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even if TK don't work, i still vote incon
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I never saw Yemma granting Old Kai a body, but here we areboth had bodies, no permision from Yemma, no body and you just become a smoke thing
This is all ignoring the fact that the gap between San's speed and the blasters is 2 times at most, and considering he isn't firing at point blank range, Frieza should still be able to dodgeNah most of them are from Sans being able to kill him faster and Frieza not being able to dodge them since blasters are faster than both. No one voted just because of TK.
we never saw, but we know he did since we saw souls without a grant body look likeI never saw Yemma granting Old Kai a body, but here we are
faster than 2 timesThis is all ignoring the fact that the gap between San's speed and the blasters is 2 times at most
teleporting freeza into the blasts, and considering he isn't firing at point blank range, Frieza should still be able to dodge
He can but its not likely.This is all ignoring the fact that the gap between San's speed and the blasters is 2 times at most, and considering he isn't firing at point blank range, Frieza should still be able to dodge
Weren't these souls on the way to the check in station to be processed by Yemma?we never saw, but we know he did since we saw souls without a grant body look like
The gap between Hypersonic's lowest end and highest end is 2 timesfaster than 2 times
Is that his first move though? Since if not he's gonna need to also do that too, and I didn't see Sans teleporting during that clip I sawteleporting freeza into the blasts
After the first attack he starts teleporting after that its kinda randomized I guessIs that his first move though? Since if not he's gonna need to also do that too, and I didn't see Sans teleporting during that clip I saw
So we can't even know what he'd do then? So after Frieza just dodges, he simply fires a death beams and the blast from it will kill Sans, or just simply flaring his ki and sending a kiai to SansAfter the first attack he starts teleporting after that its kinda randomized I guess
yes, and the specific reason for goku not looking like them is because Yemma alowed him to have a body, his soul alone is like the othersWeren't these souls on the way to the check in station to be processed by Yemma?
and sans reaction is hypersonic+ with blasters listed as higher than thatThe gap between Hypersonic's lowest end and highest end is 2 times
Is that his first move though? Since if not he's gonna need to also do that too, and I didn't see Sans teleporting during that clip I saw
what?So we can't even know what he'd do then?
instinctive reactions would save sans from thatSo after Frieza just dodges, he simply fires a death beams and the blast from it will kill Sans
does freeza know kiai? and also again instinctive reactionsor just simply flaring his ki and sending a kiai to Sans
Again Aoe? No it wouldn't, especially if they fight in a close area. Besides, Frieza flaring his ki is enough to kill Sans like he did to his goons in RoFinstinctive reactions would save sans from that
Every ki user can do it. It's a simple ki strikedoes freeza know kiai? and also again instinctive reactions
No no he starts off that can probably kill Frieza then starts using danmaku and teleportation and other thingsSo we can't even know what he'd do then? So after Frieza just dodges, he simply fires a death beams and the blast from it will kill Sans, or just simply flaring his ki and sending a kiai to Sans
maybe, but he also has to worry about the blaster who are faster than him, gravity being changed by sans and all the other dozens projectiles being trow at him, i am not saying that freeza can't win, just trying to make sans advantages very clearSans seems to have a small window between teleporting and attacking, something that Frieza can use to his advantage
It also helps you dodge stuff that are coming from behind or things you can’t seeInstinctive reaction just means you react without thinking, it doesn't actually make the action performed, such as the dodge any faster.
Also yeah he did it against ssj Goku on namek, launching him through the ocean.does freeza know kiai? and also again instinctive reactions
Which he can just dodge because he's at a distance and while Sans attack he doesn't do anything else until he finishesNo no he starts off that can probably kill Frieza then starts using danmaku and teleportation and other things
Which is not gonna be easy and he will probably fail at dodging all of that danmaku and dieWhich he can just dodge
Thats turn based game mechanics he can attack and dodge at the same time but UT has a systembecause he's at a distance and while Sans attack he doesn't do anything else until he finishes
i don't see how that correlates? i am just saying that freeza just firing a death beam would not mean that he can hit it on sansInstinctive reaction just means you react without thinking, it doesn't actually make the action performed, such as the dodge any faster.
Death beams can explode lad.i don't see how that correlates? i am just saying that freeza just firing a death beam would not mean that he can hit it on sans
You forget the part where it explodes. The blasts are explosive, and Frieza will certainly go for the kill and do iti don't see how that correlates? i am just saying that freeza just firing a death beam would not mean that he can hit it on sans
you were talking about the death beam, which is very smallAgain Aoe? No it wouldn't, especially if they fight in a close area.
it is a wincon sure, but if he get hit too much he may not have a opportunity to do thatBesides, Frieza flaring his ki is enough to kill Sans like he did to his goons in RoF
every user can, but do all of them know how to?Every ki user can do it. It's a simple ki strike
you were talking about the death beam, which is very small
You forget the part where it explodes. The blasts are explosive, and Frieza will certainly go for the kill and do it
Death beams can explode lad.
when using the death beam freeza usually aims at the target, not at the ground close to the target, but i guess he would figure it out that he has to do that eventuallyYou forget the part where it explodes. The blasts are explosive, and Frieza will certainly go for the kill and do it
Friezas first death beam when going final exploded and killed Dande, and iirc his second missed Gohan and blew up an island.you were talking about the death beam, which is very small
Frieza literally uses it against Goku on namek so whether they all can doesn't matter, the person who matters knows how.every user can, but do all of them know how to?
That doesn't relate to what I say. You continously ignore the point that death beams explode, such as herewhen using the death beam freeza usually aims at the target, not at the ground close to the target, but i guess he would figure it out that he has to do that eventually
Invisible attacks would not work since sans was able to dodge while sleepingfreeza wincons: every attack can one shot sans, has AOE with ki explossions, might destroy the planet or nuke the area which would kill sans, can use invible ki blasts as well as damaku
sans wincons: every attack damages freeza's soul and poison it, huge damaku, higher reactions and instinctive reactions, an attack faster than both him and freeza(since speed is equal), can teleport him, freeza and his attacks enabling him to control the situation of the battle and hit freeza
i think that this is everything
He can't dodge aoe blasts though, which getting hit once means he diesInvisible attacks would not work since sans was able to dodge while sleeping
yeah, but he is aiming at sans, he would need to aim at the ground near sans, but anyway i already agreed to itThat doesn't relate to what I say. You continously ignore the point that death beams explode, such as here
Change the distanceFight takes place in Last Corridor
Pretty sure that one death beam exploding in the background is enough to nuke Asgore's intire castle that they are in.yeah, but he is aiming at sans, he would need to aim at the ground near sans, but anyway i already agreed to it
btw i am out, bye
Yup, considering that's exactly what he did to King Vegeta's castle even in his first formPretty sure that one death beam exploding in the background is enough to nuke Asgore's intire castle that they are in.
So? Even if it misses, the aoe damage would reach Sans and kills him. Frieza also aimed directly at the Saiyans when he blasted King Vegeta's castle away, and landed the hit on Dende as the blast exploded on himyeah, but he is aiming at sans, he would need to aim at the ground near sans, but anyway i already agreed to it
Pretty sure he decides to blow up the planet when he gets rekt very badly. Like that time Toppo beat the crap out of Frieza ot that time he was about to doe to Vegeta.this is golden frieza so yes it is in character for him to do as i described
That was in the past. Currently his death beams just pierced through objects without exploding. Like when it just shot through that bat thing during the tournament of power.So? Even if it misses, the aoe damage would reach Sans and kills him. Frieza also aimed directly at the Saiyans when he blasted King Vegeta's castle away, and landed the hit on Dende as the blast exploded on him
Because he can't kill during the Tournament of Power, the rules were very clear and disobeying would cause him to be erased. Not a particularly good argument if you ask me. Also, he can do this and just kill him by merely powering upThat was in the past. Currently his death beams just pierced through objects without exploding. Like when it just shot through that bat thing during the tournament of power.