Roblox vs Minecraft (Player [Elemental Battlegrounds] vs Player [Minecraft])

[Arkansalter2]

Part 1 of this installment

Steve is 7-C with all of his equipment EXCEPT wither potions of any kind (EBG man would kinda just die).
Speed is equalized

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[TheObscureGameGuy]

nah what dude. what does Steve even have that could possibly take EBG John down??

 

[Arkansalter2]

nah what dude. what does Steve even have that could possibly take EBG John down??

Lightning manipulation and thorns.

 

[IDK3465]

Yeah, while Steve can probably use milk to deal with most of John EBG’s stuff, there’s certain stuff in there that he just strait up doesn’t have an answer to (like Time Stop) and especially with that AP difference (at least 3.08x), it seems decisively in John EGB’s favor

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

Agreed.

Also, since Steve has all gear except wither potions, can I say that Steve creates a massive army of withers then proceed to fly away with fireworks & elytra while EBG eventually gets overwhelmed?

 

[Kachon123]

I honestly don't see how EBG can win here. Steve has access to all of his equipment and potions, meaning he has the speed advantage, likely strength advantage over time with potions and enchantments, near infinite healing with golden apples and enchanted golden apples, and can combo EBG badly.

EBG has no reliable healing options and would mostly rely on 1-3 second i-frames and hyperarmor to get through attacks, but eventually he'll just die. Meanwhile with enchanted netherite armor, a shield and/or totem (for extra lives), and heals can take attacks for literal minutes up to an hour straight before burning through all his equipment.

With wind charges and a mace he could also oneshot.

 

[Arkansalter2]

I honestly don't see how EBG can win here. Steve has access to all of his equipment and potions, meaning he has the speed advantage, likely strength advantage over time with potions and enchantments, near infinite healing with golden apples and enchanted golden apples, and can combo EBG badly.

I'm not buying that one chief. This is a 3x AP advantage and John EBG upscales vastly from his value via silly scaling chain.

EBG has no reliable healing options and would mostly rely on 1-3 second i-frames and hyperarmor to get through attacks, but eventually he'll just die.

No... John EBG has plenty of ways to heal himself. John EBG has MUCH better survivability than Steve. John EBG has Immo 2 and 3. He ain't dying unless steve somehow just rips him in half or something.

With wind charges and a mace he could also oneshot.

That's so easily telegraphable it's not even funny. Nothing is stopping player from legitimately godsniping bro out the air.

Also... Ultimates would just straight up nuke Steve and whatever he creates.

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

What I’m seeing here is that EBG dude has paralysis inducement, stun, and time stop, while also have better defenses against melee and ranged due to shields from stuff like Gravity. Can blind Steve and trick him with fakes. Has tons of AoE too.

Steve has better stats due to potions and buffs, making him faster and stronger while also making EBG slower. Has superior regen and health with god apples and totems. Can easily escape to heal with fireworks and elytra. Though, no way to attack or approach EBG due to his spells.

Basically, Steve cannot get close or interact much or else he might get stunned and hit into oblivion. Steve will realize he cannot attack this dude, and might just end up creating an army of Withers in the area, and before they kill him himself, he dips with the elytra and fireworks and then lets EBG deal with it until he gets overwhelmed which would be ez ggs for Steve. Sure his ultimates would be useful against this army, but you can’t stop all of em.

 

[Kachon123]

I'm not buying that one chief. This is a 3x AP advantage and John EBG upscales vastly from his value via silly scaling chain.

Have you ever played minecraft? Do you understand how big of a damage difference a base diamond sword is compared to a sharpness netherite sword with a full strength potion? I'm being so serious when I say that a fully kitted Steve would have the advantage here.

No... John EBG has plenty of ways to heal himself. John EBG has MUCH better survivability than Steve. John EBG has Immo 2 and 3. He ain't dying unless steve somehow just rips him in half or something.

This just is not true. Steve is essentially infinitely regenerating with mending and damage soaking armor. As well at totems of undying to literally revive himself however many times he wants.

That's so easily telegraphable it's not even funny. Nothing is stopping player from legitimately godsniping bro out the air.

Also... Ultimates would just straight up nuke Steve and whatever he creates.

Ender pearls, chorus fruit, elytra, etc.

 

[Kachon123]

Steve has better stats due to potions and buffs, making him faster and stronger while also making EBG slower. Has superior regen and health with god apples and totems. Can easily escape to heal with fireworks and elytra. Though, no way to attack or approach EBG due to his spells.

Basically, Steve cannot get close or interact much or else he might get stunned and hit into oblivion. Steve will realize he cannot attack this dude, and might just end up creating an army of Withers in the area, and before they kill him himself, he dips with the elytra and fireworks and then lets EBG deal with it until he gets overwhelmed which would be ez ggs for Steve. Sure his ultimates would be useful against this army, but you can’t stop all of em.

With full equipment Steve has access to totems which would let him just continue to run in, or poison throwing potions from afar. He also has shields which can block any spell pretty much

He also has items which he can use to build cover and protection from spells, or dig underground and trap him with a water bucket + sign.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Have you ever played minecraft? Do you understand how big of a damage difference a base diamond sword is compared to a sharpness netherite sword with a full strength potion? I'm being so serious when I say that a fully kitted Steve would have the advantage here.

Is Steve allowed to crystal pvp on this site

 

[Kachon123]

Is Steve allowed to crystal pvp on this site

Yeah with full equipment he can just craft it

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Yeah with full equipment he can just craft it

Does EBG have a counter to this

 

[Arkansalter2]

Basically, Steve cannot get close or interact much or else he might get stunned and hit into oblivion. Steve will realize he cannot attack this dude, and might just end up creating an army of Withers in the area, and before they kill him himself, he dips with the elytra and fireworks and then lets EBG deal with it

An army of enemies is nothing that John EBG hasn't dealt with before. Withers may pose a problem but they take time to set up and John EBG will very quickly nuke the blocks and just straight up piece up the wither before he could do any substantial things.

Have you ever played minecraft? Do you understand how big of a damage difference a base diamond sword is compared to a sharpness netherite sword with a full strength potion? I'm being so serious when I say that a fully kitted Steve would have the advantage here.

Against other minecraft players? Absolutely. But Steve is facing off against a roblox player who again upscales from his value via silly scaling chain.

This just is not true. Steve is essentially infinitely regenerating with mending and damage soaking armor. As well at totems of undying to literally revive himself however many times he wants.

Player also has ways to regen. Although he wouldn't really need it since he'd be godtanking and noselling everything that Steve throws at him. Player nosells everything equal and greater than him so this will be no problem.

Ender pearls, chorus fruit, elytra, etc.

Teleportation... teleportation... flight... all of which he has dealt with before.

Does EBG have a counter to this

Literally any transportation spell or starting a combo the moment bro gets close.

 

[Kachon123]

Does EBG have a counter to this

No. Especially not when EBG is splashed with slowness potions while Steve would have swiftness

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Literally any transportation spell or starting a combo the moment bro gets close.

You think crystal pvpers dont have like 20 stacks of ender pearls in their inventory?

 

[Kachon123]

Against other minecraft players? Absolutely. But Steve is facing off against a roblox player who again upscales from his value via silly scaling chain.

The same is said for Steve and with a literal sharpness enchantment among others, he's getting cut up very badly.

Teleportation... teleportation... flight... all of which he has dealt with before.

How does this compare to what Steve has AT ALL??

Player also has ways to regen. Although he wouldn't really need it since he'd be godtanking and noselling everything that Steve throws at him. Player nosells everything equal and greater than him so this will be no problem.

No he will not. Poison will bring him to one-shot, explosives will deal massive damage, and suffocation traps would finish the fight instantly.

 

[Arkansalter2]

You think crystal pvpers dont have like 20 stacks of ender pearls in their inventory?

I do think that. The thing is teleportation is something that John EBG has dealt with before a myriad of times before. Might I mention that Player's teleportation can go straight through walls.

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

With full equipment Steve has access to totems which would let him just continue to run in, or poison throwing potions from afar. He also has shields which can block any spell pretty much

He also has items which he can use to build cover and protection from spells, or dig underground and trap him with a water bucket + sign.

How the heck do you use totems of undying on a gravity shield that constantly pushes things outward if anything tries to go in it? How do you use totems of undying on Storm AoE that stun and render Steve useless?

An army of enemies is nothing that John EBG hasn't dealt with before. Withers may pose a problem but they take time to set up and John EBG will very quickly nuke the blocks and just straight up piece up the wither before he could do any substantial things.

Yeah and he dies to those armies. The nukes will maybe kill some, but they’re flying and there’s dozens of projectiles. They also have the same durability as steve and can survive lava temperatures. Plus, one hells core wouldn’t kill the entire army at em

Anyways I fully believe Steve cannot get close and use any of his mace attacks, poison attacks etc and eventually create the wither army that will overwhelm EBG and he’s dead. That’s how Steve wins

 

[Kachon123]

How the heck do you use totems of undying on a gravity shield that constantly pushes things if anything tries to go in it? How do you use totems of undying on Storm AoE that stun and render Steve useless.

Totem of undying is a passive when on Steve's off-hand which instantly revives him and gives him regeneration. Any of those spells (if they even get through Steve's armor) would just trigger the revival. I'm confused on your question on "how" he'd use it because it's not something he needs to actively do.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Withers may pose a problem but they take time to set up and John EBG will very quickly nuke the blocks and just straight up piece up the wither before he could do any substantial things.

Give Steve prep time fr

 

[Arkansalter2]

The same is said for Steve and with a literal sharpness enchantment among others, he's getting cut up very badly.

No... John EBG can have a whole spear through his body and have new assholes pierced into his head. That's not doing a damn.

Poison will bring him to one-shot

Viable wincon.

explosives will deal massive damage

Are you f***ing serious?

suffocation traps would finish the fight instantly.

Do you forget that all blocks that Steve make are destructible??? Player just instantly destroys those blocks with any spell.

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

Totem of undying is a passive when on Steve's off-hand which instantly revives him and gives him regeneration. Any of those spells (if they even get through Steve's armor) would just trigger the revival. I'm confused on your question on "how" he'd use it because it's not something he needs to actively do.

completely ignored my examples on things the totem of undying wouldn’t counter or do anything about if he tries to brute force his way into hitting EBG, or any item for that matter. everyone’s played minecraft, dude. that’s not what I’m trying to say. things like totems of undying are not going to let him in EBG’s way because of his gravity spells, shield and his AoE stuns.

why is it so hard to debate simple things

but I’m still gonna most likely vote Steve due to summoning on my previous ex.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yeah and he dies to those armies. The nukes will maybe kill some, but they’re flying and there’s dozens of projectiles. They also have the same durability as steve and can survive lava temperatures. Plus, one hells core wouldn’t kill the entire army at em

They take time to set up so those blocks will instantly get destroyed. The wither is a massive target so a charged poison needle with probably do the trick against any one of them. Player has a 3x AP advantage against those too and a simple gravital glove makes everything steve has useless.

 

[Kachon123]

No... John EBG can have a whole spear through his body and have new assholes pierced into his head. That's not doing a damn.

And he's taken damage each time so what's your point?

Are you f***ing serious?

Yes. I am.


Not all explosions are created equal. These are literally oneshotting people with layered armor with enchantments and shields. Being able to take a fireball does not mean EBG is tanking an end crystal to the face. If he tries he's dying on the spot.

Do you forget that all blocks that Steve make are destructible??? Player just instantly destroys those blocks with any spell.

Water + sign traps are not. Armor stand traps are also not.

 

[Arkansalter2]

And he's taken damage each time so what's your point?

Getting stabbed pretty hard won't do a damn to John EBG. That's all.

Being able to take a fireball does not mean EBG is tanking an end crystal to the face. If he tries he's dying on the spot.

Player's durability also upscales from his original value. Plus, he can take a whole created "sun" explosion to the dome piece. It'll hurt but it won't kill. EBG McGee has Immo 2 and 3 so he can face tank that.

Water + sign traps are not. Armor stand traps are also not.

1. How would he do that? He would have to set up an elaborate trap and pray that John EBG actually is stupid enough to fall into it and not immediately... I don't know.. teleport? Even if he does end up in the trap, again, the teleport goes through walls.
2. completely fine underwater

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

They take time to set up so those blocks will instantly get destroyed. The wither is a massive target so a charged poison needle with probably do the trick against any one of them. Player has a 3x AP advantage against those too and a simple gravital glove makes everything steve has useless.

yeah they do so that’s why Steve goes somewhere safe by flying with his Elytra then having to build a dozen of withers. 1. Yeah charge up against hundreds of withers with explosive projectiles knocking you around, draining your health and is giving EBG withering like dude he’s cooked.

They take time to set up so those blocks will instantly get destroyed. The wither is a massive target so a charged poison needle with probably do the trick against any one of them. Player has a 3x AP advantage against those too and a simple gravital glove makes everything steve has useless.

omg gravital glove is THE EXACT SAME THING I WAS ARGUING FOR THE EBG SIDE OF NOT BEING ABLE TO BRUTE FORCE EBG BY BEING ON THE BATTLEFIELD INSTEAD OF HAVING A ARMY OVERWHELM HIM HOW SHI IS THIS DEBATEEEE. READ MY ARGUMENTS. SOMEONE.

what everyone’s saying will not work someone just gotta trust my wither plan I’ve played EBG before

 

[Arkansalter2]

yeah they do so that’s why Steve goes somewhere safe by flying with his Elytra then having to build a dozen of withers. 1. Yeah charge up against hundreds of withers with explosive projectiles knocking you around, draining your health and is giving EBG withering like dude he’s cooked.

Polaris or Ultra-Sonic Wail takes them all out at once.

 

[Kachon123]

Getting stabbed pretty hard won't do a damn to John EBG. That's all.

Cool. Doesn't change the fact that with weapon enchantments and potions they will be doing damage. Significant damage.

Player's durability also upscales from his original value. Plus, he can take a whole created "sun" explosion to the dome piece. It'll hurt but it won't kill. EBG McGee has Immo 2 and 3 so he can face tank that.

So... do... minecraft players. Resilient immortality and regeneration doesn't stop you from getting blown up. He still has a health bar.

1. How would he do that? He would have to set up an elaborate trap and pray that John EBG actually is stupid enough to fall into it and not immediately... I don't know.. teleport? Even if he does end up in the trap, again, the teleport goes through walls.

The block above the target is broken and a sign is put on the block that the target is standing on. It literally takes a second.

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

Polaris or Ultra-Sonic Wail takes them all out at once.

Maybe, maybe not, Polaris is short and stuff like Ultra-Sonic Wail and Hell’s Core might take out a chunk but not gonna be funny if there’s still left over then behind EBG’s back Steve flying a hundred dozen more to his location.

I’m still doubtful of Steve brute forcing because he’s just gonna get paralysis inducemented and combo’d or hit with stuff like getting transported into the shadow realm with Technology ult where he goes to a virtual pocket dimension (new ability addition ?)

 

[Kachon123]

Maybe, maybe not, Polaris is short and stuff like Ultra-Sonic Wail and Hell’s Core might take out a chuck but not gonna be funny if there’s still left over then behind EBG’s back Steve flying a hundred dozen more to his location.

The fact that for the vast majority of EBG's spells, he becomes stationary for a fairly significant amount of time. Using an elytra or wind charge into a mace the moment a spell like Polaris ends would kill him.

 

[AThe1412]

 

[Arkansalter2]

He still has a health bar.

Health points are game mechanics but cool I guess.

Significant damage.

Ok but trying to get close to John EBG is an almighty death sentence as that is combo city for John EBG.

Polaris is short

Polaris lasts for like 10 seconds and it shoots homing projectiles at basically everyone up under the aurora. None of them are surviving.

The block above the target is broken and a sign is put on the block that the target is standing on. It literally takes a second.

Didn't address the teleportation argument. Cool. Suffocation out the window. Anyways.

I’m still doubtful of Steve brute forcing because he’s just gonna get paralysis inducemented and combo’d or hit with stuff like getting transported into the shadow realm with Technology ult where he goes to a virtual pocket dimension (new ability addition ?)

Steve trying to brute foce is an almighty death sentence because that is combo heaven for John EBG.

Polaris ends would kill him.

Air attacks are nothing new to John EBG. What I just shown you, was an air attack. That's another wincon out the window.

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

The fact that for the vast majority of EBG's spells, he becomes stationary for a fairly significant amount of time. Using an elytra or wind charge into a mace the moment a spell like Polaris ends would kill him.

Polaris makes him stationary? Thought that stuff was like for Hell’s Core. Not Polaris.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Polaris makes him stationary?

Polaris, in fact, does not make you stationary.

Kachon, stop acting like you know more about the verse than the people actively supporting the verse.

 

[Kachon123]

Polaris, in fact, does not make you stationary.

Kachon, stop acting like you know more about the verse than the people actively supporting the verse.

? What are you talking about? If he's using Polaris he's literally incapable of using any other spell to stun Steve. He's a sitting duck because Steve can literally fly.

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

Polaris lasts for like 10 seconds and it shoots homing projectiles at basically everyone up under the aurora. None of them are surviving.

Withers will still shoot. Some might move. Some may survive. And another things for sure

He ain’t surviving second batch of withers.

 

[Arkansalter2]

He's a sitting duck because Steve can literally fly.

Polaris lasts for like 10 seconds and it shoots homing projectiles at basically everyone up under the aurora. None of them are surviving.

This applies to players within the aurora's vincinity.

 

[Kachon123]

This applies to players within the aurora's vincinity.

Steve has a shield and slow falling. He can stay in the air and block the whole spell while preparing a mace drop.

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

? What are you talking about? If he's using Polaris he's literally incapable of using any other spell to stun Steve. He's a sitting duck because Steve can literally fly.

He becomes a sitting duck but Steve still gonna be hit if Steve goes into the area? I’m sure EBG will start sliding and doing flips which might misdirect any shot of mace. It’ll only lead to Steve flying away

Steve has a shield and slow falling. He can stay in the air and block the whole spell while preparing a mace drop.

Burn damage might bypass shield, if that also gets blocked it comes from a different way every time it fires so idk if he’s able to block all of that unless he’s lucky.