Sans vs Ghost Rider Round 2

[Apatheticskell]

Agreed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

God already has ressurection. GR cannot fie fue to god, that is type 8 in a nutshell.

 

[MrKerf]

I mean... It is specifically said "will be revived by God should he die but still be needed". So, I'm assuming that this is not automatic process?

 

[Apatheticskell]

@MrKerf you voted?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It is automatic. As long as Sin exists he'll just be brought back evey time.

 

[MrKerf]

@MrKerf you voted?

Not yet. I'm still researching about speed. Though I'm think that Sans would win.

 

[Schnee_One]

Why?

Hit does Sans beat his immortality and regen?

He can't

 

[MrKerf]

Why?
Hit does Sans beat his immortality and regen?

He can't

I guess he can bypass his regen via "poison" damage to soul. And he can't beat his immortality, althouh I doubt that it will work at all (see my previous post).

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

More like GR uses Penance Stare and he gets mind controlled.

Also Punisher resisting it is just plain wtf.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

You gotta love the Pis.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Wait, both are bloodlusted?

GR paradoxes/BFRs

 

[DMB_1]

Isn't this a stomp?

GR can just stare at Sans and kill him.

And why is Sans listed as Undead in his categories, when skeletons and other monsters in Undertale aren't undead?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

The Punisher was able to resist the penance stare because he regretted nothing of killing his enemies.

Look at that shit eating face.

IMPOSSIBLE! NO ONE CAN JUST DEFLECT THE PENANCE STARE!

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean... It is specifically said "will be revived by God should he die but still be needed". So, I'm assuming that this is not automatic process?

I don't see why it isn't from that

 

[Apatheticskell]

victory via BFR isn't counted.

 

[MrKerf]

I mean... It is specifically said "will be revived by God should he die but still be needed". So, I'm assuming that this is not automatic process?

I don't see why it isn't from that

I see it as following: God see him dead, think about his significance, and only then God will revive him.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

lmao what

It's part of Standard Battle Assumptions

You can't restrict that. Also BFR is a win condition since he can't escape from Hell if he doesn't have dimensional travel.

 

[Apatheticskell]

It's written in the OP that BFR doesn't count as a win.

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't see why it isn't from that
I see it as following: God see him dead, think about his significance, and only then God will revive him.

Is that supposed to be a problem?

God revives him and GR kills Sans.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Yeah, but Sans manipulates GR's skull, it cracks and them GR comes back it breaks instantly. Inconclusive.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Nah, GR paradoxes.

 

[Apatheticskell]

BFR not allowed.

 

[MrKerf]

I don't see why it isn't from that

I see it as following: God see him dead, think about his significance, and only then God will revive him. Is that supposed to be a problem?
God revives him and GR kills Sans.

No, not a problem. However, before I was asking about why GR has Immortality, If it is automatic progress that it's fine. But if not, that he shouldn't have it and it should be considered an outside help.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Paradoxing isn't BFR. He goes back in time and kills Sans in the past. Done.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Make a crt for that, because we don't consider that outside helps.

 

[MrKerf]

Paradoxing isn't BFR. He goes back in time and kills Sans in the past. Done.

What is paradoxing? I mean, in this topic.

 

[Apatheticskell]

GR is always bloodlusted and he never uses time travel to kill.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

He is not bloodlusted by the wiki's definition.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Dude, this guy has killed sooooo many people without his time travel. If really wanted to kill people who commit crimes why not just travel back?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It doesn't matter. Bloodlusted means that he'll use any possible ting he has to win.

 

[Apatheticskell]

He has been bloodlusted many times and he has lost his fair share of battles while he was bloodlusted.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Norse Berserkers are examples of fighters who were naturally bloodlusted in real life

Summary
Bloodlust refers to a state where a character is fighting without any inhibitions, and cares about nothing other than defeating the enemy.

Bloodlusted characters fear nothing, and won't hesitate taking injures if it leads to a higher probability of winning a battle.

A bloodlusted character will not be victim to Character Induced Stupidity, and will be much more likely to speed blitz opponents (if doing so is within their powerset).

Some characters are naturally bloodlusted, and act this way in their own fictional continuity.

Some Examples

• Evangelio Units in Berserker Mode
• Guts while wearing the Berserker Armor
• Kid Buu
• Nodos during Mental Chaos
• Kisame Hoshigaki
• Zangetsu
• SkullGreymo
• The Saint Of Killers

It should be noted that there are differences between natural bloodlust (the kind that exists within fictional continuities) and induced bloodlust (the kind used in a vs. thread). Induced bloodlust means the character is free from Plot Induced Stupidity, whereas naturally bloodlusted characters are still vulnerable to this, and are often hampered by it even more than level-headed characters. For example, they may simply attack recklessly, without planning or thinking, or using their powers creatively


Read this, all of it.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Ok? Removed blood Lust for GR.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Wow, can you spell Spite.

 

[Apatheticskell]

Can I add natural bloodlust?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

......

If you keep changing rules in favor of Sans, we're not going to come to a conclusion.

 

[Schnee_One]

You can do whatever

You can bloodlust Sans and make GR in character

It doesn't matter because he can't beat the immortality and thus gets stomped

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't see why it isn't from thatI see it as following: God see him dead, think about his significance, and only then God will revive him. Is that supposed to be a problem?
God revives him and GR kills Sans.

No, not a problem. However, before I was asking about why GR has Immortality, If it is automatic progress that it's fine. But if not, that he shouldn't have it and it should be considered an outside help.

Outside help isn't restricted if it's tied to the character, so that's moot.

Seriously, me and multiple others said this dozens of times

 

[Apatheticskell]

......

If you keep changing rules in favor of Sans, we're not going to come to a conclusion.

No, I'm not changing the rules in Sans' favour because outside help, BFR and time papradox will result in a stomp. GR is not in character he has natural bloodlust.

 

[MrKerf]

Outside help isn't restricted if it's tied to the character, so that's moot.

Seriously, me and multiple others said this dozens of times

True. But I don't think this is the case. Think about it. If God want, he will resurect him. If not, then not. Again, if it would be auto ressurect, than it's fine, but in this situation it's not that.