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Riordanverse Review

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That should probably be fine.
 
Big Three demigods have several Island Level feats. I guess Annabeth, Luke and weakened Titans scale.

Also about demigod Striking Strength. The Town Level feat is Striking Strength. Percy should be Town Class with Riptide.

Jason moved his gladius in the path of the lightning. They weigh 0.7 to 1 kilograms. The speed was Mach 62 to 81.

Low end: Small Building Class

High end: Building Class
 
Only Percy, Hazel and Nico scale to Island Level, and ONLY in manipulation. Not Physically, no other Demigods. Titans also only scale in Manipulation.
 
@Barry

I don't see the issue with scaling them physically either.

Powerful demigods like the Big Three's children have taken on (weakened) Titans in close combat. Percy wrestled Iapetus into the River Lethe. Jason clashed with Krios on the West Coast. Percy also traded blows with an extremely held back Ares and replicated Atlas' sky-lifting feat (albeit with a boost and great strain).
 
1.) The Sky feat is contradicted by all other feats before and after. Even going by recent shows, Percy and Jason while controlled and Bloodlusted only shook the ground a litte which results in only Small-Building level-Building level strength, then for Percy to be momentarily knocked unconscious by a Lightning Bolt that does far less damage than Mt. St. Helens to him then to be knocked completely out by Black Jack. And Jason being knocked completely out from Percy tripping him.

The fight with Iepatus didn't have Percy wrestle him in the lake, he manipulated the lake. Iepatus had him, Thalia and Nico running. And note, Krios is the weakest of the 4 brothers.

Physically, they haven't shown feats greater than building level across all stats, the sky feat should be outlier because of this fact. Even Annabeth breaks her bones from a like 15ft fall. Honestly, it's like 3 years sense I've even finished HoO and even longer for the Original series, so I have to go back but Percy and Jason have been injured bu fodder monster even, iirc. There is too much against their manipulation to scale it to their physical stats.

Krios would scale to Jason and Percy physically, but that's it. The weakened Titans via manipulation are far superior and only Iepatus, Hyperion and Kronos scale higher across all stats.
 
BarryAllen2.0 said:
1.) The Sky feat is contradicted by all other feats before and after. Even going by recent shows, Percy and Jason while controlled and Bloodlusted only shook the ground a litte which results in only Small-Building level-Building level strength, then for Percy to be momentarily knocked unconscious by a Lightning Bolt that does far less damage than Mt. St. Helens to him then to be knocked completely out by Black Jack. And Jason being knocked completely out from Percy tripping him.
The fight with Iepatus didn't have Percy wrestle him in the lake, he manipulated the lake. Iepatus had him, Thalia and Nico running. And note, Krios is the weakest of the 4 brothers.

Physically, they haven't shown feats greater than building level across all stats, the sky feat should be outlier because of this fact. Even Annabeth breaks her bones from a like 15ft fall. Honestly, it's like 3 years sense I've even finished HoO and even longer for the Original series, so I have to go back but Percy and Jason have been injured bu fodder monster even, iirc. There is too much against their manipulation to scale it to their physical stats.

Krios would scale to Jason and Percy physically, but that's it. The weakened Titans via manipulation are far superior and only Iepatus, Hyperion and Kronos scale higher across all stats.

Agreed. We can possibly scale him in physical strength from some monsters like the minotaur.
 
BarryAllen2.0 said:
1.) The Sky feat is contradicted by all other feats before and after. Even going by recent shows, Percy and Jason while controlled and Bloodlusted only shook the ground a litte which results in only Small-Building level-Building level strength, then for Percy to be momentarily knocked unconscious by a Lightning Bolt that does far less damage than Mt. St. Helens to him then to be knocked completely out by Black Jack. And Jason being knocked completely out from Percy tripping him.

The fight with Iepatus didn't have Percy wrestle him in the lake, he manipulated the lake. Iepatus had him, Thalia and Nico running. And note, Krios is the weakest of the 4 brothers.

Physically, they haven't shown feats greater than building level across all stats, the sky feat should be outlier because of this fact. Even Annabeth breaks her bones from a like 15ft fall. Honestly, it's like 3 years sense I've even finished HoO and even longer for the Original series, so I have to go back but Percy and Jason have been injured bu fodder monster even, iirc. There is too much against their manipulation to scale it to their physical stats.

Krios would scale to Jason and Percy physically, but that's it. The weakened Titans via manipulation are far superior and only Iepatus, Hyperion and Kronos scale higher across all stats.
Building level in phys stats?

We have town to mountain level feats with Percy. And it is not like we are asking to upgrade him to multi continent level, this is in the realms of reality because those feats to begin were casually.

And honestly, I am going to occams razor here If percy, nico, etc were injured by feats that contradicted their primary stats currently on the wiki, that is because they were either A. Caught off guard Or B. Didnt know their opponents true strength

And no, there is no. 'But what if.' No. We can disagree on the island level percy, that is fine But this argument is shaky at best. We are talking about a percy who is town level to island level with feats.

I think at this point a good compromise would be either 'At Most 6-C' or 'Likely/Possibly 6-C" and upgrade his base to 7-A at meoso's suggestion Otherwise we will be here forever arguing semantics.

Edit: I am clearly done with this thread, this is a circle jerk at this point. I will come back and chime in if something new comes into play,
 
Also for Striking Strength Small Building to Building Class for the Jason gladius feat. And Percy has a Town Level Striking Strength feat.
 
Please tell me you guys aren't attributing the glacier shuddering to Percy's physical strength when its painfully painfully painfully obvious its because of his summoning of the water up the glacier.
 
They should be somewhat comparable, As. Luke has beaten Percy multiple times, and Annabetj can take on bothnLuke & Percy consistently . However, she isn't as strong. Hence, possibly 6-C should work.
 
Guys, let's think about this Logically please. The Demigods can't possibly 6-C, 95% of their feats suggest they are FAR lower. Physically, the strongest the demigods have only shown Small building to building level strength and have been hurt by far less.


The Sky feat is outlier, they have no other showings suggesting they can scale to it and their physical feats prove as much. All other feats up at such level have been via manipulation of their powers. Percy, Nico and Hazel are the only ones who have basis to scale to 6-C through manipulation of their powers (Such as Percy wrecking Hubbard Glacier). That doesn't scale to their physical stats.

The reason Jason and Thalia wouldn't scale is because a Blood lusted Jason did far less damage to Percy with his Lightning than Mt. St. Helens. Which is even more proof against 6-C demigods. Annabeth being island level is really wank, come on guys. You can't scale from The Titans Curse, there is far too much weighing against it. For gods sake, Mark of Athena by itself contradicts Annabeths feats in TTC.
 
Do you agree with the Building Class Striking Strength feat?

Also the PJ feats are very inconsistent, you can say the TTC feat is an outlier but I too can say the Mark of Athena feats are PIS.
 
@Barry

We usually go by characters' highest showings.

For example, Goku has only actually started tearing apart the universe once, but since he's gotten stronger since that feat, we still assume he's Universe level.

Percy and co. have taken the physical fight to the Titans and Giants, who can tank their normal attacks as well as the usage of their powers.
 
@Barry

Once again, you are literally expecting every fight scene to include nuclear explosions or apocalyptic consequences. The Demigods have various Tier 7 feats and also a Tier 6 feat done by multiple Demigods.
 
@Spinosaurus

Yes, I agree withbthe 8-C striking, Percy ans Jason's clashing shaking the ground proves that much at least.


As for the other stuff, I'll concede to the majority, but I don't agree.
 
Can somebody improve upon the profile explanations for why the stronger demigods are 6-C? Being stronger than a character that destroyed a small island does not sound like anywhere near 6-C for our visitors.
 
@Matthew Okay. Thank you. Although quite a lot of other PJ characters need to be adjusted as well. Perhaps others here are willing to help you out?
 
@Antvasima

I edited all the demigod profiles. I am very doubtful on Kane's legitimacy. Percy defeated him while making casual conversation and Kane had to focus a lot to simply block his attacks. Plus Percy is the most powerful demigod alive of the Verse.
 
Okay. Thank you, but I think that several other characters, such as the weakened titans, have been scaled from them as well.

You can adjust Kane if you wish.
 
Suggested by Ant: Since we scale all big three demigods from hazels feat now (destroying a small island), we need a calculation to match this.this.

Or did I get something wrong and we still use the sky feat ?
 
@Meosos I do not remember, but if you think that I told you to do so, I was likely not up to speed on this discussion, and misunderstood. It is best to scale from a valid calculation.
 
@S75DF If they can withstand attacks from characters of similar power, and also harm them physically, they should have equal attack potency, durability, and striking strength.
 
Also, is anybody willing to help Matthew with adjusting the remaining profiles?
 
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