saint seiya battle

[Victor2]

the great god phontos VS the god of death hades

who takes the win

(note hades is with his own powers, cronus dunamis is excluded)

 

[Tivanenk]

Pontos wins because he's a Primordial and they surpass Titans (bar Kronos). Hades only matched Titans (bar Kronos).

 

[Victor2]

hades surrpasses other olympus aswell (bar zeus)

 

[Tivanenk]

Other Olympians (bar Zeus) cannot take on Pontus though.

 

[Victor2]

how so?

 

[Tivanenk]

Because Primordials > Olympians and Titans in SS verse. The only exception are Zeus and Kronos.

 

[Victor2]

i don`t get, if there can be exceptions why can`t hades be unable to beat phontos

 

[Tivanenk]

Because Hades hasn't shown to be on Pontus', Kronos', or Zeus' level.

 

[Victor2]

can you list phontos feats if that`s not too much to ask

 

[Tivanenk]

The fact that he casually was above the regular Titans in the series in enough evidence since Hades fought them fairly evenly in Titanomachia.

 

[Victor2]

you don`t know that for sure

for all we know phontos could be in that titanomachia war, and hades took on more than 1 titan.

 

[Tivanenk]

Why would Pontos be in Titanomachia if he ain't a Titan? Besides, 12 Titans vs 12 Olympians means he took on one most likely.

 

[Victor2]

again, nothings for certain. phontos was sealed along with other titians, if he wasn`t in titanomachia why would zeus and olympus seal him?. some of olmypus are not on titan level so hades likely took on multiple of them as being one of 3 sacred emperior

 

[Tivanenk]

Uh... Pontus was never sealed in the first place. What are you talking about it?

 

[Tivanenk]

I mean, think about this: he trashed Leo Aiolia with a water copy of himself that he made from another dimension and Hyperion, a Titan, had to sacrifice his remaining lifeforce to take it down. That's how strong Pontus is.

 

[Victor2]

he wasn`t???

i remember reading him not being at full power thus i assume he too was sealed

 

[Tivanenk]

Where? Because I don't remember that. He was collecting the Titans' Dunamis so that he could revive (or rather unseal) Gaia.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Mh...


What about this?

 

[Tivanenk]

Cronus' Dunamis is excluded.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Hades is like "What do you desire, Cronus?" to a full-power Cronus.

Makes it seems like he is more powerful.

 

[Tivanenk]

Because Cronus was asking him for a favor?

 

[Victor2]

so hades could do something where full power cronus couldn`t?

 

[Tivanenk]

Cronus was getting pulled into Tartarus at this point IIRC, so he couldn't exactly get Aiolia out of there.

 

[Tivanenk]

That's like saying, "Well, Hecate knew the path to Chronos' lake and Athena didn't, so Hecate > Athena"

 

[Victor2]

hmm makes sense i gusse