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Riordanverse Review

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The guy used it to say that Apollo should be the strongest if we rate them by their sphere of influence. But while, say, Poseidon actually controls the whole sea, Apollo doesn't control the actual sun.

And, yeah, as far as what was shown, it's just a flaming flying car.
 
So, conclusion ?

All Major Gods (Except the Big Three): At least Continent level (for fighting with the Titans, which vaporized the Mediterranean Sea), possibly Moon level (For Artemis creating a constellation)

Big Three : Multi-Continent level (For control over their respective domains and Zeus creating a planetary flood), possibly Moon level (Same Reason as above)

All Gods : Class T Lifting Strength and Mountain Class (Weaker Gods) or Large Mountain Class (Physical Stronger Gods) Striking Strength, Multi-Continent to Planetary Range

Furthermore: Should we add Type 8 Immortality ? ("Gods can also fade from existence — either from a lack of worship or the diminishing of their domain (such gods are Helios, Selene and Pan respectively")
 
@Matt

How should we handle their whole, "Turn mortals into constellations" thing? Since virtually every Olympian can do this without much effort.
 
@Cal

It takes a lot more than the amount of matter in the body of a mortal to make a constellation.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Matt
How should we handle their whole, "Turn mortals into constellations" thing? Since virtually every Olympian can do this without much effort.
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As we can see in Artemis' case, they don't literally turn them into a Constellation, but rather make a constellation in their name. Or place their spirit onto it. I dunno.
 
@Matt

In The Dark Prophecy (second Apollo book), Apollo threatens to turn Leo into a constellation once he got his powers back.
 
Very well.

I need to finish Percy Jackson and the Greek Gods. I wonder how he'll describe Zeus vs Typhon. Depending on how it is upgrades might arise...
 
@Matt

If I recall correctly, Typhon stomped the Olympians at first, including Zeus, taking direct hits from the Master Bolt with ease. Typhon then tore out Zeus's tendons to prevent him from interfering.

Afterwards, Hermes and Aegipan (a satyr) managed to make Typhon fall asleep and steal back Zeus's tendons, after which they drugged Typhon and threw Mt. Etna on top of him.
 
@Reppuzan

Yeah, which is generally accurate to Mythology, but Hesiod also describes Typhon literally reaching into the skies and plucking the constellations, and trashing them about.

I wonder if this is maintained in the PJ Description.
 
@Matt

I don't recall that, but it's been a while since I've read Percy Jackson's Greek Gods, so I might be wrong.
 
Conclusion:

Olympian Gods: Moon Level, Big Three Gods Higher. Class T Lifting Strength, Mountain Level Striking Strength.

Greek/Roman Big Three/Powerful Demigods: Island Level, Class E Lifting Strength

Egyptian Magicians: Island Level

Magnus Chase: Building Class Striking Strength probably?
 
I am fine with 6-A to possibly 5-C for the Olympian Gods, since creating constellations is probably some kind of reality warping. But Island level for the Demigods ? If we only base this on the lifting the atmosphere feat, then no. No Demigod that lifted the atmosphere has ever shown that kind of physical strength again (like Annabeth) and its probably based on will, not on real physical strength (Just like the form of the sun depends on your world view).
 
If I remember correctly the Titans didnt had their full power at that time, just like Kronos. Percy didnt fought Hades in combat, he killed Hades army in seconds and caught hades by suprise (He only threatend him with his sword), with the curse of achilles. And when he fought Ares, Ares was under Kronos control and didnt use his full strength.
 
Percy states that once Kronos got rid of Luke's body, he'd make Typhon look like a playground bully (or something along those lines). The Titans were nowhere near their full power.
 
Jucaslucas said:
Percy states that once Kronos got rid of Luke's body, he'd make Typhon look like a playground bully (or something along those lines). The Titans were nowhere near their full power.
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Yes, but this does still scale Percy at his best, he was island level because lifting the sky almost killed him before he got the curse. When he got the curse of achilles, he one shotted hades physical form and fought titans with ease.

I see no problem with Island Level demigods I mean, he has town and city level feats casually, it isnt a stretch to assume he 6-C I think the key would probably be

At Least 7-C, Likely 7-B (First few books)| 6-C | At Least 6-C with Curse of Achilles, Likely higher (One shotted hades and titans)

For Olympian Gods At Least 5-C, possibly Higher

For Big Three At Least 5-C, Likely Much Higher (for constellation feats)

Also, @Meoso's Not really. If I remember correctly, Percy pointed his sword at hades after the curse, hades said something like "lets not get hasty here" and one shotted him Caught off guard? No. He was aware percy was pointing a sword at his face and he fought Typhoon for a period of time

I dont see an issue here, I think at this point we are arguing character semantics You can quote me though on the hades thing and either prove or disprove it.
 
I mostly agree with KinkiestSins. However, I have a few things to point out.

The 7-C and 7-B feats are not in the first few books. I do recall he took hits from Ares in the Lighting Thief though, which idk how strong. He wounded Typhon IIRC and is stronger than Hephaestus and Dionysus. (Continued fighting when the two were defeated)
 
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
I mostly agree with KinkiestSins. However, I have a few things to point out.

The 7-C and 7-B feats are not in the first few books. I do recall he took hits from Ares in the Lighting Thief though, which is Mountain Level.
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If I recall Ares Feat, Book 1 Mountain Level Mt St Helens Eruption, Book 4 City Level Hubbarb Glacier, Son of Neptune (forgot what book number this was tbh) Town Level,

These were all casual/weakened feats Heck, he didnt even intend the mt saint helens eruption, so it should be higher.

To all naysayers. His best showing of strength at this point was the atmosphere lifting feat, which if you think it is more symbolic then it is literal I have two simple things to point out to you.

1. The world of percy jackson is still close to our world with modern science, and has real world locations (with fictional ones as well obviously). It has guns, nuclear weapons etc.

2. The Feat was his upmost limit, Annabeth was basically comatose when she held it for a few good seconds, percy held it for a few minutes.

I am also fine with an At Most 6-C for percy without curse and at least 6-C with it.

Edit: I wouldnt mind scaling percy jackson to myths or vice versa, but I think book feats should take extreme precedence. Since some myths in the books are kinda shaped to be different
 
Anyway, Typhon has feet the size of the Yankee Stadium, which is 46 452 m^2 large. The average human foot is about 88 cm^2 (scaling from the average human hand since I can't find the exact value). The average human height is 1.757 metres. Using the calculation method here his speed is around Mach 23 829, or Sub-Relativistic. His weight would be roughly 1.1e+20 kilograms. The weight itself puts Typhon at Moon Level.

I do recall he has blisters the size of buildings, but I can't find the average blitser size and I couldn't scale with my own body because I don't have one.
 
@KinkiestSins

The only reason why Percy is able to even harm the Gods is because of his Celestial Bronze sword. In addition, I still count it as a moment of PIS, since Hades is more than powerful enough to kill Percy with a snap of his fingers and Kronos is wary of fighting Hades.

As for his fight with Hyperion, he constantly exploited the latter's weakness to being doused long enough for Grover and the nature spirits to seal him rather than outright beating him. Kronos also beat Percy in their battle while he was using Luke Castellan as a host rather than his godly form.

@Spino

Typhon is depicted as a mass of storm clouds in the Riordanverse. I don't think we can use that method.
 
@Cal

I suppose, I forgot about his entry in Greek Gods. But is the method still legitimate for this scenario?
 
The atmosphere feat is problematic, since none of the mortal characters who lifted the sky has ever shown this kind of strength agai, like Annabeth. So I guess the atmosphere feat is an outliner or works only on this specific situation or is linked to will.

And without this feat Percy and possibly other powerful demigods have Mountain level feats at best. When Percy fought Ares or Hades, they werent even near at full power. The gods at full power are several meters high and can throw mountains at best. Percy just beat them in terms of fighting skills, so lets say: Mountain level for powerful Demigods (scaled to Percys Vulcanic eruption feat).

For the the Olympians: At least High 6-A, Likely 5-C (Possibly much higher for the big three).
 
"Fighting Skills: Percy is a naturally talented and expert swordsman, capable of holding his own against and even defeating larger, more experienced, and more powerful opponents, including gods like Ares and Hades and Titans like Hyperion and Kronos (although Kronos was at a weakened state) as well as monsters. In The Sea of Monsters, even when Percy had only trained for a year at the time, was already regarded by other campers to be better than any other camper in Camp Half-Blood at swordplay, except maybe for Luke."
 
@Meosos

I'd rather not copy-paste off the Riordan wiki.

Considering the fact that the profiles are supposed to rate the characters at their best, low-balling characters who have bare minimum constellation feats is still more than strange to me.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Meosos
I'd rather not copy-paste off the Riordan wiki.

Considering the fact that the profiles are supposed to rate the characters at their best, low-balling characters who have bare minimum constellation feats is still more than strange to me.
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Ok then. Can we perform the upgrades for the gods then ?
 
Ok then. Can we perform the upgrades for the gods then ?

For the big gods I think it is fine We are at an impasse for the demigods But ask Matthew, Reppuzan or Cal their thoughts before we open pages.

I think we can all agree on the big gods. I am also fine with 5-B big three scaling from Saturn, but I lean more to At Least 5-C Big Three.

The Percy Jackson series is a big book series, we have twelveish books to work with last I counted, we will be here a while describing and analyzing feats Also, demigods such as percy have casual town to mountain level feats, island level at most percy doesnt seem a big stretch.

And someone said the big three children have 6-A feats/statements. Cant validate this claim, I too am behind. If there is another tier six feat in any of the books, we can also use that for scaling. For the demigods, I mean.

I could read all the books and make a massive blog post about it, but honestly it looks like most important things have been rattled off.
 
@Kinkiest

Out of curiosity, how did that user describe the alleged 6-A feats by Big Three Demigods? Is there a book it pertains to?
 
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