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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
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I think my brother needs some time off, he is going on a tirade of such trollish threads.
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Unqver
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Brother when will I rule the world and take over the US government
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I banned Unqver for 6 months in our forum and wiki due to repeated trolling. I also hopefully deleted all of their troll threads.
if other staff members want us to adjust the ban length, please mention it here.
if other staff members want us to adjust the ban length, please mention it here.
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The thread is going chaotic really fast here with ad hominems and insults.
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Yet another Hoyoverse cosmology downgrade
this is some sahl level shit with his chat gpt scaling 💀 Chat gpt scaling? Damn 🥀
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It seems they found their way to the topic on their own, but I told them to calm down regardless.The thread is going chaotic really fast here with ad hominems and insults.
Yet another Hoyoverse cosmology downgrade
this is some sahl level shit with his chat gpt scaling 💀 Chat gpt scaling? Damn 🥀
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Reporting @Azertyhuuh for constant inappropriate behaviour and rule-breaking
First of all: Previous reports
Here, he was reported and warned regarding both spamming CRTs and creating poorly made ones.
Now here begins the new report.
Constant spamming of CRTs (mostly badly made ones. (I will go in order, and ignore anything before the @LuffyRuffy46307 original report regarding spam.)
Venzudoana high 1B, and Anos low 1A
The creators tier 0
Yogiri tier 0
Canonicity of Instant Death and the Demon King vs the Hero
Final group low 1A, Yogiri 1A
Whatever this is supposed to be - Yogiri
Great Sage and Yogiri 1A.
(Also none of them are created or even discussed with the supporters)
So yeah, that's quite a few CRTs, on pretty heavy topics, ain't it?
But the issues don't end there, most of these CRTs show that the user does practically no research and puts low effort into the CRTs, he doesn't even understand what it is accepted or not, whether it is on a user blog, or just doesn't exist on the wiki (using my posts to specify what part I mean).
Vote manipulation
In the threads I have linked above, you will see how he counts votes differently each time, but one thing remains true: he refuses to add any votes that disagree with him.
His toxicity (Oh Boy, could I fill this up with mild-to-bad stuff, but I will just bring some examples.)
To make this worse, he even reported people for disagreeing with him....
So yeah, we have someone who spams poorly made/researched CRTs, that are often tier 0 or High-tier 1's. Only counts people who agree with him. Is toxic toward everyone who disagreed with him.
First of all: Previous reports
Here, he was reported and warned regarding both spamming CRTs and creating poorly made ones.
Now here begins the new report.
Constant spamming of CRTs (mostly badly made ones. (I will go in order, and ignore anything before the @LuffyRuffy46307 original report regarding spam.)
Venzudoana high 1B, and Anos low 1A
The creators tier 0
Yogiri tier 0
Canonicity of Instant Death and the Demon King vs the Hero
Final group low 1A, Yogiri 1A
Whatever this is supposed to be - Yogiri
Great Sage and Yogiri 1A.
(Also none of them are created or even discussed with the supporters)
So yeah, that's quite a few CRTs, on pretty heavy topics, ain't it?
But the issues don't end there, most of these CRTs show that the user does practically no research and puts low effort into the CRTs, he doesn't even understand what it is accepted or not, whether it is on a user blog, or just doesn't exist on the wiki (using my posts to specify what part I mean).
Vote manipulation
In the threads I have linked above, you will see how he counts votes differently each time, but one thing remains true: he refuses to add any votes that disagree with him.
His toxicity (Oh Boy, could I fill this up with mild-to-bad stuff, but I will just bring some examples.)
He constantly attacks anyone that disagree with him, saying they either know nothing about the verse or just can't read/understand. Another classic is just telling the opposition that their "opinion" is pointless.
To make this worse, he even reported people for disagreeing with him....
So yeah, we have someone who spams poorly made/researched CRTs, that are often tier 0 or High-tier 1's. Only counts people who agree with him. Is toxic toward everyone who disagreed with him.
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Hmm. It at least seems sensible to give him a restriction that disallows him from creating any more content revision threads, but I don't know if anything beyond that is warranted. Are other staff members here willing to evaluate this issue more indepth please?
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If thats possible, i will atleast favour that until he shapes up his behaviour. But if even after that he causes any issues then i will favour Ban.Hmm. It at least seems sensible to give him a restriction that disallows him from creating any more content revision threads, but I don't know if anything beyond that is warranted. Are other staff members here willing to evaluate this issue more indepth please?
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This seems reasonable. Perhaps a topic or thread ban of some kind.Hmm. It at least seems sensible to give him a restriction that disallows him from creating any more content revision threads, but I don't know if anything beyond that is warranted. Are other staff members here willing to evaluate this issue more indepth please?
I agree with Reiner here.
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I already gave him an unofficial warning hereHmm. It at least seems sensible to give him a restriction that disallows him from creating any more content revision threads, but I don't know if anything beyond that is warranted. Are other staff members here willing to evaluate this issue more indepth please?
So this time, i agree that an official warning and a restriction is guaranteed due to how he has been behaving toward other members and due to his constants creation of badly-made CRT
This is the final line, anymore of these stuff, a ban will be considered
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@Azertyhuuh
You have a permanent restriction from being allowed to create any more content revision threads in our forum, and if you continue to be toxic, we will unfortunately have to ban you as well.
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You have a permanent restriction from being allowed to create any more content revision threads in our forum, and if you continue to be toxic, we will unfortunately have to ban you as well.
Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
I agree with the permaban. The forum did register more than an IP overlap as Ant said.
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I apologize if I made any mistakes, but I don’t understand what the problem is with opening a topic for discussion. Isn’t this forum meant for discussions between fans? I don’t see what the issue is with someone opening a topic to discuss things. If there is some other problem that I’m not aware of, then I should be informed about it, since I’m new to this forum.@Azertyhuuh
You have a permanent restriction from being allowed to create any more content revision threads in our forum, and if you continue to be toxic, we will unfortunately have to ban you as well.
Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
I agree with the permaban. The forum did register more than an IP overlap as Ant said.
If there is any issue with my behavior or anything else, please just tell me so I don’t repeat it next time. I’m new here.
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CRTs are supposed to be made to change profiles based on scans, and users must ensure they follow our discussion rules. That is to say, they should not be of 'cheap' quality, they must contain relevant scans and remain logical. If CRTs are spammed by new users who do not yet understand how our tiering system or discussion rules work, it can cause evaluation issues and take attention away from quality threads. We simply won't be able to give reasonable attention to every CRT if the low quality CRTs are spammed and it will be very bad for wiki.
That’s why it is better if you first settle in, understand our rules and tiering system, and review past CRTs, scans, and arguments to understand why a character scales where they currently do. Engage with verse supporters in the verse-specific discussion threads first. Only after discussing your ideas there should you move to create a CRT, ensuring it is of better quality. For now, we have restricted your ability to create CRTs until you become more familiar with our rules, guidelines, and tiering system. You can still participate in verse-specific discussions, but please make sure to remain civil, respectful, and reasonable in them.
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Before opening any topic, I first review all previous topics, check all the comments, and look into the reasons behind them. Only then do I post a new topic. I don’t post without reviewing the previous discussions. In fact, in most of my topics, I always state at the beginning that after reviewing all the previous topics, I found mistakes, and you can verify that. This is why I do not create topics without first checking earlier ones to understand the reasons behind the current ratings.
Also, there are verses here that don’t even have their own discussion management to properly debate these matters with the members. In fact, there isn’t even a proper section for Instant Death and many other works. Meanwhile, there are always open discussion threads for Dragon Ball and similar series, which are genuinely useful. However, there are other works that don’t have open discussion threads to talk about these issues. Despite that, I always put in the effort to review all previous topics and examine all the reasoning before opening any new one, and I always mention that I have reviewed all previous topics beforehand.
I don’t understand what you mean by saying that you restricted my ability to post topics, but it would be better to lift this measure now. This was my first warning, and I am new here, so it’s not logical to restrict a member for something they were unaware of. Especially since I was already checking previous topics before posting anything.
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You can make one Instant Death discussion thread. Every verse specific discussion thread were non existent at some point. Someone created them to discuss the matter.
You may feel that way, but almost all the members involved here are saying there are issues with the reasoning behind your CRTs. Don't you think you could at least consider that maybe there really is an issue you need to work on? As I said before, create a verse specific discussion thread and discuss your queries there with supporters and other users. We will lift the restriction once we see a positive change in your approach. Just have a little patience and get used to the tiering system and guidelines here. Remember your thread about infinity in Instant Death was actually accepted. If your arguments are good, people will agree, or at least the majority will.
I suggest you go through different verse profiles to see why they are tiered where they are. Look through their CRTs, understand the arguments, and notice why certain ones were rejected. Since the RVT is specifically for reporting users and not for discussing how to settle in or understand tiering, we have to end this conversation here. You can, however, ask me further questions in my PMs.
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EHHHHHHH I'm not a fan of instanuking his rights for CRTs FOREVER based on this, but a limited ban and instructing him on wth he actually needs to do for a crt is better
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hmm, probably just me personally, but I don't remember restriction = eternal ban, so what I suggest is that we restrict him from constantly making CRT. Actually, I already gave an instruction to him in my first unofficial warning that he should seek discussion with the verse supporters instead of doing things on his own.
Though, as KingTempest have said, nuking his right to make CRT permanently isn't right, what I suggested is that we limit his CRT-making action as i have said in my post in the first report about Azertyhuuh@Azertyhuuh
You have a permanent restriction from being allowed to create any more content revision threads in our forum, and if you continue to be toxic, we will unfortunately have to ban you as well.
Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
I agree with the permaban. The forum did register more than an IP overlap as Ant said.
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(Sorry for interjecting as non staff)So for how long should his crt-creating restriction last instead? 6 months or longer?
Imo it could be restricted until he’s proven himself to be useful and helpful to the forum, once he’s been shown to contribute well and make reasonable decisions from a sincere perspective and not a “must-wank-all-verses” perspective (or behave in a way that seems like that) then him being able to appeal to get his crt creation right back could probably be better
Because the off chance he was a troll (not saying he is) he could just disappear for 6 months and then comeback doing the same troublesome spam
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I suggest that you lift and remove the ban entirely now, and I will explain the reason, then you can decide for yourself, because I am being treated unfairly right now.So for how long should his crt-creating restriction last instead? 6 months or longer?
_ First, I always review previous topics and their reasons before creating any topic, no matter what. Vietthai96 previously told me that I should first review the content together with the supporters of the work before creating a topic. I understood this at the time, when I was still new and had only joined a day or two earlier. That was in relation to Dragon Ball.
_ Now the issue is that I opened topics about Instant Death. Before opening any topic about this work, I always state that I reviewed all previous topics along with their classification reasons. I even succeeded in a topic about this work, and it was approved. The real problem now is simply that this work does not have an open discussion thread dedicated to it, unlike Dragon Ball or works like Anos Voldigoad, which have open threads where supporters can discuss matters. That helps and reduces the creation of random or repeated topics. However, Instant Death does not have a dedicated open discussion thread for its supporters to discuss matters before opening new topics, and that is the issue. There are also other works with the same problem, which leads to many random topics being created. Despite all of this, I personally still review all previous topics and their reasons before opening a topic about this work, even though it does not have an open discussion thread for supporters. On top of that, I am new to the forum and don’t even know who the supporters of this work are in order to ask them and discuss things with them.
_ So is it really logical to restrict my ability to create topics over something that I am not at fault for? Especially when I already succeeded in a topic about this work despite all o
f that.
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I am not biased, and I have genuinely shown contribution. I actually succeeded in a topic and contributed to raising the level of cosmology in Instant Death to a higher tier. The current problem is not on my side. As I explained in my reply to Antvasima, the entire issue is that Instant Death does not have an open thread for supporters of the work to discuss matters. Despite this, before opening any topic, I always review previous topics and their classification reasons. So is it really logical for a staff member to now restrict my ability to post because of something that does not even exist? This is clear and obvious injustice. Dragon Ball, Tensura, and many other works have open discussion threads, yet Instant Death, despite being a well known work, does not. I genuinely do not understand why it lacks an open thread for discussion among its supporters. How can a staff member tell me that I should have discussed matters with the supporters of the work when they themselves are not aware that this work does not even have a discussion thread in the first place? How can you expect there not to be
multiple topics created about it?
Before every topic I opened, and at the beginning of each one, I always asked for respectful discussion and requested that people do not go off topic. I even repeat this again at the end of the topic every time. Unfortunately, in almost every case, members immediately start mocking and making fun of me in the very first reply, using sarcastic comments, laughing images, and mocking reaction images. This is not done by one or two people, but by groups of members acting together. Because of this behavior, the topic quickly turns chaotic, and within an hour or sometimes even less, it ends up being split into three or more topics. I repeatedly ask them in the comments to stop and stay on topic, but it has no effect. Then, when I respond to them, they label me as biased or hostile, and the situation repeats itself. This does not happen only to me. I have personally seen other users being treated the same way in many different topics.
You and all the staff can review the topics yourselves and clearly see the injustice I am facing, as well as the amount of mockery, disrespect, sarcasm, and ridicule involved. Whenever I try to speak up, I am portrayed as the problematic or biased person. Staff members have stepped in multiple times and issued warnings to those users, sometimes three or four times or more, yet nothing changes. I have also received private messages from veteran members advising me to report them and ignore their behavior. I can provide all evidence if needed, including staff warnings and everything that was said.
Why can people not simply state their opinions respectfully within the topic like everyone else should? Why do they instead choose to mock and disrespect from the very first minute the topic is posted? And again, this is not the action of one or two individuals, but of groups acting together, making it seem as though I am the one at fault, even though the staff themselves have already issued warnings to them for this exact behavior in multiple topics.
At this point, I am being treated unfairly, and I have done nothing wrong.
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I don't know if I'm allowed to comment or not, but I do think that Azerty has a point. The couple first CRTs he did were really low quality, no scans or whatever, so people trolled him a lot. But right now, even if the "quality" of his CRTs may be subject to people's opinion, it is a fact that he tries to make them better and people are still (inside or outside CRTs) trolling him. It can be seen as harmless banters or not, but like, is it even funny in the first place?
I can get it. It was fun once or twice (not really) but right now it's just annoying when I'm not even the guy on the receiving end.
I can get it. It was fun once or twice (not really) but right now it's just annoying when I'm not even the guy on the receiving end.
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I can see him continuously trying to improve and make an effort, which is why I don’t think we need to be overly strict with him right now. That said, looking at it from @Azertyhuuh perspective, he isn't wrong either. Jokes or memes were understandable back when he created CRTs that lacked scans or proposed inflated results, once or twice. However, I noticed this happening even within CRTs that had proper scans, like the infinite Instant Death thread I evaluated. Him losing his temper is understandable, yet his comments don't seem 'over the line' to me compared to the mocking he has faced.What do other staff members here think?
In my view, low quality CRTs are the primary issue rather than his behavior, he isn't entirely to blame for how he has reacted. While 'quality' can be subjective, as Sweetdao mentioned (though I still maintain the quality here is low), perhaps we can create an Instant Death discussion thread. Guide him there to minimize his CRT creation for the time being. I am against a ban or a formal warning because, as he said, he isn't entirely at fault, many people are involved in this situation. That likely served as the catalyst for his harsh words, but from my perspective, he is not overall a toxic person.
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He seems to be constantly trying to improve, but yeah, that is still an issue. But he doesn't usually go against what we advise him to do, as long as he understands the reasoning behind it, that is.Thank you for your evaluation. And what about his supposed spam of outrageously bad content revision threads?
@Azertyhuuh Are you willing to minimize your CRT creations to once a month? That is generally the time it takes for regular users here (almost everyone) to get their arguments evaluated properly by supporters, collect scans, and cross-check their facts. During that time, you can discuss your proposals with the supporters in the verse specific discussion thread.
You can also open a Q&A thread to get opinions on your arguments, but please make sure not to do it too much either. Everyone’s questions deserve equal attention, which isn't possible if a single user asks a series of questions in a short period.
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Alright, thank you for your help, you and @SweetDao , in clarifying the matter here for everyone. Without this, no one would have believed me.
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Yes, but regarding posting only once a month, it seems a bit long. Yes, there may be topics that truly deserve that amount of time, but there are also simple topics that don’t require a whole month of information just to present them. In any case, it depends on the type of topic, but I will reduce the frequency of posting and agree to all the other conditions.So have you accepted Reiner's suggested conditions?
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Unfortunately, only posting one thread per month is mandatory until you have become sufficiently proficient to have that restriction removed, and that will likely take a long time.
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Alright, I agree, but now you will remove the restriction, right?Unfortunately, only posting one thread per month is mandatory until you have become sufficiently proficient to have that restriction removed, and that will likely take a long time.
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No, you will have the discussion thread creation restriction that Reiner described until you have sufficiently proven that you are able to properly craft reasonable content revision threads. Maybe Reiner can evaluate it after 6 months or so?
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I don’t know what is strange about the topics I opened regarding the work Instant Death, especially since one of them was accepted. The only issue is that I am currently the only supporter of this work who is putting in effort to upgrade it. If there is any problem with the topics I opened about Instant Death, then you should at least inform me so that I can know where the problem lies.No, you will have the discussion thread creation restriction that Reiner described until you have sufficiently proven that you are able to properly craft reasonable content revision threads. Maybe Reiner can evaluate it after 6 months or so?
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I tried explaining this to you in our PMs, and it is better not to continue the discussion here any further given its been agreed upon to put restrictions on your CRT creation. It is indeed a requirement for you to slow down on CRT creation and do more research before posting. One month is not even a severe or 'stretched' timeframe. honestly, many users create even fewer than 12 CRTs a year. Since you already agreed in your previous comment to only post one CRT a month anyway, a formal restriction of that kind shouldn't be an issue. We cannot continue to keep discussing a single issue across several pages of RVR, we recognised your issues and the problems you are facing here but we also recognise the issues other users might be facing due to spam of low quality CRTs in such a short duration of time. You need to recognise and work on that issue. No more comment on it.
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Isaiahcd10
Please nuke this.
Please nuke this.
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Deleted. These reports typically go in the Wiki Vandalism Report thread, for future reference.
