Hasty12345
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no since 2-A structures have parallel timelines, perpendicular temporal axes are beyond tier 2's scope.wouldn't this make every 2-A cosmology into high 1-B though?
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no since 2-A structures have parallel timelines, perpendicular temporal axes are beyond tier 2's scope.wouldn't this make every 2-A cosmology into high 1-B though?
no, UNLESS those cosmologies have evidence that each timeline or 4D Time-Space exists on a different temporal axiswouldn't this make every 2-A cosmology into high 1-B though?
makes sense. Then the focus should really be on proving that these are higher temporal axes since that would inherently make them perpendicular and thus result in a high 1-B structureyes, and that's the entire premise of DB's low 1-C and what this CRT attempts to prove but on an infinite scale.
we don't even need higher temporal axismakes sense. Then the focus should really be on proving that these are higher temporal axes since that would inherently make them perpendicular and thus result in a high 1-B structure
No, they don't need to be higher. The notion of "higher temporal axis" is more conducive to the idea they are parallel. The focus is on proving they are perpendicular.makes sense. Then the focus should really be on proving that these are higher temporal axes since that would inherently make them perpendicular and thus result in a high 1-B structure
but didnt we establish that these are essentially the same?No, they don't need to be higher. The notion of "higher temporal axis" is more conducive to the idea they are parallel. The focus is on proving they are perpendicular.
okay that's where I'm lost I have no idea how that'll prove it tbhwe don't even need higher temporal axis
We just need to prove that each axis
Is a different axis
let me explain why they are NOT the samebut didnt we establish that these are essentially the same?
we have; because I already proved that there existed a infinite temporal vector spaceokay that's where I'm lost I have no idea how that'll prove it tbh
my arguments are unstoppableNow that the thread has slowed down, I'm going to add the votes.
Let's hope the thread doesn't vanish into the void
That just added to the confusionlet me explain why they are NOT the same
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A=Spacetime.
B=Infinite ammount of space times.
Imagine a Chess board that has a infinite amount of places.
Let's say that A is a queen and it takes a rook
In chess(IRL) you move the piece above the piece you wanna take; It would be like A transcending another A which would make A 5D
Now let's say the chess board is a universe.
There exists a infinite amount of chess pieces which(are all B) they each occupy a different temporal axis
That just added to the confusion
my next analogy will be about pizzaThat just added to the confusion
okay no please stop, this isnt helpful. Im just asking hasty what he thinks the difference (if any) is between perpendicular time vs higher temporal axis and why they're not the same as we presumably established previouslyuuhhhhH
coordinate=separate dimension=higher scaling
infinite ammount of coordinates
Now infinite dimension!
Me high 1-B!
my bad gang, I thought you like didn't understand at allokay no please stop, this isnt helpful. Im just asking hasty what he thinks the difference (if any) is between perpendicular time vs higher temporal axis and why they're not the same as we presumably established previously
They are the same on the wiki.okay no please stop, this isnt helpful. Im just asking hasty what he thinks the difference (if any) is between perpendicular time vs higher temporal axis and why they're not the same as we presumably established previously
see? thats all I wanted to confirm. so really as I said before we just need to prove that they are either perpendicular or higher since they're the same on the wiki and it makes sense (since parallel ones are explicitly not higher temporal dimensions)They are the same on the wiki.
I think you're misunderstanding a bit. multiple spatial vectors (say a R^7 space) is inherently a tier 1 space. However according to the wiki if you have multiple temporal vectors then it doesnt achieve the same result unless you prove they're a higher axes (or perpendicular as hasty and i said are the same)pretty sure what hatsy is going to say is that
higher temporal axis is if something beings transcended and perpendicular time axis is that there's multiple temporal Vectors
The bolded parts are the same.I think you're misunderstanding a bit. multiple spatial vectors (say a R^7 space) is inherently a tier 1 space. However according to the wiki if you have multiple temporal vectors then it doesnt achieve the same result unless you prove they're a higher axes (or perpendicular as hasty and i said are the same)
you need to prove that even for spatial vector. Just saying "this universe has 6 spatial dimension" isn't enoughtI think you're misunderstanding a bit. multiple spatial vectors (say a R^7 space) is inherently a tier 1 space. However according to the wiki if you have multiple temporal vectors then it doesnt achieve the same result unless you prove they're a higher axes (or perpendicular as hasty and i said are the same)
how? thats the part where Im lost. How would multiple temporal dimensions be inherently perpendicular or "higher" than each preceding one?The bolded parts are the same.
spatial dimensions are ALWAYS perpendicular to one another there's no exception to this ruleyou need to prove that even for spatial vector. Just saying "this universe has 6 spatial dimension" isn't enought
same way 2D and 3D differ.how? thats the part where Im lost. How would multiple temporal dimensions be inherently perpendicular or "higher" than each preceding one?
nah hasty, that logic only works for spatial dimensions which we know are inherently perpendicular to one another (you can NEVER have a 3-space where 1 spatial dimension is parallel to length for example)same way 2D and 3D differ.
if this was the case then most tier 2 would have been tier 1. You need context. In your exaple you assumed that those spatial dimensions were already higher spatial axis.spatial dimensions are ALWAYS perpendicular to one another there's no exception to this rule
The logic is the same for all perpendicular vectors.nah hasty, that logic only works for spatial dimensions which we know are inherently perpendicular to one another (you can NEVER have a 3-space where 1 spatial dimension is parallel to length for example)
no thats just the wiki having standards on what it thinks qualifies as evidence for higher spatial dimensions. Thats not the same as claiming that spatial dimensions are parallel unless proven otherwise or most verses with a 3D universe would be down to 1D. A fourth spatial axis is inherently perpendicular to the 3 we already knowif this was the case then most tier 2 would have been tier 1. You need context. In your exaple you assumed that those spatial dimensions were already higher spatial axis.
Im pretty sure thats not how the wiki treats them even if I agree with youThe logic is the same for all perpendicular vectors.
no, only 3D and most of the time also 4D are assumed to be perpendicular by defoult. For a 5th or/and higher time or spatial axis you need to proove perpendiculatityThe logic is the same for all perpendicular vectors.
The wiki throws logic out the window in tier 2.Im pretty sure thats not how the wiki treats them even if I agree with you
you got that right but we cant really play by our own standards if we wanna get big changes passedThe wiki throws logic out the window in tier 2.
no, only 3D and most of the time also 4D are assumed to be perpendicular by defoult. For a 5th or/and higher time or spatial axis you need to proove perpendiculatity
The wiki throws logic out the window in tier 2.
tier 2 is so goofyThe wiki throws logic out the window in tier 2.
This whole thread has been DB fans crying and debunking low 1-C DBS.you got that right but we cant really play by our own standards if we wanna get big changes passed
is this even about saint seiya anymoreThis whole thread has been DB fans crying and debunking low 1-C DBS.
maybe but here's my final thoughts on that:This whole thread has been DB fans crying and debunking low 1-C DBS.