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Sans(Undertale) vs The Judge(OFF) Round 2

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The previous thread was out dated so I out figured I'd rather make my own.

Speed equalized.

Sans is bloodlusted while Pablo is in character.

The Judge starts of as his tutorial version while Sans starts with his "on days like these kids like you" blah blah blah (aka Bloodlusted.)

Battle takes place in the Judgement Hall.

They start Dozens of meters away from each other.

No PREP TIME but they have prior knowledge of each other when they meet via 4th wall breaking.

KR does NOT do damage based on sins.

Sans: 8? (ApiesDeathbyLazors, Ricsi-viragosi, Jamesthetaker, Steven Pogi Paitoa, The Wright Way, Videogamer1265, lapitus The Impaler, Saikou The Lewd King?.)

The Judge: 1 (Luke Merod)
 
"Knowledge via 4th wall breaking"

Neither is able of doing that.


KR is not KARMA? It's canonically called that in-game. I'll guess that you mean no LOVE=Stronger KR.

Don't make sans bloodlusted, just his genocide self.


I'll vote later
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
"Knowledge via 4th wall breaking"

Neither is able of doing that.


KR is not KARMA? It's canonically called that in-game. I'll guess that you mean no LOVE=Stronger KR.

Don't make sans bloodlusted, just his genocide self.


I'll vote later
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Knowledge via 4th wall breaking was just poor excuse lmao. And in another thread(Sans vs Tohru) I brought up the concept of KR being Karma and it was denied.
 
Everything wrong with this fight -

  1. Judgey Cat is a 4-B with resistance to Soul Manipulation
  2. Speed is Unequalized when Mr. The Judge is Massively FTL
  3. Judge can paralyze and poison Sans
  4. The Judge can make Sans blind!
  5. Oh and both can teleport
Even if you equalize speed, I'm not sure Sans has many options. As it stands now this is the worst stomp I've seen for a while.
 
1. Soul Manip resist is meaningless against Sans. Frisk had it in spades yet died instantly.

2. Yeah it should definitively be equalized. I don't know why the OP thought it could have ever worked out.

3. Needs to actually hit him

4. Same as above

5. The Judge doesn't spam teleportation as much as Sans.
 
Ok equalized speed but the judge is not MFTL I'm pretty sure with that MFTL calc Saikou and Jaften said that there were problems with that calc and I agree that the Judge and the rest are not MFTL probably FTL- FTL+ but even sans is FTL - FTL+
 
For the last time, Sans is no where near FTL.

As for the fight, I think I'm gonna give this to Sans. He's bloodlusted, so he won't be wasting any time. He'll catch the Judge in bone prisions, teleport the Judge into his own projectiles, summon gaster blasters right in Judgies face. And he'll be quick about it too. No wasting time with speeches about birds and sunshine, just boney death.
 
Since KR is now KARMA, it basically means Sans has absolutely no hopes of winning. The more LOVE you have, the stronger KR is, right? And you gain LOVE by killing, right? Well The Judge has only killed one person (depending on the player's choice, even 0) and it was to save the universe and avenge his brother. With The Judge's Solar System level durability and basically can't be affected by KR, all The Judge has to do is hit Sans once or just use Matter Manipulation to dispose of the lazy skeleton.
 
Since when was it concluded KR is now Karma? I mean don't get me wrong I made the CRT but this wiki still has'nt concluded that. Only five people in this wiki agreed and none of them were admins. Also in this thread KR does'nt do damage based on sins. I don't know if we are allowed to do that though?
 
Well, KARMA is literally listed on Sans' powers and abilities. And saying KR doesn't do damage because of sins is iffy because it has only been used against a genocidal maniac. But The Judge has Matter Manipulation and Conceptual Manipulation (even though it's minor CM it will still be able to get rid of Sans). And Sans likely can't dodge The Judge's special moves, as they're likely not physical attacks. Still going for The Judge.
 
Luke Merod said:
Well, KARMA is literally listed on Sans' powers and abilities. And saying KR doesn't do damage because of sins is iffy because it has only been used against a genocidal maniac. But The Judge has Matter Manipulation and Conceptual Manipulation (even though it's minor CM it will still be able to get rid of Sans). And Sans likely can't dodge The Judge's special moves, as they're likely not physical attacks. Still going for The Judge.
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It is fanon to say that they aren't physical, and the only way to think that would be to say that they are litiral brain damage, which doesn't work either.

Also, how was cenceptual and matter manip used in battle again?
 
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