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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
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It seems that Eris obtained a universal feat in the last chapter of Saintia Sho, therefore, she no longer needs powerscaling with another god to obtain that level.
If Shoko gets her new armor and the power to fight with Eris in the next chapters, she will stop being the weakest protagonist of a series of Saint Seiya and will probably become one of the most powerful protagonists, at least she will be much more powerful than Tenma.
If Shoko gets her new armor and the power to fight with Eris in the next chapters, she will stop being the weakest protagonist of a series of Saint Seiya and will probably become one of the most powerful protagonists, at least she will be much more powerful than Tenma.
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Dam, more than tenma?
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is this implying "galaxies" as universes?
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The blog seems to say she created a world, who’s sky has several galaxies.
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didn't shoko say she was about to be swalled by a galaxy but then Dysnomia calls it a space-time?
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Well I didn’t read the scan, so idk. If it’s another space time than definitely universal I suppose
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This is unknown. Although it is only mentioned that Eris created a universe in the story.
Eris has better feats than Alone, who easily defeats Tenma in their fight, and is currently even more powerful than Athena/Saori (she even destroyed Nike, Athena's main sacred treasure, a feat that has not been replicated by any other god), and the goddess needs two new sacred treasures (Lunar Hagoromo and Golden Hanzashi) to fight Eris. If Shoko gets the power to fight Eris, she will be more powerful than Tenma, who will become the second weakest protagonist in the franchise (the weakest at the moment will be Shouchiro).
It is unknown if it will be a God Cloth, but the author published a special image where we can see Shoko with what will probably be her new armor.
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Chronos did seem to imply Nubelas = Universes in ND
id have to look very closely at context for Sho though
but these would be the only couple of instances
though one could argue that "Galaxies" we saw in the underworld were actually universes. but it doesn't have any other supporting evidence other than "similar art"
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Btw, idk if this helps your blog, but draupnir is intended to seal away Loki as well.
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Is that one dryad version of him from santia sho??
There is a lot of characters that need profiles imo
Gladitoras
Titans
Some Saint Seiya Omega characters
Soul of Gold Characters
Lost Canvas characters
Movie characters
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Omega has its mcs, and s1 and 2 main villains, and I doubt anyone’s gonna want to use Martian foot soldier, so I don’t recommend doing more omega for a little. Saintia sho mcs alr have a profile, but I think are missing keys. Omega too. Classic seems more or less complete of course. Lost canvas is almost complete as well it seems. SoG is completely empty. Movie as well, except for saga and seiya.
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The keys that I’m talking about are the repaired V1s for omega mcs considering the fact that the original version 1 cloths never were worn when the bronzes achieved the 7th sense. At best, the original version 1 should be Silver level.
Also steel/Equuleus subaru, which I’d put with saturn.
The Robed and hairpined versions of the saintias, as it basically gives them the ability to cross the Hyperdimension, among other things. Eris, if she doesn’t have a profile alr, and maybye ares saga
Also steel/Equuleus subaru, which I’d put with saturn.
The Robed and hairpined versions of the saintias, as it basically gives them the ability to cross the Hyperdimension, among other things. Eris, if she doesn’t have a profile alr, and maybye ares saga
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SoG golds would be easy wouldn’t they? Just take the og gold profile, slap the bronze divine cloth ratings on to them, and give them holy manip and stuff like that. And then give draupnir and whatever benefits god killing/sealing weapons give to aiolia as equipment. Unless anime continuity has different scaling then manga
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Yes, some pages need some corrections in the information, especially in the description of the characters' techniques.
For example:
Shaka's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Virgo_Shaka
Rikudō Rinne is still described as an illusionary technique, when the manga specifies that it is a move that kills and forces the opponent to reincarnate to one of the six worlds. Even the description of the technique on the official site confirms that it is not an illusion.
The elimination of the senses is still described as the main feature of Tenbu Horin, when Next Dimension confirms that the main feature of the technique is the battlefield it creates, a place where there is a universal law prohibiting all attack and defense by the opponent.
Tenma: What... what is that Tenbu Horin?
Shun: It's both an offensive and defensive battlefield. Once this technique has been unleashed, we won't be able to attack him or defend ourselves... We will perish here!
The elimination of the senses is only a move that Shaka uses within Tenbu Horin, but he can also attack with any other technique, for example Shijima and Shaka attack with Angyo and Ungyo after activating Tenbu Horin, and Shijima attacks with Tenma Kofuku in the fight with Odysseus.
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Aiolos's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sagittarius_Aiolos
We need to remove the Atomic Thunderbolt from the page because it is an anime exclusive move, and also remove the Bolt and Plasma because the main universe version of Aiolos never uses those techniques.
We must add the Shadow Arrow, Aiolos' official technique in the manga.
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Aphrodite's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Pisces_Aphrodite
We must add the Dagger Rose, Aphrodite's new official technique in the manga.
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Hades's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hades_(Saint_Seiya)
The description of Hades' techniques is simply horrible.
For example:
Shaka's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Virgo_Shaka
Rikudō Rinne is still described as an illusionary technique, when the manga specifies that it is a move that kills and forces the opponent to reincarnate to one of the six worlds. Even the description of the technique on the official site confirms that it is not an illusion.
The elimination of the senses is still described as the main feature of Tenbu Horin, when Next Dimension confirms that the main feature of the technique is the battlefield it creates, a place where there is a universal law prohibiting all attack and defense by the opponent.
Tenma: What... what is that Tenbu Horin?
Shun: It's both an offensive and defensive battlefield. Once this technique has been unleashed, we won't be able to attack him or defend ourselves... We will perish here!
Aiolos's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sagittarius_Aiolos
We need to remove the Atomic Thunderbolt from the page because it is an anime exclusive move, and also remove the Bolt and Plasma because the main universe version of Aiolos never uses those techniques.
We must add the Shadow Arrow, Aiolos' official technique in the manga.
Aphrodite's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Pisces_Aphrodite
We must add the Dagger Rose, Aphrodite's new official technique in the manga.
Hades's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hades_(Saint_Seiya)
The description of Hades' techniques is simply horrible.
- The Great Eclipse does not destroy the world or eliminate people in body and soul, it is only an Eclipse that Hades uses to darken the surface of the world and punish humans with a slow and painful death (because he is a racist).
- The Lost Canvas does not destroy people's souls, it was only a canvas to kill all humanity (which took Alone 2 months to complete) and it only traps the souls of humans in that place to prevent them from going to the Underworld and give them a peaceful death, because he believed that death was salvation and people in the Underworld continue to suffer after death.
- Also, I think it's better to remove Lost Canvas from the page, because Alone is a version of Hades from another universe and probably needs its own page.
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If Hyoga gets a episode g assassin, or Omega profile, would the fact that he froze fire, and a time hax attack count for something like physics manip? It’s outright stated in episode g assassin, that he’s going past physics. Plus, Omega Hyoga can possibly surpass absolute zero, and god cloth Hyoga definitely does as well.
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Additionally, Tokisada, who’s a big enough villain that he should eventually get his own profile imo, can Time stop himself, which prevents his atoms from moving, and since Saturn gave him this power, and Subaru(who is literally just nerfed Saturn) can bypass it, would Saturn get this kinda of Invulnerabilty/immunity to most matter hax?
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the creation of steel cloths alone is a pretty crazy feat.
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In chapter 5 of Dark Wing, Eito showed an interesting ability, the Capricorn Saint uses flames that probably erased Aiolos from existence, he is even erased from the world's memory. Soijiro (the Gemini Saint and Aiolos' student) does not remember Aiolos and the name of Aiolos was even deleted from Sojiro's cell phone.
These are probably the same flames used by the Saints and Athena to destroy the Underworld, we can even see how the souls are eliminated by these flames (named in the story as the purifying flames of Athena).
In addition, Sojiro as an apprentice Saint survived falling into a volcano crater, a rather impressive feat for an aspiring Saint, as Tenma almost died inside a volcano and Odysseus (as an aspiring Silver Saint) ended up severely injured by the magma of a volcano.
Yes. Tokisada is the character that best uses time manipulation in this franchise, he even has one of the best feats of Omega when he tries to destroy the dimension with his technique.
Because of the mini black holes in the steel cloths?
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Yeah. steel Saints basically have no formal cosmo training, despite that, the three og steel cloths could keep up with silver and bronzes in the classic, and even gold saint level enemies in omega. Sho was even able to siphon the cosmo in an attack backed by the power of hyperions sword, albeit barely. Also, the mass produced steel cloths which are vastly weaker, and are pretty foot soldier fodder can still harm someone buffed by Hyperions sword with omega. Even scare him. So yeah, steel cloths are pretty Much miracles.In chapter 5 of Dark Wing, Eito showed an interesting ability, the Capricorn Saint uses flames that probably erased Aiolos from existence, he is even erased from the world's memory. Soijiro (the Gemini Saint and Aiolos' student) does not remember Aiolos and the name of Aiolos was even deleted from Sojiro's cell phone.
These are probably the same flames used by the Saints and Athena to destroy the Underworld, we can even see how the souls are eliminated by these flames (named in the story as the purifying flames of Athena).
In addition, Sojiro as an apprentice Saint survived falling into a volcano crater, a rather impressive feat for an aspiring Saint, as Tenma almost died inside a volcano and Odysseus (as an aspiring Silver Saint) ended up severely injured by the magma of a volcano.
Yes. Tokisada is the character that best uses time manipulation in this franchise, he even has one of the best feats of Omega when he tries to destroy the dimension with his technique.
Because of the mini black holes in the steel cloths?
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is this a new chapter? I see a lot of potential hereIn chapter 5 of Dark Wing, Eito showed an interesting ability, the Capricorn Saint uses flames that probably erased Aiolos from existence, he is even erased from the world's memory. Soijiro (the Gemini Saint and Aiolos' student) does not remember Aiolos and the name of Aiolos was even deleted from Sojiro's cell phone.
These are probably the same flames used by the Saints and Athena to destroy the Underworld, we can even see how the souls are eliminated by these flames (named in the story as the purifying flames of Athena).
In addition, Sojiro as an apprentice Saint survived falling into a volcano crater, a rather impressive feat for an aspiring Saint, as Tenma almost died inside a volcano and Odysseus (as an aspiring Silver Saint) ended up severely injured by the magma of a volcano.
Yes. Tokisada is the character that best uses time manipulation in this franchise, he even has one of the best feats of Omega when he tries to destroy the dimension with his technique.
Because of the mini black holes in the steel cloths?
and yeah also the mini black holes
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Saintia Sho ends in the chapter 86 (next month's chapter).
Finish the manga with the best feats and drawing of this franchise.
The Chapter 98 of Next Dimension reveals that the universe is destroyed by Saori's time travel.
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The Chapter 98 of Next Dimension reveals that the universe is destroyed by Saori's time travel.
Next Dimension Part98 (RAW)
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Here’s a Very rough google translation I did from a Spanish summary I found on the ss Reddit dis.
Part 98 Possession Odysseus arrives at the Temple of Balance and comes across Suikyô's corpse. "Here begins a memory Suikyô informs Odysseus that the Cup Cloth was given to him. He asks if the water in the Cup can show the future, he answers that for an instant he could see a baby reflected. Hearing this , Odysseus informs Suikyô that if something strange happens to him, kill him without hesitation. After that he heads to the Well of Tartarus. Asclepius welcomes him warmly, and Odysseus asks him why there are indications of his resurrection despite that has been sealed up to the present. The Athena of the future (Saori) will cross space-time and come to save a Saint of Bronze (Seiya). Due to this, the order of the universe will begin to decompose, space-time will begin to distort everywhere and produce a major fissure in the universe. These events do not interest him, so he will take advantage of the disturbance to replace the reborn Athena, then he tells her that when his spirit has merged more than half with that of Odysseus, the one from thirteenth golden saint will rise again. Asclepius merges with Odysseus. Suikyô discovers Odysseus lying next to the well, then takes him to his house. Because the Athena of the future will come to fulfill such a personal goal, the Athena of this time does not appear, if this continues, they will definitely lose against the army of Hades and the universe will also be destroyed. For these reasons, it is necessary to eliminate the Athena of the future, this is how Odysseus tells the Pope and Suikyô. The Pope asks who will kill Athena, Suikyô says that he will do it and that he is prepared to carry that stigma. ~ The memory ends Odysseus cries tears of blood and vows to kill Athena To be continued
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After reading the Chapter.
Asclepius knows the future and knew that Athena was going to travel back in time to save Seiya.
Asclepius' soul can possess Odysseus' body, although this takes several years. When half of Asclepius' soul took possession of Odysseus, he would awaken as the Golden Ophiuchus, therefore, Asclepius' soul probably does not yet take full control of Odysseus' body.
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Athena: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Athena_(Saint_Seiya)
One question why Athena has Acausality (type 2), when in the scans they put in the description they don't indicate anything that shows this type of Acausality, even the Gold Saints disappeared and returned to their time and world when the Black Core (the power and portal that connects the worlds) disappeared. And the gods are affected by the changes in time.
Athena's purpose is to travel back in time to save Seiya and steal Hades' sword in the past to change the story and prevent the god from hurting Seiya. The main canon of the franchise indicates that the gods are affected by changes in time.
In The Lost Canvas, Avenir's time travel changed the story of his world, even preventing Athena's death in the future and Hades' victory. The change of time affects the fate and story of these gods.
Kairos' plan is to change the story and prevent the future of Seiya and company, because he wanted Tenma to become the god killer and take revenge on the gods at that time.
The Acausality doesn't make any sense in this franchise, because the gods are affected by changes in time.
Asclepius knows the future and knew that Athena was going to travel back in time to save Seiya.
Asclepius' soul can possess Odysseus' body, although this takes several years. When half of Asclepius' soul took possession of Odysseus, he would awaken as the Golden Ophiuchus, therefore, Asclepius' soul probably does not yet take full control of Odysseus' body.
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Athena: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Athena_(Saint_Seiya)
One question why Athena has Acausality (type 2), when in the scans they put in the description they don't indicate anything that shows this type of Acausality, even the Gold Saints disappeared and returned to their time and world when the Black Core (the power and portal that connects the worlds) disappeared. And the gods are affected by the changes in time.
Athena's purpose is to travel back in time to save Seiya and steal Hades' sword in the past to change the story and prevent the god from hurting Seiya. The main canon of the franchise indicates that the gods are affected by changes in time.
In The Lost Canvas, Avenir's time travel changed the story of his world, even preventing Athena's death in the future and Hades' victory. The change of time affects the fate and story of these gods.
Kairos' plan is to change the story and prevent the future of Seiya and company, because he wanted Tenma to become the god killer and take revenge on the gods at that time.
The Acausality doesn't make any sense in this franchise, because the gods are affected by changes in time.
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