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I don't think it's a very serious vandalization, but this user changed the intelligence and speed levels of this character without a CRT. While writing this I also saw that he also made changes to these characters without a CRT xd.
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Reverting and typing up a warning now.
Due to their previous 3 infractions being months ago, I'm content at leaving things just there for now.
EDIT: Done.
Well, it depends on how hateful it is. There an enormously great difference between "I disagree with certain aspects of this due to a rational logical basis" and "I absolutely hate and consider these people as being "Less than human" excrement to the point that I think they should be systematically exterminated". The former does usually not even involve any actual hatred, so I do not want us to turn too draconian and trigger-happy.I would be in favor of extending a ban to permanent based on sockpuppeting, yes. I disagree that hateful speech should be a permanent ban from the get-go, however. It is a serious matter and one possessing of a seriously slippery slope.
That was outright extreme trolling vandalism, so I blocked them permanently instead. That is the kind of member that is only here for the sake of causing deliberate harm.I've left them an instruction and blocked them for a month. Other staff members can feel free to change that.
I don't think it's a very serious vandalization, but this user changed the intelligence and speed levels of this character without a CRT. While writing this I also saw that he also made changes to these characters without a CRT xd.
On the other hand, this was an extremely minor good faith issue, as intelligence levels are usually quite easy to discern from the available information within these statistics sections, so as the person who mostly wrote our intelligence standards, I have corrected quite a lot of blatantly self-evident errors within them myself as part of my ongoing wiki cleanup duties.Reverting and typing up a warning now.
Due to their previous 3 infractions being months ago, I'm content at leaving things just there for now.
EDIT: Done.
Oh, they changed other statistics than intelligence or stamina. That is different then.Thanks, two more things you forgot to edit:
Lubdan's "Peak Human, Subsonic reactions" speed was also something user added without a CRT, the speed of that key should be Superhuman as it was before. Michael's intelligence is still listed as "Average", it should be "Above Average" again.
I'm aware of the definition of hate speech.Well, it depends on how hateful it is. There an enormously great difference between "I disagree with certain aspects of this due to a rational logical basis" and "I absolutely hate and consider these people as being "Less than human" excrement to the point that I think they should be systematically exterminated". The former does usually not even involve any actual hatred, so I do not want us to turn too draconian and trigger-happy.
By itself, pointing out that these two apparently separate users both used Russian scans and both uploaded images with Russian titles is not strong evidence, but it was on top of all these other indicators that they were the same person.Personally, I also thought the Russian scans argument was weak since they're literally Russian, but he's admitting to committing a rule violation anyway by letting a banned user use his account.
But it turned out that there are really many factors.
For this reason, we are sitting on the same imjur account. We literally live in the same house and he plays games on my laptop (Because his GeForce 210 is weaker than She-Hulk).
To be fair, that's not really the case. We in Russia commonly use VPN all the time, since most of the sites are blocked anyway (you can notice me sometimes complaining about wikidot).Snip
That's not the issue here. It's fine to post a scan that someone else posted on their Imgur account, the issue is that this was Vergil's own DeepL translation entry. If they weren't using the same computer, this means that for some reason Vergil sent it to Spider for him to upload it to his own imgur, then sent the link back to Vergil, who then uploaded it here, all fast enough for both to register as having occurred at 16:03.The Imgur account argument is not the best either. I don't know how you all use your Imgur accs, but I doubt that there is anything personal there. It isn't an email to have multiple ones. Especially with vs debating, especially when it was mentioned that they working together on some of them, like Atomic Heart, and calls to it. Which, from personal experience, requires a lot of images.
Let's see what he actually says.However, his defense given above essentially boils down to "this is someone I know in real life who isn't me but uses my computer and thus, was posting on his own account but when he went to imgur it was logged into my account, but there's no IP overlap because we use VPNs in Russia."
I would like to report @Kirinator07Yeah, the edits themselves varied- some were definite rule violations, but others used as evidence were comparatively very light. I'd consider the deleting of staff warnings to be a more worrying offense, and must wonder if the problem is less the editing of profiles and more just not respecting our rules in general. If he was warned for any similar behavior in the past, a short ban may be in order, I think.
Still, if we are overall decided on just an editing ban, I support the notion, I think mid-length serves our purposes given the count and in addition to the "ignoring staff warnings" bit. Kneejerk number, since this appears to be what Agnaa is fishing for here, 3-6 months of being disallowed from editing mainspace.
I would like to just post this from this page and nothing else to make it easily accessible to staff. https://vsbattles.com/threads/warning-tracker.155503/I would like to report @Kirinator07
I was having a discussion between characters in the top 10 non smurf thread of each tier.
And when told about the weakness of the SCP that Kirinator was defending, he apparently edited the SCP profile to remove that weakness on the same day, without binding a crt.
Link to the edit he made
Kirinator07: 25
- Categories in userspace: 2 (First Warning, Second Warning)
- Changing a profile without a CRT: 7 (First Warning, Second Warning, Third Warning, Fourth Warning, Fifth Warning, Sixth Warning, Seventh Warning)
- Creating low-quality profiles: 2 (First Warning, Second Warning)
- Deleting staff warnings: 2 (First Warning, Second Warning)
- Improperly formatted edit: 12 (First Warning, Second Warning, Third Warning, Fourth Warning, Fifth Warning, Sixth Warning, Seventh Warning, Eighth Warning, Ninth Warning, Tenth Warning, Eleventh Warning, Twelfth Warning)
Agnaa, I believe, was the one to make a warning about this on his wall on the wiki.Wasn't he supposed to be banned from profile editing but that was never applied?
I've now left a notification for a 6 month editing restriction.
Btw, just to add more to this, it seems Kirinator also deleted the message by Agnaa regarding that edit restriction.Hmm. Do you have anything to say in your defence, @Kirinator07 ?