The only 1-C stuff I’ve seen is people going “underworld beyond spacetime hyper dimension beyond underworld, elysium beyond hyper dimension therefore 7D”.
We’ve uncomposited the Gold Saints so the classic Golds lose a lot of their better scaling.
yeah thats a flimsy argument, iirc hades doesnt mention anything about creating the hyperdimension anyway.
damn, guess Z broly does statstomp shaka now. I'm guessing gods stay composited because of one god for the entire cosmology?
Lol. Can shaka kill broly though? iirc if you kill a dbz toei character they just come back as a soul and can't be killed again
If a soul dies in DBZ they cease to exist and cannot come back again. If a soul dies in StS they come back whenever Kurumada wants to make a new toy.
really? why do the toei dbz characters have immortality while being dead? Did a CRT change it recently?
Ikki
I This is because they cannot die,they hold type 7 immortality, GT also mentions this
Not sure, Goku literally tells Vegeta that if he dies as a soul fighting Buu that Goku will never be able to revive him.
so is the 2-B shaka stuff part of the high 1-B/low 1-A upgrades or is it separate? what's the alternative is the high 1-B doesn't go through? cuz after checking some old threads I saw low 1-A got rejected
This is in canon where you only have type 1 immortality and you fight with your own soul but if you destroy the body created by Ema your soul is destroyed.
Seems to me that the scans of souls not being able to die are just contradicted by the adaption of canon material.
No, the scan i mentioned is from the Dragon Ball Z episodes, where Goku and Pikkon fight Cell and Frieza together, também é mencionado no GT e guias.
That's filler tho
Fillers are canon, it was created through Akira's ideas and draft.
yeah some of them are but he was asking if it was from a filler scene
Yes they are bro
What about the 8D stuff? or 1-A as you called it
Layered Reality fiction differences.
lemme guess its from TLC? Isnt that non canon though?
It's completely canon and written but Kurumada contrary to popular belief.
really?? I thought Teshirogi did all the work. Doesn't next dimension retcon it?
No, and that's where it becomes complicated and we get into hypertimelines lol
Damn. so this is where the 6D stuff also comes from I presume? are you using a similar hypertimeline argument used by dbs for this?
tbh the part where you said that the cosmology could be 6D but no one scales to it kinda reminds of dbs. The guys can travel back in time even after the timeline got erased so it could probably indicate the existence of another "hypertimeline" which houses the lower 5D timelines but since no one has interacted with it, no one scales to it
Yeah that's the bad part unfortunately....
eh i'm pretty lax on canon for most series tbh, I do think 6D is probably more solid and easier to accept than high 1-B. In case it goes through how do the tiers change and to what?
what about 5D? who all will scale to that?
It'll be 6D not 5D.
no i mean like, if the entire cosmology is 6D then the "lower" parts should be 5D shouldn't they? so shouldn't someone scale to that?
No, no one will scale to the lower part.
Damn. mind if I ask why? wouldn't individual universes be 5D?
No, it's a lot more complicated than that.
ah, fair. then I'm guessing most tiers would remain the same? gods stay 2-C/2-A?
Tartaros too?
What about Tartaros?
I'm asking if "he" is gonna be tier 1 too if Gaia is tier 1
