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Yes. I'm doing this (mainly to test the waters + plus I know OPM goons will slide)

Saitama vs John Cena

We'll be using Saitama's 9-B+ During Training Key, as well as Cena's 9-B key for this fight (didn't want to run the risk of using Saitama's Pre-Training key since it could potentially be a stomp)

Speed will be equalized

Fight takes place in Z-City

"YOU CAN'T SEE ME!": 1 (@Robo432343)

"100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and 10 km running. Every single day!!!": 4 (@Tural2004, @SheevShezarrine, @LegendariumOfLies, @ShionAH)

Inconclusive:

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I restricted Saitama at 9-B?

Unless Saitama can go from 9-B to 7-A in an instant, then I don't see the problem.
If its restricted, I am voting John Cena. Saitama has a speed adv (Subsonic vs Superhuman), but it shouldn't be too much. Only real issue is Accelerated Development which took place over 3 years.
 
Saitama has a speed adv (Subsonic vs Superhuman)
Speed is equalized btw
Only real issue is Accelerated Development which took place over 3 years.
Really? I thought if Saitama was pushed past his limits he can one-shot people that were once stronger and more skilled than him

At least, that's what I heard from other OPM supporters
 
Speed is equalized btw
John Cena is going to backshot Saitama lmao
Really? I thought if Saitama was pushed past his limits he can one-shot people that were once stronger and more skilled than him

At least, that's what I heard from other OPM supporters
That sounds more like Garou. Anyway voting Cena, but I am willing to change my mind if any OPM Supporters make good args.
 
That sounds more like Garou. Anyway voting Cena, but I am willing to change my mind if any OPM Supporters make good args.
it isn't, no. That's how the Supernatural Willpower works in OPM

Saitama was being stomped to death by a monster and quickly surpassed him in an instant
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John Cena is not winning
 
it isn't, no. That's how the Supernatural Willpower works in OPM

Saitama was being stomped to death by a monster and quickly surpassed him in an instant
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John Cena is not winning
Is this when Saitama pushes past his limits?

Also was this monster initially far stronger than Saitama?
 
Also what I'm getting at is that in order for Saitama's AD to kick in, he needs to be given an actual challenge to face.
 
Oh, I think the Wall+ value comes from this calc
Aight so now Saitama has a ~1.82x physical advantage over Cena.

Somewhat noticeable, but nothing Cena can't overcome.

Saitama's SW is not the only factor here. Cena has SW himself, and he has insane stamina feats, so it very much comes down to endurance here.

However, both of their SW's are a little different.

Cena's SW comes from powering out of someone's mind control via sheer will alone, as well as taking punishment he shouldn't logically get back up from.

Saitama's SW activates when he's at his absolute limit, and then he ends up surpassing his limits to quickly finish his opponents off.
 
Aight so now Saitama has a ~1.82x physical advantage over Cena.

Somewhat noticeable, but nothing Cena can't overcome.

Saitama's SW is not the only factor here. Cena has SW himself, and he has insane stamina feats, so it very much comes down to endurance here.

However, both of their SW's are a little different.

Cena's SW comes from powering out of someone's mind control via sheer will alone, as well as taking punishment he shouldn't logically get back up from.

Saitama's SW activates when he's at his absolute limit, and then he ends up surpassing his limits to quickly finish his opponents off.
SW in OPM is better IMO since it has everything that Cena's SW has but with a lot of extra things, Saitama's SW gives him everything written here
 
SW in OPM is better IMO since it has everything that Cena's SW has but with a lot of extra things, Saitama's SW gives him everything written here
The resistances section is pretty moot for the most part (Cena is a fighter, not a Supernatural being lol), but yeah this is a pretty fair argument to make.

Cena ain't really the kind of guy to kill someone though.
 
How would this play out? What does Cena's skill grant him that makes him have an advantage over Saitama?
Well, it would definitely give Cena an initial advantage despite the disadvantage in AP. Plus Saitama iirc doesn't like going all-out at first so Cena's skill advantage can potentially exploit that.
 
Both are superhuman but Cena seems to be around 480 lbs while Saitama scales to a man throwing cars. Wait isn't that Class 5
Whoa whoa whoa-

John Cena does not scale to 480 lbs (if that's the case then he wouldn't be Superhuman in the first place).

Cena is Superhuman for these reasons:

Was able to give Mark Henry a good run for his money in an arm wrestling contest. While clearly inferior, he was able to somewhat hold his own against Bobby Lashley in a test of strength. His show of strength startled Batista.

For further explanation, Mark Henry is capable of breaking chains, Batista, is comparable to people like Bobby Lashley who he also had a test of strength with, and he was actually even with Lashley. Lashley can tear a rope in half, flip a car, and have a competitive arm wrestling contest against Braun Strowman.

All of these feats range anywhere from Class 5 to Class 25. Cena being able to do those feats I mentioned above requires at least Superhuman LS.

Cena and Saitama are roughly even in terms of LS.
 
The LS is weird, and unsure how that would play out.

That said, Saitama's SW activates when he pushes his absolute limits, ie when he's getting dogged around via someone massively superior to him, which Cena... Is not. Hell, saitama has the AP advantage here.

I don't know jack about saitama's skill feats, but I remember Cena's being a bit formidable in the skill department.

Assuming the LS is somewhat similar, and Cena is above him in skill, couldn't Cena just incap Saitama or smth considering Cena doesn't go for the kill?

Also would Saitama really go for the kill against normal guy that has no visible supernatural powers and is just some... Wrestler?
 
Assuming the LS is somewhat similar, and Cena is above him in skill, couldn't Cena just incap Saitama or smth considering Cena doesn't go for the kill?
how he's going to incap Saitama? And no, he doesnt need to be stomped to grow in strength, if he's having a lot of emotions he will also become stronger
 
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