Hasty12345
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no since 2-A structures have parallel timelines, perpendicular temporal axes are beyond tier 2's scope.
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Saint Seiya High 1-B Upgrade (Manga)
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no, UNLESS those cosmologies have evidence that each timeline or 4D Time-Space exists on a different temporal axis
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makes sense. Then the focus should really be on proving that these are higher temporal axes since that would inherently make them perpendicular and thus result in a high 1-B structure
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we don't even need higher temporal axis
We just need to prove that each axis
Is a different axis
Hasty12345
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No, they don't need to be higher. The notion of "higher temporal axis" is more conducive to the idea they are parallel. The focus is on proving they are perpendicular.
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I think we've done a good job. However nothing will get approved until we get staff on this thread
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but didnt we establish that these are essentially the same?
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okay that's where I'm lost I have no idea how that'll prove it tbhwe don't even need higher temporal axis
We just need to prove that each axis
Is a different axis
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let me explain why they are NOT the same
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A=Spacetime.
B=Infinite ammount of space times.
Imagine a Chess board that has a infinite amount of places.
Let's say that A is a queen and it takes a rook
In chess(IRL) you move the piece above the piece you wanna take; It would be like A transcending another A which would make A 5D
Now let's say the chess board is a universe.
There exists a infinite amount of chess pieces which(are all B) they each occupy a different temporal axis
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we have; because I already proved that there existed a infinite temporal vector space
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my arguments are unstoppableNow that the thread has slowed down, I'm going to add the votes.
Let's hope the thread doesn't vanish into the void
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That just added to the confusion
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uuhhhhH
coordinate=separate dimension=higher scaling
infinite ammount of coordinates
Now infinite dimension!
Me high 1-B!
coordinate=separate dimension=higher scaling
infinite ammount of coordinates
Now infinite dimension!
Me high 1-B!
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my next analogy will be about pizza
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okay no please stop, this isnt helpful. Im just asking hasty what he thinks the difference (if any) is between perpendicular time vs higher temporal axis and why they're not the same as we presumably established previously
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ohhhhhhhhhhh
my bad gang, I thought you like didn't understand at all
Hasty12345
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They are the same on the wiki.
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pretty sure what hatsy is going to say is that
higher temporal axis is if something beings transcended and perpendicular time axis is that there's multiple temporal Vectors
higher temporal axis is if something beings transcended and perpendicular time axis is that there's multiple temporal Vectors
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see? thats all I wanted to confirm. so really as I said before we just need to prove that they are either perpendicular or higher since they're the same on the wiki and it makes sense (since parallel ones are explicitly not higher temporal dimensions)
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I think you're misunderstanding a bit. multiple spatial vectors (say a R^7 space) is inherently a tier 1 space. However according to the wiki if you have multiple temporal vectors then it doesnt achieve the same result unless you prove they're a higher axes (or perpendicular as hasty and i said are the same)
Hasty12345
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The bolded parts are the same.
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you need to prove that even for spatial vector. Just saying "this universe has 6 spatial dimension" isn't enought
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how? thats the part where Im lost. How would multiple temporal dimensions be inherently perpendicular or "higher" than each preceding one?
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spatial dimensions are ALWAYS perpendicular to one another there's no exception to this rule
Hasty12345
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same way 2D and 3D differ.
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nah hasty, that logic only works for spatial dimensions which we know are inherently perpendicular to one another (you can NEVER have a 3-space where 1 spatial dimension is parallel to length for example)
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if this was the case then most tier 2 would have been tier 1. You need context. In your exaple you assumed that those spatial dimensions were already higher spatial axis.
Hasty12345
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The logic is the same for all perpendicular vectors.
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no thats just the wiki having standards on what it thinks qualifies as evidence for higher spatial dimensions. Thats not the same as claiming that spatial dimensions are parallel unless proven otherwise or most verses with a 3D universe would be down to 1D. A fourth spatial axis is inherently perpendicular to the 3 we already know
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Im pretty sure thats not how the wiki treats them even if I agree with you
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no, only 3D and most of the time also 4D are assumed to be perpendicular by defoult. For a 5th or/and higher time or spatial axis you need to proove perpendiculatity
Hasty12345
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The wiki throws logic out the window in tier 2.
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you got that right but we cant really play by our own standards if we wanna get big changes passed
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tier 2 is so goofy
Hasty12345
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This whole thread has been DB fans crying and debunking low 1-C DBS.
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is this even about saint seiya anymore
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maybe but here's my final thoughts on that:
1.) I do think the dbs blog does a better job at demonstrating a higher temporal flow with the time travel example from the verse
2.) we really oughta stop bringing in another verse. One reason dbs crts were constantly stonewalled was because many people kept bringing up GOW so lets stop that
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