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Thanks for helping out.I gave aktrguser a warning message, and also deleted most of his reposted discussion threads, except for two that had gained a reasonable number of responses and were posted in different forums.
What'd they do ( if you don't mind my curiosity )?Our member @SR001 would really like to be allowed to come back to this forum and wiki.
He has promised to not post any more material that breaks the rules and regulations of our community, and will do his best to be as well-behaved as possible. He said that if he breaks our rules in the future, he will accept a permanent ban.
I personally think that we can reduce his ban period to at most a month or so.
sameWhat'd they do ( if you don't mind my curiosity )?
Posted a uncensored **** on his own profile....What'd they do ( if you don't mind my curiosity )?
I see, I wasn't aware of this.Eh! An apology after trying to create multiple socks to get around the ban, which in itself is permabanworthy? If he had apologized before trying out different alts, I would have agreed. But given the situation now, I feel like a month is too lenient.
I am not trying to excuse his behaviors but if you look at other perspective side, he seems to be oblivious and have zero cognition in those regulations. Also, “sock” accounts topics, maybe he did not know that those are bannable offense since YouTube and Google also allow those. So ya.Eh! An apology after trying to create multiple socks to get around the ban, which in itself is permabanworthy? If he had apologized before trying out different alts, I would have agreed. But given the situation now, I feel like a month is too lenient.
Just because you don't know the rules does not excuse you from breaking them. Not reading the rules and finding out what is or is not allowed is entirely on them and is not an excuse.I am not trying to excuse his behaviors but if you look at other perspective side, he seems to be oblivious and have zero cognition in those regulations. Also, “sock” accounts topics, maybe he did not know that those are bannable offense since YouTube and Google also allow those. So ya.
It is just other perspective side. I am not trying to excuse him at all, but enlightening for you.
I agree with this. As I said, I was not trying to excuse his poor knowledge. It is just other perspective side.Just because you don't know the rules does not excuse you from breaking them. Not reading the rules and finding out what is or is not allowed is entirely on them and is not an excuse.
The other side's perspective is wrong, and bringing it up is trying to make muddy a clear-cut situation and excuse a rule break. Stop doing that, it's not helpful.I agree with this. As I said, I was not trying to excuse his poor knowledge. It is just other perspective side.
you're not wrong. but it was done from ignorance rather than done with malicious intent. so maybe lighten the sentence given to the user abit.The other side's perspective is wrong, and bringing it up is trying to make muddy a clear-cut situation and excuse a rule break. Stop doing that, it's not helpful.
Taking part in the wiki comes with the agreement that you follow the wiki's rules. If you don't read those rules and then proceed to break them, then that is all on you and is not excusable.you're not wrong. but it was done from ignorance rather than done with malicious intent. so maybe lighten the sentence given to the user abit.
I'm pretty sure more than three-fourth of the members don't read the wiki rulesTaking part in the wiki comes with the agreement that you follow the wiki's rules. If you don't read those rules and then proceed to break them, then that is all on you and is not excusable.
Yeah okay I'm changing my stance on this. Wasn't aware he had taken to using socks.I suppose that's fine.
Taking Google and YouTube as examples in such a scenario would be a bad idea for him then, since those are gigantic corpos that don't give a shit about permanently getting rid of troublesome users unless you gain particular infamy for it.I am not trying to excuse his behaviors but if you look at other perspective side, he seems to be oblivious and have zero cognition in those regulations. Also, “sock” accounts topics, maybe he did not know that those are bannable offense since YouTube and Google also allow those. So ya.
This does not really clarify that everyone knows how forum TOS and guidelines functions.Taking Google and YouTube as examples in such a scenario would be a bad idea for him then, since those are gigantic corpos that don't give a shit about permanently getting rid of troublesome users unless you gain particular infamy for it.
I agree with this. Again, I am not trying to excuse his behavior, I am enlightening his perspective side.Even if he is oblivious to how the wiki functions and to its rules in general, I don't see how his logic is justifiable. "I got banned, let's make other accounts to circumvent the ban" is not a display of ignorance, it's a lack of common sense.
They should, but luckily they don't manage to break any rules so it doesn't matter.I'm pretty sure more than three-fourth of the members don't read the wiki rules
Uh, he is saying that the message on his screen was displayed that you should contact DDM or Ant or smth, I don't know never have been banned before to know if something like this happens but he couldn't contact them with that account, so he made an account to contact them.Even if he is oblivious to how the wiki functions and to its rules in general, I don't see how his logic is justifiable. "I got banned, let's make other accounts to circumvent the ban" is not a display of ignorance, it's a lack of common sense
It would matter if one day we find out there are more sock puppets than it seems.They should, but luckily they don't manage to break any rules so it doesn't matter.
My point there wasn't saying that they should know the ToS, my point was that even if they're used to Google and YouTube shit, they should've been able to guess that a closer, more tight-knit and faaaaar smaller community with active admins =/= multibillion dollar corpo, right down to the rules on circumventing blocks being more strict. It's just logical.This does not really clarify that everyone knows how forum TOS and guidelines functions.
No I doesn't. Then we just ban them.It would matter if one day we find out there are more sock puppets than it seems.
Not everyone is logical and would understand this POV.My point there wasn't saying that they should know the ToS, my point was that even if they're used to Google and YouTube shit, they should've been able to guess that a closer, more tight-knit and faaaaar smaller community with active admins =/= multibillion dollar corpo, right down to the rules on circumventing blocks being more strict. It's just logical.
Yes. I comprehend that. And that is why they will stay banned.Not everyone is logical and would understand this.
Site RulesI know this has nothing to do with it, but what is not allowed on Vsbttles and what are the rules? I'd like to read them so I don't make any mistakes.
He stated to me that he only wanted to use the sockpuppet accounts to get a chance to speak for himself and clarify any misunderstandings. He doesn't seem old enough to understand that this is not allowed. He gives a very clueless impression in general.Eh! An apology after trying to create multiple socks to get around the ban, which in itself is permabanworthy? If he had apologized before trying out different alts, I would have agreed. But given the situation now, I feel like a month is too lenient.
If that is true, he could have talked to me here when he contacted me on the wiki to get me to approve his sock. I even warned him not to create socks. He ignored it and proceeded to create another sock and approach me again to get me to approve it. It was after I approved it that I checked the new account was his sock. Before all this, he had already tried creating 5 more socks, excluding the two mentioned above and his original account.He stated to me that he only wanted to use the sockpuppet accounts to get a chance to speak for himself and clarify any misunderstandings. He doesn't seem old enough to understand that this is not allowed. He gives a very clueless impression in general.
If you didn't read what I said or perhaps you were too illiterate to read what I said
lmao is your self awareness so low that you can't even begin to fathom how hypocritical that is average debater I expect nothing less no critical thinking skills and low self awareness