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Sage Monarch Possible 1-A

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Note: I won't delve into the full scope and details of the lower worlds or the God World, as I find it unnecessary. In brief, the lower worlds are capped at 2-A, while the God World encompasses a 2-A scope but in a 6D form in the old system.






In Sage Monarch, the lower realms consist of three universes arranged vertically, each with its unique characteristics. These universes, although stacked atop one another, do not overlap. Positioned in the middle is the Mortal World, while the universe below is designated as hell, and the one above is known as the Immortal Worlds universe.

Yang Qi uses his special eye to perceive the intricate structure of his own universe and the one beneath it, referred to as hell. Despite the lack of direct intersection between these universes, they are intricately linked through space-time wormholes generated by godworms:

After he was in outer space, he saw an endless silver river of stars and planets. In the void, it was impossible to see the stars and planets. The only thing visible was darkness and tempests. But in outer space, there was dazzling starlight everywhere, filling anyone who could see it with a feeling of warmth.

The first thing Yang Qi did was take in the sights. Looking out into outer space, he saw the silver river, and began thinking about the universe, the planes of existence, the void, and other such things.

He even opened the Lord's Eye, and could see even more clearly the distinction between the eternal darkness and light that existed. There was a bright universe that was outer space. Within it hung countless planets, planetary systems, continents. And there was a dark universe that was the void, filled with darkness, and without any light.

The two universes did not intersect. However, they were connected by wormholes, which were very much like passageways left behind by burrowing archaean godworms. - Chapter 338

Looking up he observes the immortal worlds universe, however he cannot sense the God World:

With his Lord's Eye, Yang Qi could see down to the substructure of the universe around him. In fact, it was now possible to determine that the immortal planes above actually existed in another universe of their own, separated by a massive greyspace.

Within this universe, the Rich-Lush Continent was like a speck of dust, which could be blown away by the slightest fluctuation. As for Yang Qi himself, he was very weak.

Of course, the mighty legion of gods was far beyond his sight. It was hard to say why; although he could sense the countless immortal planes, he had absolutely no sensation regarding whatever world the legion of gods lived in. - Chapter 338

This is because reaching the God World requires divine ascension and through the Ancient Road and whether the lower worlds transform, lives or dies, it has nothing to do with the God World.

To Yang Qi, it felt almost like he was connected to some mighty world that abounded with power. He suddenly saw the Ancient Road to the Gods, stretching on and on until it reached that mighty world, which existed outside of the river of time itself. Whether one stepped onto the Ancient Road to the Gods in the past, the present, or the future, it was the same.

The chiliocosm of worlds in the universe could transform. The dao of heaven could live or die. But that had nothing to do with the god world. The god world was eternally unchangeable. Slowly, but surely, Yang Qi was gaining profound levels of enlightenment and coming to understand some of the secrets of that world. - Chapter 817

Godly Ascension, in Sage Monarch, involves a metaphysical journey through the nine steps of the Deathless progression. Successfully navigating these steps leads to transcending the confines of the cosmology, while failure results in one remaining within the mortal world.

Next came the nine stairs, those of Valor, Wisdom, Endurance, and Fearlessness and the like. Each was harder to climb than the previous, and those who reached the end would become like the legion of gods. Those who failed would remain in the world of mortals, unable to transcend the river of time and pierce through the past and the future. - Chapter 827

Note: As for the Road to the God, it is a passageway from the God World to the lower worlds like a helping hand from the higher reality. Although it states that it can be accessed from any era, it ceased to exist in the past and future and could only be accessed in the present, but that changed shortly after Yang Qi' ascension (Chapter 1521). He then temporarily fixed it and pulled his friend and family into the higher reality (Chapter 1556) and then the road completely collapsed for good, dooming everyone else in the lower worlds to eventual cosmic death (Chapter 1556).


Regarding ascension POV, isn't as simple as point A to B. Provided you've met the criteria, you're sort of baptised by the God World's laws (Chapter 1141), which technically means normal transcendence is a sham, as even one of the peak existences of the lowers worlds would have died, had it not been for Yang Qi's protection (Chapter 1141). Upon getting past that hurdle, the God World transports you into a location inside it (Chapter 1141). As for how Yang Qi is able to protect them, he is using the God Legion Seal (Chapter 1141). It is currently a 6D item/entity fused with Yang Qi spiritually. See the explanation section at the bottom of his profile.


The God World



The lower worlds exist in an illusory state; only the God World is considered genuinely real. True reality is attained only upon transcending the confines of the lower worlds.

The god world was the only real world. As for the lower worlds, they were illusory and virtual in nature, and it was only upon leaving them that a person could become truly real. The things that happened in the lower worlds were like dreams, which meant coming to the god world was like waking up. - Chapter 1392

Now, a peculiar twist unfolds...

Within the lower worlds, the three realms pertain to the Mortal World, Immortal World, and God World. However, in the God World, the classification shifts to the true realm (God World), the illusory realm (lower worlds), and a realm that is neither true nor illusory known as nevasaññānāsaññāyatana.

“Marquis Three Realms?” Yang Qi knew that in the god world, the ‘three realms’ were different than what people generally viewed the three realms to be. Normally, those three realms were the impure lands, immortal worlds, and god world. But in the god realm, things were different. The three realms referred to: the true realm; the illusory realm; and the realm that was neither true nor illusory. They were three realms that essentially represented reality, imagination, and Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana, that which was neither perception nor non-perception. - Chapter 1435

It functions as a state of existence although a nonexistent one. Yang Qi found himself thrust into it prematurely through forceful teleportation, and surprisingly, within its confines, reality appears as ethereal as a dream..

However, his joy quickly faded as he realized that he didn’t know how to return from this state. If he couldn't return, it made reality like little more than a dream. This wasn’t the half-Annulled level. After all, in that level, it was supposedly possible to freely enter and exit the state of Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana. - Chapter 1516

Therefore, when considering the concept of r>f, it essentially doesn't fit squarely into either 'r' or 'f'; within its realm, both transform into 'f'.

Nevertheless, Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana remains just another part of the God World, which stands as superior to all other worlds. I propose that Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana should potentially receive r>f in relation to reality, and the God World should be granted a +1 superiority over reality. Despite the distinctive nature of Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana, it still represents a subordinate aspect within the overarching scope of the God World. Anyways, refer to the next section for a concrete +1 r>f rather than a potential one

There were many aspects of space-time in the god world, and in this case, the world of Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana was without desire or physicality. It consisted only of minute psychic fluctuations. Although Yang Qi understood what it was, understanding it didn’t mean he could enter it. - Chapter 1274

+1 OR +2 R>F Annulled


Assuming the God World qualifies as 1-A, I propose that the Annulled should be classified as +1 r>f or +2 if Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana gets 1-A and the God World receives +1.

Regarding the nature of the Annulled, it is perceived as a transcendental state of existence rather than a mere power multiplier. In essence, it doesn't enhance power; instead, it represents a journey back to one's original state of lacking all attributes.

Its godpower had already been annulled, which meant it didn’t need godhood or godpower.

In the Annulled level, everything became nothing.

When Yang Qi reached that level, his monarch godhood would be cultivated into nothing. It was like truly returning home to one’s original state. Yang Qi thirsted to reach that level. - Chapter 1294

Naturally, within their plane of existence, it could also imply a finite increase in power; however, that is not the case. The infinite realm is divided into early, middle, late, and peak stages, all further progressing past infinity until reaching a state of being Half-Annulled. With the infinite realm already attaining infinite power and the Half-Annulled having no level in a literal sense.
  • 半步 half a step
  • 无无级别的 without level
  • 境界 realm

However, a violent mental wave that could destroy the world came out of it, and all the shackles collapsed at this moment.
Yang Qi, the king of godhead, seems to be unable to feel the shackles of the world in an instant, gaining great freedom, and endlessly improving his spiritual power. At this time, in the depths of the sky, countless brilliance descended, deep in the disc of civilization, Many optical brains are making loud voices: "Congratulations, you have broken the shackles of the mind, and your will and spirit are infinite. At this time, it is no longer possible to use numbers to determine your spiritual scale."
The will of the infinite level means that it can increase infinitely. Of course, this is also compared to the masters who have not been promoted to the infinite level. The will of the infinite level is also divided into early, middle, late, and peak.
After infinity, there is a half-step, no-level realm, masters, kings of immortals, true demons, kings of idols, demon masters, and evil gods are all in this realm, and of course, there are high priests in it. - Chapter 1324

但是,一股最強足足可以毀天滅地的精神波動從其中猛烈的傳遞出來,隻一下,所有的枷鎖在這一刻,全部崩潰。
楊奇的神格之王,在刹那之間,似乎感覺不到了世界的束縛,獲得大自在,精神力無休止的提升,這個時候天空深處,無數的光華降落下來,在文明之碟深處, 許多光腦都在發出來洪亮的聲音:“恭喜恭喜,打破心靈之枷鎖,意誌精神無限,這個時候,已經無法用數字來確定你的精神刻度了。”
無限級的意誌,意思就是可以無限增加,當然這也是相對於沒有晉升為無限級的高手來說,無限級的意誌,也初期,中期,後期,巔峰之分。
無限之後,就是半步無無級別的境界,主宰,誅仙王,真魔,神象之王,妖師,邪神都是這個境界,當然,還有大祭司在其中。- Chapter 1324

Moving on.

Godhood is basically your concept, you are it and it is you.

“Converge the godpower. Let the virtual godhood become true and real!”

Crack!

The virtual godhood within Yang Qi suddenly transformed; having absorbed such immense amounts of godpower, it was now as transparent as crystal and contained ten types of energy, which created a perfect peak of power.

“Sage, Monarch, Ruler, Emperor, Sovereign, Lord, Hero, Hegemon, God, Nothing!”

Ten characters appeared within Yang Qi’s virtual godhood, all of them written in the script of the Godfolk. They were incomparably true and real, contained all sorts of transformations and interactions, and thrummed with an invincible, destabilizing power. As a result, Yang Qi’s tendons, bones, blood, and flesh became numerous magical laws, as if he himself were transforming into godhood.

He was godhood, godhood was him.

It was a very enigmatic transformation. - Chapter 1153

As an example, Yang Qi's conceptual framework revolves around the Ten Daos of man, embodying principles that signify unity, duality, trinity and so on until the completeness of ten; the full cycle of creation.

Essentially, at the Annulled level he would be deficient in dualistic and oneness attributes.
Concepts were swirling within his heart.

Sage, Monarch, Ruler, Emperor, Sovereign, Lord, Hero, Hegemon, God, Nothing.

Ten daos.

They represented that which was perfect and preeminent: the unity of one, the duality of two, trinity of three, four divisions, five phases, six directions, seven stars, eight trigrams, nine palaces, and the completeness of ten.

The ten great daos of the many heavens.

In that moment, Yang Qi became like a sage, and at the same time, a monarch, a ruler, and a king. He was an emperor, a sovereign, a lord, a hero, a hegemon, and ambitious and ruthless. With one thought, he could shake all heaven and earth, and dominate everything that existed. He could achieve a dao of gods and become the ultimate ruler. - Chapter 1128



一道道的法则,流淌在心中。

“圣!”“王”“君”“皇”“帝”“主”“雄”“霸”“神”“无”。

这是十道。

代表着十全十美,就如一元,两仪,三才,四象,五行,六合,七星,八卦,九宫,十全一样。

诸天十道,为至极。

杨奇瞬息之间,觉得自己可以成为圣人,也可以成为王者,更能够成为君王,君子。又可以成为皇,成为帝,成为主,成为雄,英雄,枭雄,都在一念之间,更能够称霸天地,霸主凌尘。又可以成为神道,最后成为无道。- Chapter 1128

Regarding Yang Qi, he is a fateless one (命运虚无者). Nonexistent fate. However he also embodies the fate of all living beings.

At some point a stream of Fateless energy came into being and the strongest God of that time captured it, something that surpassed the fate of their plane of existence. and also a key to the Annulled. After some events it was split into two, each half reincarnating into physical form. One half being Yang Qi

“Simple. A stream of fateless energy came to be in the god world many years ago, something that surpassed fate itself. And the Sovereign Lord took notice. He knew that the birth of the fateless energy could bring down his rulership. Therefore, he used a most boundless divine ability to lock up that fateless energy, in the hopes that he could absorb it and grow stronger as a result. Perhaps it could’ve even helped him break through to the true Annulled level. After all, fateless energy is key to that breakthrough. Unfortunately, he couldn't assimilate it. So he sealed it with the strongest seal imaginable, then gave it to the High Priestess to watch over. You see, when it came to the Sovereign Lord’s subordinates, the King of Godmammoths was known for strength and power, but the best schemer of them all was the High Priestess.”

Everyone present was hanging on Yang Voidprime’s every word, as this was information most of them had never heard before.

“Sadly, the Sovereign Lord did everything wrong, and eventually the legion of gods turned on him. In the preparations for the final attack, the High Priestess unsealed the fateless energy and tried to assimilate it herself. She failed, fracturing the fateless energy in the process. One part of it was reincarnated as me, while the other part fell into the impure lands, where it disappeared. Obviously, that second bit of fateless energy became Yang Qi.” - Chapter 1525

The state of returning to one's original state was from Yang Qi's perspective (first Annulled quote).

After absorbing the Fateless nature of this other half (Yang Voidprime), the Annulled beckons toward him and he realises it is only the Annulled that are truly free from the fetters of fate. His half Fateless allowed him to exist outside of the river of time while full Fateless allowed him to act figuratively like a mirror, reflecting the fates of all living beings while he himself still lacks it, and yet, the Annulled are beyond the dual states of fate and non-fate.

As the fateless energy suffused him, his status as a Fateless One grew whole. And as he was blessed, the Annulled level reached out, beckoning toward him. Never had he experienced anything like this, in which he had such deep enlightenment of the terror of fate, and the majesty of the Annulled level.

Only by being Annulled could one truly be free from the fetters of fate, and become invincible. - Chapter 1592

The aforementioned quotes are not the sole references to the theme of Annulling everything even your energy/power.

Then, his power fluctuations vanished. His godhood vanished. His body vanished. Everything about him was becoming annulled.

This was the half-Annulled level. - Chapter 1560

It is crucial to recognize that what has been described pertains mostly to the Half-Annulled level; the complete transformation into the Annulled state will come later. Even prior to reaching the state of the Annulled, a step towards it involves the act of separating oneself into manifestations of good and evil, and subsequently allowing both facets to dissolve into nothingness:

Suddenly, he heard a voice speaking in his ears. “Heart-devils are born to feed on the psyche. The stronger the person, the stronger the heart-devils inside them. You truly have no idea how powerful the evil inside you could be. Stimulate it, then defeat it, and you can gain the eternal. Afterward, both the evil you and the righteous you will vanish and become nothing. And that is the strongest state you can enter, in which you can grasp at Annulled will convergence....” - Chapter 1205

What remains in the Half-Annulled level is their will, existing in a psychic state that hovers between the realms of reality and illusion.

Yang Qi sank into silent contemplation, reining in his power. His body was hardly discernible, as though it had vanished. That was what happened in the half-Annulled level. The body didn't exist. Only the deathless and eternal psyche and will remained. Of course, immense power fluctuations resonated from the heart and mind, spanning the gap between that which was real and that which was illusory.

And even that becomes Annulled at the Annulled level.

Only someone who could annul their own thoughts by reaching the Annulled level of will convergence could free their thoughts from the auditing of the seal. - Chapter 1249

As for the Annulled, what they also lack is not only form but also nothingness itself.

According to King Life-Killer, there was no true joy to be had in life, nor was there true suffering to be found in death. Lifeless and destructionless. A void lacking even the void, completely annulled and without form. - Chapter 937

I suppose those are enough quotes for their +1 or +2 rating but I will post one more. The Annulled also lack any form of hierarchy to them as evident by the literal translation of their name (无无级) which in a sentence would become the below. Additionally "色" (se) is a reference to Rūpa (色) - Form/Matter (includes the physical body and the external world perceived through the senses) and in combination with "都是色" becomes something like: "The entire mortal realm, immortal realm, primal chaos, God realm—everything that has a tangible form—is considered "色" (form) in nature. The state of being without grades/ranks or levels/hierarchies is emptiness or void, which is "空" (emptiness) and "无无级" (Annulled). - Chapter 1273

But here is the short version without explanation:

The entire Mortal world, immortal realm, chaos, God realm—everything tangible is form. And the Annulled is emptiness."

整个世俗,仙界,混沌,神界,一切有形的物质,都是色。而无无级就是空。 - Chapter 1273

Being Annulled also applies to emotions.

As for the main mask, it was completely expressionless, almost ordinary in nature, as though it didn't contain anything that could affect emotions.

In other words, the emotions were annulled.

Whatever almighty being had created this mask and led the others, that entity had gained enlightenment of how to annul one’s emotions. - Chapter 1121

Anyways, let us finish off with the following 3 quotes.

As there is no world beyond the God World, further ascension is impossible. While other worlds on the same plane may be comparable or even superior, truly qualitively surpassing the God World is unattainable.

The aspiration of the Half-Annulled is to authentically transcend and evolve into the true and real world, becoming Annulled.

“Right now, I'm trapped in the Great Necropolis. However, I've also managed to unlock some of its deepest secrets and I plan to use them to vanquish these villains. If I don’t, the god world will be no more. And time is running out. Allow me to emphasize this point: the Sovereign Lord couldn’t destroy the god world, but the Great Necropolis can. The god world represents everything. So if it's gone, there is Nothing. The god world is the heart of the many heavens, and in fact, is the most paramount of all worlds. There’s no other world that surpasses it. Therefore, the only way to reach the Annulled level of will convergence is to destroy the god world. To create the true and real world, which is a world of Nothing. If someone can reach the Annulled level and transcend by destroying the god world, humanity can break through the ultimate limits.”

‘So, that’s how it is,’ Yang Qi thought.

The god world was the ultimate world. The path of cultivation involved rising from the impure lands into the immortal worlds, then going to the god world. To achieve breakthroughs, one had to fly to higher heights. Unfortunately, if there were no worlds above the god world, how could one fly higher? - Chapter 1402

In essence, there is nothing truly beyond the God World, making transcendence to a more authentic realm impossible.

However, Yang Qi disrupts this paradigm. By reducing everything to nothingness, he harnesses the power of the Necropolis to transcend this void. There is technically nothing to transcend - no pun intended, but he still achieves this and transitions into becoming Annulled; vanishing from nothingness (the void) into the Annulled.

Rather than settling for nothingness 'space' left behind lacking space and time and even primal chaos (primal chaos lacks time, fate and karma (causality) (Chapter 800), he becomes Annulled.

“Now, we transcend,” he said. “In this new world, I’ll bring back all the living beings that died. It will be a new place. Everyone, pray for me. Pray for yourselves. Pray for the empire. Pray for the void. Pray for fate....”

Everyone sat down cross-legged and began to pray.

Using the Great Necropolis, Yang Qi absorbed what remained of the primal-chaos paleo-energy. As he took it into himself, the world became deathly silent. There was no light, no time, no space, no primal-chaos, no living beings, no world.

Everything became nothing.

However, the Great Necropolis was fully open.

“Come, everyone. Come into the Great Necropolis.” As Yang Qi led his father and mother, and all of his brethren, into the necropolis, he said, “The Great Necropolis buries the world, but it still represents life. It's not an end, but a beginning!”

Everyone went inside, leaving not a single living thing in the outside world.

Then, boundless light erupted from the Great Necropolis, and cracking sounds rang out from Yang Qi. “Transcend!”

The Great Necropolis vanished, and everyone vanished with it. Yang Qi vanished. His empire, his glory, his ideals, his faith, his valor, they all vanished.

It was impossible to say where they went. It was almost as if they had never existed. - Chapter 1601

Subsequently, he brings about this new beginning as a colossal event reminiscent of a big bang unfolds after his 'departure'. The entire cosmology that existed previously is reborn. Unlike the earlier iteration, a world now exists beyond the God World – Yang Qi's world, forever beyond the reach of the newly ascended Gods who now occupy the level he once stood before his transcendence. Remaining an eternal legend rather than being interacted with.

However, when the Great Necropolis vanished, a pure expression of vital energy suddenly rippled out into the void. Then a multitude of worlds came into being, filling space.

Life had appeared again.

Slowly but surely, the impure lands came to be again. Then immortal worlds came into existence. Even the god world came to be.

After untold billions of years passed, after untold generations, the legion of gods yet again came to exist. However, there was a legend among this new legion of gods that said that a higher form of civilization existed. And countless experts in the legion of gods wanted to go there. It was just how countless cultivators from the impure lands wanted to ascend to the immortal worlds.

It was an eternal legend. A door had been opened. No one knew what type of civilization existed above the god civilization.

But it was there.

As the years passed, myths and histories came and went.

But that legend remained in the hearts of people for all eternity. - Chapter 1601

As for this 'world' Yang Qi took, at its creation he called it the Everlasting Aegis (Chapter 1506) and the Everlasting Aegis is him (Chapter 1563).




Tldr;

Nevasaññānāsaññāyatana = Possibly 1-A
Half-Annulled & God World = 1-A, possibly +1
Annulled = +1, possibly +2
 
Yeah, seems fine, honestly.
Can Annulled become Tier 0?
The Annulled also lack any form of hierarchy to them as evident by the literal translation of their name (无无级) which in a sentence would become the below. Additionally "色" (se) is a reference to Rūpa (色) - Form/Matter (includes the physical body and the external world perceived through the senses) and in combination with "都是色" becomes something like: "The entire mortal realm, immortal realm, primal chaos, God realm—everything that has a tangible form—is considered "色" (form) in nature. The state of being without grades/ranks or levels/hierarchies is emptiness or void, which is "空" (emptiness) and "无无级" (Annulled). - Chapter 1273
But here is the short version without explanation:
The entire Mortal world, immortal realm, chaos, God realm—everything tangible is form. And the Annulled is emptiness."

整个世俗,仙界,混沌,神界,一切有形的物质,都是色。而无无级就是空。 - Chapter 1273
Regarding the nature of the Annulled, it is perceived as a transcendental state of existence rather than a mere power multiplier. In essence, it doesn't enhance power; instead, it represents a journey back to one's original state of lacking all attributes.
Its godpower had already been annulled, which meant it didn’t need godhood or godpower.

In the Annulled level, everything became nothing.

When Yang Qi reached that level, his monarch godhood would be cultivated into nothing. It was like truly returning home to one’s original state. Yang Qi thirsted to reach that level. - Chapter 1294
 
I looked at ending chapters and it could possibly be tier 0 but dunno not too sure on the specifics of everything.




"Is it all over, Yang Qi?" Greensura asked. She was flanked by Yang Zhan, Yang Susu, and all his other friends and family.
He exhaled, and King Immortal-Slayer flew out as well.
“It's over, everyone,” he said, his voice both soft and resolute. “I have no enemies left. My empire is invincible, and we've created something one-of-a-kind: an ideal nation. There is no such thing as hell. The impure lands are no more. The immortal worlds are gone. The past doesn't exist, nor does the future."
Everyone knew that they had just barely survived a major disaster, and it was a very unique feeling.
"Now, we transcend," he said. “In this new world, I'll bring back all the living beings that died. It will be a new place. Everyone, pray for me. Pray for yourselves. Pray for the empire. Pray for the void. Pray for fate...."
Everyone sat down cross-legged and began to pray.
Using the Great Necropolis, Yang Qi absorbed what remained of the primal-chaos paleo-energy. As he took it into himself, the world became deathly silent. There was no light, no time, no space, no primal-chaos, no living beings, no world.
Everything became nothing.
However, the Great Necropolis was fully open.
“Come, everyone. Come into the Great Necropolis." As Yang Qi led his father and mother, and all of his brethren, into the necropolis, he said, "The Great Necropolis buries the world, but it still represents life. It's not an end, but a beginning!"
Everyone went inside, leaving not a single living thing in the outside world.
Then, boundless light erupted from the Great Necropolis, and cracking sounds rang out from Yang Qi. "Transcend!"
The Great Necropolis vanished, and everyone vanished with it. Yang Qi vanished. His empire, his glory, his ideals, his faith, his valor, they all vanished.
It was impossible to say where they went. It was almost as if they had never existed.
However, when the Great Necropolis vanished, a pure expression of vital energy suddenly rippled out into the void. Then a multitude of worlds came into being, filling space.
Life had appeared again.
Slowly but surely, the impure lands came to be again. Then immortal worlds came into existence. Even the god world came to be.
After untold billions of years passed, after untold generations, the legion of gods yet again came to exist. However, there was a legend among this new legion of gods that said that a higher form of civilization existed. And countless experts in the Legion of gods wanted to go there. It was just how countless cultivators from the impure lands wanted to ascend to the immortal worlds.
It was an eternal legend. A door had been opened. No one knew what type of civilization existed above the god civilization.
But it was there.
As the years passed, myths and histories came and went.
But that legend remained in the hearts of people for all eternity.
The End
 
Well consider it was a state or level of cultivation that can be reached, it disquafied as tier 0 from the beginning

I think ultima say something similiar in other china outerverse thread
Doesn’t seem to quite matter here since annulled or emptiness here is being portrayed as the true state of everything which is an utter lack of attributes that people “reach” by dissolving into nothingness. It’s not like Ultima is saying cultivation just can’t be tier 0 just that it typically isn’t the case.
 
Doesn’t seem to quite matter here since annulled or emptiness here is being portrayed as the true state of everything which is an utter lack of attributes that people “reach” by dissolving into nothingness. It’s not like Ultima is saying cultivation just can’t be tier 0 just that it typically isn’t the case.
The fact we given any tier 0 a tier 0 because they are same from the very beginning, a character that can be in that state are anti feats for himself to be tier 0. Soo i dont think thats help
 
The fact we given any tier 0 a tier 0 because they are same from the very beginning, a character that can be in that state are anti feats for himself to be tier 0. Soo i dont think thats help
Seriously. What's wrong or conflicting about this verse and you? From the Dragon Talisman thread to this, you've been downplaying unreasonably without anyone agreeing? Again, I'm asking Ultima, not you. Go complain to the WTC thread or any other if that's your problem with tier 0 and not this verse.
 
The fact we given any tier 0 a tier 0 because they are same from the very beginning, a character that can be in that state are anti feats for himself to be tier 0. Soo i dont think thats help
you can become tier 0 by returning to a state that is tier 0 since everythings true nature is that tier 0 thing blah blah (also deleted my post about the dragon talisman stuff since apparently the raws for annulled stuff is completely different and are referring to completely different things as i was told on discord)
 
Seriously. What's wrong or conflicting about this verse and you? From the Dragon Talisman thread to this, you've been downplaying unreasonably without anyone agreeing? Again, I'm asking Ultima, not you. Go complain to the WTC thread or any other if that's your problem with tier 0 and not this verse.
Bruh i dont even know if this two verse are the same verse, and anyone can comment and reply whatever he want, i just write what i think, and there are no problem with that
you can become tier 0 by returning to a state that is tier 0 since everythings true nature is that tier 0 thing blah blah (also deleted my post about the dragon talisman stuff since apparently the raws for annulled stuff is completely different and are referring to completely different things as i was told on discord)
Same as before honestly
 
The thread's current proposals are fine to me. Tier 0 is something for its own thread.
 
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