SCP-682 fights Arceus (GRACE)

[manu_zarri]

I've legimately Ctrl + F and didn't found anything about uncountable infinities. Can you elaborate?

has been evalutated as uncontable infinite due to omega and his explanation

Spoiler: Low 1-C part

That limiting world had spawned another more advanced still, and that one another. And they'd created another limit. Two infinite chains standing beginning to end. Then three, four, five….

The mathematicians working for us at the time said they were following a pattern called "transfinite recursion". A process by which a linear ordering could be extended beyond the simple infinity of "1, 2, 3…".

First an infinite chain of universes. Then 2, then 3…

Then an infinite chain of infinite chains. Then 2, then 3.

Then repeat. Each time there are as many of the last thing as there are numbers, repeat again.

In the end, each universe had a place in an order that was as deep as mathematically possible.

There, at the very end, one step beyond even the incredible power of this unending recursion, shining on the metaversal horizon, was Omega.

Our legacy. Every single piece of knowledge, every feeling, and thought, and idea, every strongest love and deepest hate, metaphysics, storytelling, further ideas I cannot even hope to comprehend. The full knowledge of every possible intelligence, arranged in every possible way, all churning and bubbling and moving inside the thoughts of a single being with infinite memory. With enough space inside its head to simulate all of history in an instant, to dream the entire process leading to its creation in a night.

4555 created us, and in the end, together, we created God.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ok I can see the "2-A, likely Low 1-C" reasoning yeah.

 

[Teezar]

has been evalutated as uncontable infinite due to omega and his explanation

Spoiler: Low 1-C part

That limiting world had spawned another more advanced still, and that one another. And they'd created another limit. Two infinite chains standing beginning to end. Then three, four, five….

The mathematicians working for us at the time said they were following a pattern called "transfinite recursion". A process by which a linear ordering could be extended beyond the simple infinity of "1, 2, 3…".

First an infinite chain of universes. Then 2, then 3…

Then an infinite chain of infinite chains. Then 2, then 3.

Then repeat. Each time there are as many of the last thing as there are numbers, repeat again.

In the end, each universe had a place in an order that was as deep as mathematically possible.

There, at the very end, one step beyond even the incredible power of this unending recursion, shining on the metaversal horizon, was Omega.

Our legacy. Every single piece of knowledge, every feeling, and thought, and idea, every strongest love and deepest hate, metaphysics, storytelling, further ideas I cannot even hope to comprehend. The full knowledge of every possible intelligence, arranged in every possible way, all churning and bubbling and moving inside the thoughts of a single being with infinite memory. With enough space inside its head to simulate all of history in an instant, to dream the entire process leading to its creation in a night.

4555 created us, and in the end, together, we created .

Seen

 

[manu_zarri]

Ok I can see the "2-A, likely Low 1-C" reasoning yeah.

"Likely Low 1-C" was due to canonicity problem.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

The 2-A standard only affects AP not range. Just have reminder

 

[StrymULTRA]

The 2-A standard only affects AP not range. Just have reminder

We all know that here. Heck, range is what matters here with such big size.

 

[manu_zarri]

The 2-A standard only affects AP not range. Just have reminder

hm you are talking about the infinite multiverses stuff?

 

[StrymULTRA]

hm you are talking about the infinite multiverses stuff?

Yeah, but when you deal with Type 9 Large Size is kinda necessary talking of how many multiverses you can affect

 

[manu_zarri]

Yeah, but when you deal with Type 9 Large Size is kinda necessary talking of how many multiverses you can affect

for 682 isn't a problem the arceus size, but sadly he lacks of concept manipulation, so ye incon

 

[StrymULTRA]

for 682 isn't a problem the arceus size, but sadly he lacks of concept manipulation, so ye incon

I was talking in general

 

[manu_zarri]

I was talking in general

ye, sorry

 

[Phoenks]

2-A is so incredibly low for the SCP gods I thought they had gotten upgraded already. Are some of the Low 1-A and 1-A statements just ignored? Like the uncountable dimensions and whatnot? Not to mention all the 1-C stuff, what happened to that CRT?

 

[manu_zarri]

2-A is so incredibly low for the SCP gods I thought they had gotten upgraded already. Are some of the Low 1-A and 1-A statements just ignored? Like the uncountable dimensions and whatnot? Not to mention all the 1-C stuff, what happened to that CRT?

Originally 1-B, got downgraded 2-A because didn't flit in current wiki standards. Low 1-A is a thing, but only dudes which surpass the foundation narrative. But I don't remember any CRT that was going to scales narratives to the creation. the 1-C stuff wasn't actually enough due to being temporal dimensions, and becuase it was vague apparently, that's vsbw tho.

 

[Phoenks]

Yeah imo the Tree is 1-A or Low 1-A but I guess the arguments for it aren't acceptable on here for whatever reasn

 

[Rabbit2002]

SCP Multiverse sounds baseline and I don't see any type 2 concept manip nor resistance to it nor resistance to Sealing.

Yeah llama stomps reptile.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/scp-revision-thread-with-some-big-concept-nep-regen-stuff-of-scp.117368/

 

[WeeklyBattles]

SCP Multiverse sounds baseline and I don't see any type 2 concept manip nor resistance to it nor resistance to Sealing.

Yeah llama stomps reptile.

I mean...no? 682 has resistance to both of those things on a tier 1 level, both of which ar in fact listd on 682's profile. Arceus has nothing that can do anything to 682

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Again this is just another incon match

 

[Lou_change]

682 scales above Yaldabaoth

Didn't it take a tons of Leviathans to beat Mekitea who had to basically use a suicide move to incap yaldabaoth(one tale implies that one of their arcons could destroy the king's entire army but that might be from the recreation of everything weaken the scarlet king) SCP-076's god form or was that destroying the tree(I feel that these tales contradict dragon and warrior but I guess their mortal forms are more equal and can't recognize the actual God forms of each other)

 

[Rabbit2002]

I mean...no? 682 has resistance to both of those things on a tier 1 level, both of which ar in fact listd on 682's profile. Arceus has nothing that can do anything to 682

where those thing listed in his profile? CM3 not 2. Range of 2719 only at least planetary, unless you scale from Tier 1 stuff

 

[WeeklyBattles]

where those thing listed in his profile? CM3 not 2. Range of 2719 only at least planetary, unless you scale from Tier 1 stuff

Both are from the tier 1 stuff

 

[Rabbit2002]

Both are from the tier 1 stuff

Where is CM2 ?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Where is CM2 ?

From SCP-343

Basically unlss Arceus becomes Low 1-C it has no way to permanently do anything to 682 due to 343 maintaining 682's existence

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also 682 is getting High-Godly regen so conceptual erasure isnt going todo anything

 

[manu_zarri]

Again this is just another incon match

is that a vote?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Aren't the God tiers like 682 or smth supposed to get cm2?

 

[manu_zarri]

Aren't the God tiers like 682 or smth supposed to get cm2?

they already have CM2 but it's only CM and 682 is outdated so he dosen't have it.

 

[Rikimarox2]

I mean, if he gets it, then he should fodderize no? He has the range to do so.

Sadly, it probably is gonna take decades to update SCPs abilities.

 

[manu_zarri]

Sadly, it probably is gonna take decades to update SCPs abilities.

that's why it's a incon.

or i can just make a CRT now but eh

 

[manu_zarri]

bump

 

[manu_zarri]

bump

 

[manu_zarri]

bump

 

[manu_zarri]

bump

 

[Rikimarox2]

I thought I voted, but apparently not.

It's an incon since 682 can't affect Arceus due to abstract existence, and Arceus not being able to kill 682 due to virtually resisting everything.

 

[manu_zarri]

I thought I voted, but apparently not.

It's an incon since 682 can't affect Arceus due to abstract existence, and Arceus not being able to kill 682 due to virtually resisting everything.

Counted, 2 votes till grace

 

[Stillwinston]

Incon FRA

 

[manu_zarri]

Incon FRA

counted

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Incon FRA

 

[manu_zarri]

Incon FRA

aaand grace

 

[bey]

with the damn lizard and this entire conversation going to a place that Idk where to. Incon Fra

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I thought I voted, but apparently not.

It's an incon since 682 can't affect Arceus due to abstract existence, and Arceus not being able to kill 682 due to virtually resisting everything.

Tfw with the upcoming Mekhane rework 682 will be able to affect Arceus pretty easily