Get that shit calced or it doesn't matter. Also, Sans isn't a robot, he can modify his tactics and absolutely will considering he's also able of reading Junko's face (her talent does not protect her from this as she was able to read Izuru, whose version of the talent is superior by nature) and will realize she can't afford to tank his attacks.
That was debunked.
Apologies if I have offended you, then, but I have considered your arguments, and the conclusion I came to is that no matter when your account was made, you are not very knowledgeable about this wiki's workings, yet you keep making those arguments. If you conceded on that I'd be super willing to explain stuff to you, but I find it quite irritating to debate with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. A 500x gap is more than a one-shot. It's absolute annihilation.
Verse equalization would presumably allow this fight to happen without Sans having the overwhelming advantage of being able to fight just Junko’s soul in a turn based manner. Yes, his actual attacks will probably kill her in a few blows due to her sins, but he has to land those and his TK doesn’t apply KR.
Can you tell me a good opponent for sans I can’t think of any
We don't consider UT attacks to hurt the soul anymore. We consider them similar to physical attacks, they just kill by destroying the soul. KR is also responsible for less than 30% of Sans' damage output, nevermind that being 9-A, he one-shots anyway.
Thank you for the apology but you’re still acting the same, that attitude is what I’m describing. You have been talking down to me, accusing me of being ignorant to the way the site works and still ignoring my counter statements.
Durability and toon force I must once again stress! Slamming her into the ground and walls won’t meaningfully hurt her, and he’s never directly crushed anyone’s body with just TK so he doesn’t do that.
I am ignoring the ones that are wrong, I've given responses to the ones that aren't, at least not undeniably so. I don't mean to talk down to you, but I have seen ignorance towards VSBW's workings. Which is fine, it's not like you can't debate unless you know every single tenet of it, but you're insisting on your stances which are based on flawed logic.
Oh yeah, I forgot, Junko literally cannot hurt Sans. And she wouldn't know that by reading his expression, because he sees humans as far stronger than him.
This I’m willing to believe. But under the circumstances of them being speed equalized it made sense that he couldn’t hit her with his magical attacks apart from telekinesis, which we have been debating it‘s ability to one shot her.
Can I ask something
I still don't agree with that, though it isn't too relevant. None of her skill feats are on danmaku-dodging level.
It's a fine match AP-wise, though I don't know how interesting it's gonna be.
His 1st move is blocking the opponent to the ground with increasing their gravity and then spamming bones/blasters against them, Junko never showed to counter such attacks.
To be fair, Sans’ Damaku is hardly the level of a Touhou character to use an example. Not the same scale you know? I think Junko could dodge it with her Analysis talent.
On another thread, this is already too long.
And it isn’t even necessarily over either. Junko still has two wincons.
It's comparable or superior to the weakest Touhou characters, and it requires a wider variety of skills to dodge.
Danganronpa humans can dodge bullets with reaction only, and you think that they can dodge some danmaku (plus comparing it with Touhou is laugable since that verse is the highest level of Danmaku of the wiki)?
Even assuming she pulls out her phone (or whatever she uses to show the despair video, assuming she does have something) at the very first second of the fight, Sans is gonna attack faster.
Huh, thanks for telling me then. I only ever played this really hard mobile game where the screen gets filled pretty damn fast. Sans is more wild and hard to react to than that, even if there are more in that game.
Assuming she can use them before getting instantly haxxed to death.
People should stop comparating UT and Touhou danmaku-wise since Touhou is superior to any danmaku ability of other verses in this wiki.
Yeah Ik I already posted it https://vsbattles.com/threads/sans-undertale-vs-steve-minecraft.111265/
Speed is equalized and they don’t start in particularly close range as far as I can tell. I think the light from the video can enter Sans eyes before his attack reaches her.
I mean, Sans gets absolutely wrecked by anyone competent in Touhou, but I'm sure he's above a first stage boss unless there's some lore stuff I'm missing, IDK Touhou.
I mean, the act of pulling out a phone, opening it and selecting a video is slower than slamming your arm down.
His 1st move is increasing Junko's gravity, blocking her on the ground and then spamming bones and blasts against her.
To be fair it's more of a LS thing than an AP thing... and we have no idea what UT LS is.
Lifting Strength I assume.
Lifting Strength
12 meters IS Sans' range. He'll start with gravity hax at that range, same as any other way. Besides, does the video actually mindhax you the second you catch a glimpse of it?
It certainly seems to stun you as the mind hax happens, so it’s effectively immediate unless you possess a level of resistance, which may not be enough as even otherwise strong willed characters were affected all the same.
I want to reiterate that TK is his weakest attack and he only slams people into things with it, so I’m sceptical if it will get passed Junko’s toonforce blunt damage resistance.
