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The arguments for Zoro are that because it's a fun match she isn't gonna use her eyes and he will kill her before that. Or that because he can read intention he isn't gonna be affected by fate hax.
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Santōryū vs Niten Ichi-ryū
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people still haven’t given an answer to how Zoro is dealing with concept manip
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Her "Fate Hax" are literally her just choosing what outcome she wants. It has nothing to do with actual direct high tier fate manip (until she reaches zero)
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Honestly I can't even tell at this point? The argument was that since a bracelet took the brunt of the damage from Musashi's Eye's that there are some options to defend against them such as Busoshoku Haki hardening which makes the skin much harder than Steel so it provides as a good counter to slashing based attacks, especially one that's aren't internal.
That's the best I got, then I finessed the thread with my bait lol.
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You haven't given an answer on when she used it to cut down people's concepts that aren't fodder, and aren't from post-zero with Ivan.
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And how is zoro dealing with that? If there is an outcome here she wins she chooses it
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Her concept Manipulation isn't like any of the conceptual Manipulation in the site since Nasu doesn't follow any of the forms we have.
What does it do?
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That and that he blitz with amps before she think and use fate hax.
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Regardless I'll vote incon, but please dear God, after this next match I'm making, can we avoid Fate vs One Piece?
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I don’t need to because he doesn’t have concept manip so even if it works on fodder it does t matter he can’t resist it
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All ******* servant read intention it's on servant physiology and reading intention doesn't bypass fate manipulation.
If you guy want to make that reasing intention create new futur that was erased then make a crt.
It's not a fun match like the basic rule of vsb is that player consider the match as a death match just doesn't change their characters, fck musashi wanting to fight isshin is by atk is back lol
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Why you lie?
Her fate hax is shaving fate she doesn't chose, her zero have praticaly nothing to do with fate hax
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PLEASE DO! nobody asked for this (who even thought this match was a good idea anyways?)
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Also Fate vs One Piece used to be fun as **** to debate, I still remember the Semiramis vs Luffy threads from a few years back that was very enjoyable.
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They enjoyable when i don't see ******* guy changing the ability of perso or creating new ability for zoro
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Because she sees a "route" that leads to the best outcome and still has to actively follow it. Zoro's precog keeps up with her CURRENT actions and negate said route entirely.
You're misunderstanding Kenbunshoku's way of precognition with regular instinct and reading one's intentio-- oh wait, I said this PAGES AGO.
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Please calm your **** Regidan.
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John985
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yeah it doesnt follow, but it was agreed the potency of it is Type 1.
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Catch these hands!
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What new ability? The future thing is canon in One Piece, that wasn't made up but it's not like them choosing random fates and future's, they can just indirectly change the immediate future.
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That is not what the profile says what her fate had does. It says it limits it done to one possibility so he can’t change anything unless he has fate manip
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Oh ok well in that case I'll still vote for Zoro due to his sheer versatility advantage
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Not this, the one about them be abe to indirectly create futur when these futur are erased. It's basically fate manipulation which he don't have.
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I'm sorry, this is just too funny. 9 pages of this and it ends like this. -u-
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True!!!!!!
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She don't see "route", why people always like to change ability ?
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Soon 10 pages.
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Then the profile is confusing it altogether, because it literally says "if she wants to cut an arm she'll try every means necessary to reach that goal." It doesn't mean she instantly does it because she willed it. She'll know everything she has to do to reach it.
When fighting a precog user, they'll just foresee what you're trying to do and not let you get there at all. Or in Yagyu's case, he's just more skilled and she wouldn't be able to regardless of the means she takes.
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Anyway I got a much better Fate match in my mind, and it doesn't involve Heroic Spirits either.
My DP vs Kirei or Kiritsugu sound good?
My DP vs Kirei or Kiritsugu sound good?
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This brings it to my attention. She has precognition and everyone uses it defensively when it literally says "it's used to wield her blade on the spot"?
It literally says "SHE'LL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET IT DONE" if she wants to cut an arm. It isn't acausality control where the result of the arm being cut is the reason the sword is swung, she still has to ACTIVELY TRY to cut the arm off.
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I would like but it's not the first time it happens, it was the same with sasaki and they used like the same excuse.
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Yeah, that actually makes a lot sense now.
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Dor yagyu case like i tell she just create a new possibilities when she can do it but it with zero so doesn't count here
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but trying to change the outcome isnt possible without fate manip.
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