My final thing to say though is this.

SCP should be scaled to these others if

1. SCP has an umbrella which connects all stories regardless of their canonicity to one another like Marvel.

2. If Swann is explicitly the supreme god of this umbrella.

I haven't seen any evidence for these 2 things though. And if there is none, then no scaling. Also if no one's even getting an upgrade like it seems to be suggested, then no point to this topic in general."

This what Ryukama stated in the upgrade thread. If we prove that "umbrella", then is GG.
 
That's specifically and only about S Andrew Swann scaling to the High 1-B statement. As the alternative is Swann is Tier 2.
 
The fact that the supreme creator deity of the verse would be several infinite levels of infinity lower that the things it created shows a few holes in the train of thought for these revisions
 
The first one would be easy if there wasn't that Hub about the girl who dreamt up the Foundation.

The second point is easier. Every time Swann (001) is mentioned, it is explicitly referred to as a higher dimensional entity or an entity that supersedes the narrative.

Logically, if everything within the SCPverse is a narrative, Swann supersedes it all. The only problem with that is that Swann is never touched upon when the other God tiers are involved. So I could see that as a reason why Ryu would think that way.
 
Holyhotsauce said:
Agnaa said:
That's specifically and only about S Andrew Swann scaling to the High 1-B statement. As the alternative is Swann is Tier 2.
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my heart can't take this kind of stress.
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Well look at the bright side debating A tier 2 plot manip and proipilty manip is way more intersting than a tier 1B thats no one to debate with
 
Sir Ovens said:
The first one would be easy if there wasn't that Hub about the girl who dreamt up the Foundation.
The second point is easier. Every time Swann (001) is mentioned, it is explicitly referred to as a higher dimensional entity or an entity that supersedes the narrative.

Logically, if everything within the SCPverse is a narrative, Swann supersedes it all. The only problem with that is that Swann is never touched upon when the other God tiers are involved. So I could see that as a reason why Ryu would think that way.
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try telling that to Kep
 
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